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| Hi, I've written a minimal example to access an ftp server (like FileZilla). First, let's have a look at the code snippet: -- START with Ada.Text_IO; with Ada.Streams; with GNAT.Sockets; use GNAT.Sockets; use type Ada.Streams.Stream_Element_Count; procedure Test is Client: Socket_Type; Address: Sock_Addr_Type; Channel: Stream_Access; Data : Ada.Streams.Stream_Element_Array (1 .. 1); Offset : Ada.Streams.Stream_Element_Count; begin Initialize; Create_Socket(Client); Address.Addr := Inet_Addr("127.0.0.1"); Address.Port := 21; Connect_Socket (Client,Address); Channel := Stream(Client); loop -- reads in the welcome message Ada.Streams.Read (Channel.all, Data(1..1), Offset); exit when Offset = 0; -- alternative: exit when Offset /= Data'Last for I in 1 .. Offset loop Ada.Text_IO.Put (Character'Val (Data (I))); end loop; end loop; end Test; -- END The problem is, that Ada.Streams.Read is blocking, if the end of the stream is reached. I found many examples, that outline, that the variable Offset will be 0, if no further elements are on the stream. But this seems not to be the case, unfortunately. For a ftp server/client situation, each command is terminate by <CRLF>, so I enhanced the exit condition to: loop Ada.Streams.Read (Channel.all, Data(1..2), Offset); exit when (Character'Val (Data(1)) = ASCII.CR and Character'Val (Data(2)) = ASCII.LF); -- code omitted end loop; Of course, the Stream_Element_Array is enhanced to (1..2). This approach works very well, but some ftp commands send a messages over several lines. I do not know in advance, how many lines I should read in. Subsequently, Ada.Streams.Read has to be called in a loop, which will eventually block, again. How can I query the stream, if new elements are ready to read? Many thanks in advance, Dennis |
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| On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:24:43 +0200, Dennis Hoppe wrote: > This approach works very well, but some ftp commands send a messages > over several lines. I do not know in advance, how many lines I should > read in. Subsequently, Ada.Streams.Read has to be called in a loop, > which will eventually block, again. > > How can I query the stream, if new elements are ready to read? You have to implement the application layer protocol above the stream. Stream is a flow of stream elements, nothing more. If you have a record-oriented layer above it, that segments the stream into records, then you define a procedure to receive one record according to the definition of. For instance, a sequence of stream elements until CR/LF: procedure Read_Record ( Channel : in out Socket_Type; Buffer : in out Stream_Element_Array; Last : out Stream_Element_Offset ) is -- Reads the stream until CR/LF filling Buffer. Last is the index of -- of the last element of the packet. It is Buffer'First - 1 when -- the record body is empty. Index : Stream_Element_Offset; Has_CR : Boolean := False; begin while Index in Buffer'Range loop Read (Channel, Buffer (Index)); if Has_CR and then Storage_Element'Pos (Buffer (Index) = Character'Pos (LF) then Last := Index - 2; return; else Has_CR := Storage_Element'Pos (Buffer (Index) = Character'Pos (CR); end if; end loop; raise Data_Overrun_Error; -- Too large packet end Read_Record; > How can I query the stream, if new elements are ready to read? You need not, because record-oriented protocols let you know either the record size in advance or else provide a way to determine the record end. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de |
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| On Aug 8, 6:24 am, Dennis Hoppe <dennis.ho...@hoppinet.de> wrote: > Hi, > > I've written a minimal example to access an ftp server (like FileZilla). > First, let's have a look at the code snippet: > > -- START > with Ada.Text_IO; > with Ada.Streams; > with GNAT.Sockets; use GNAT.Sockets; > use type Ada.Streams.Stream_Element_Count; > > procedure Test is > Client: Socket_Type; > Address: Sock_Addr_Type; > Channel: Stream_Access; > Data : Ada.Streams.Stream_Element_Array (1 .. 1); > Offset : Ada.Streams.Stream_Element_Count; > > begin > Initialize; > Create_Socket(Client); > Address.Addr := Inet_Addr("127.0.0.1"); > Address.Port := 21; > Connect_Socket (Client,Address); > Channel := Stream(Client); > > loop -- reads in the welcome message > Ada.Streams.Read (Channel.all, Data(1..1), Offset); > exit when Offset = 0; > -- alternative: exit when Offset /= Data'Last > for I in 1 .. Offset loop > Ada.Text_IO.Put (Character'Val (Data (I))); > end loop; > end loop; > end Test; > -- END > > The problem is, that Ada.Streams.Read is blocking, if the end of the > stream is reached. I found many examples, that outline, that the > variable Offset will be 0, if no further elements are on the stream. > But this seems not to be the case, unfortunately. > > For a ftp server/client situation, each command is terminate by <CRLF>, > so I enhanced the exit condition to: > > loop > Ada.Streams.Read (Channel.all, Data(1..2), Offset); > exit when (Character'Val (Data(1)) = ASCII.CR and Character'Val > (Data(2)) = ASCII.LF); > -- code omitted > end loop; > > Of course, the Stream_Element_Array is enhanced to (1..2). > > This approach works very well, but some ftp commands send a messages > over several lines. I do not know in advance, how many lines I should > read in. Subsequently, Ada.Streams.Read has to be called in a loop, > which will eventually block, again. > > How can I query the stream, if new elements are ready to read? I'm not familiar with GNAT.Sockets, but looking at the spec it appears that there are a couple routines that might help: Control_Socket which lets you specify non-blocking I/O, and Check_Selector which I think can be used to query whether data is available, if you give it a Timeout of zero. Anyway, I haven't tried anything and I have no idea whether it's appropriate for your problem, but it seems like it might help. If not, my apologies. -- Adam |
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| Hi Dmitri, thank you for your reply, but it does not solve my problem. You just encapsulate the challenge in a nicer way. The application stops at runtime while invoking Ada.Streams.Read to often, again. I corrected your snippet to be compatible with my test-framework. with Ada.Text_IO; with Ada.Streams; use Ada.Streams; with GNAT.Sockets; use GNAT.Sockets; use type Ada.Streams.Stream_Element_Count; with System.Storage_Elements; use System.Storage_Elements; procedure Test is Client: Socket_Type; Address: Sock_Addr_Type; Channel: Stream_Access; Data : Ada.Streams.Stream_Element_Array (1 .. 2); Offset : Ada.Streams.Stream_Element_Count := 1; procedure Read_Record ( Channel : in out Stream_Access; Buffer : in out Stream_Element_Array; Last : out Stream_Element_Offset) is Index : Stream_Element_Offset := 1; Has_CR : Boolean := False; begin while Index in Buffer'Range loop Ada.Streams.Read (Channel.all, Buffer, Index); if Has_CR and then Stream_Element'Pos (Buffer (Index)) = Character'Pos (ASCII.LF) then Last := Index - 2; return; else Has_CR := Stream_Element'Pos (Buffer (Index)) = Character'Pos (ASCII.CR); end if; end loop; raise Constraint_Error; -- Too large packet end Read_Record; begin Initialize; Create_Socket(Client); Address.Addr := Inet_Addr("127.0.0.1"); Address.Port := 21; Connect_Socket (Client, Address); Channel := Stream (Client); Read_Record (Channel, Data, Offset); for I in 1 .. Offset loop Ada.Text_IO.Put (Character'Val (Data(I))); end loop; end Test; The Ada specification mentions the following: "The Read operation transfers stream elements from the specified stream to fill the array Item. Elements are transferred until Item'Length elements have been transferred, or until the end of the stream is reached. If any elements are transferred, the index of the last stream element transferred is returned in Last. Otherwise, Item'First - 1 is returned in Last. Last is less than Item'Last only if the end of the stream is reached." (<http://www.adaic.org/standards/05aarm/html/AA-13-13-1.html>) Actually, some invocation of Ada.Streams.Read (Channel.all, Buffer, Index) should lead to Index < Buffer'Last if the end of the stream is reached. This is never the case, because "read" is blocking, if not all elements in Buffer could be filled up. If Buffer is Buffer(1..1), Index went never to 0, for example. I am now able to read line per line sent by the ftp server, but if I only once invoke my read method to often, the whole program hangs up due to the blocking behavior of Ada.Stream.Read. Best regards, Dennis |
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| Hi Adam, Adam Beneschan wrote: > I'm not familiar with GNAT.Sockets, but looking at the spec it appears > that there are a couple routines that might help: Control_Socket which > lets you specify non-blocking I/O, and Check_Selector which I think > can be used to query whether data is available, if you give it a > Timeout of zero. Anyway, I haven't tried anything and I have no idea > whether it's appropriate for your problem, but it seems like it might > help. If not, my apologies. > > -- Adam I tried to implement your idea: with Ada.Text_IO; with Ada.Streams; use Ada.Streams; with GNAT.Sockets; use GNAT.Sockets; use type Ada.Streams.Stream_Element_Count; procedure Test is Client: Socket_Type; Address: Sock_Addr_Type; Channel: Stream_Access; Data : Ada.Streams.Stream_Element_Array (1 .. 256); Offset : Ada.Streams.Stream_Element_Count := 1; Request : Request_Type; begin Initialize; Create_Socket(Client); Address.Addr := Inet_Addr("127.0.0.1"); Address.Port := 21; Connect_Socket (Client, Address); Request := (Name => Non_Blocking_IO, Enabled => True); Control_Socket (Client, Request); -- make socket I/O non-blocking Channel := Stream (Client); declare Message : String (1 .. 256); begin String'Read (Channel, Message); Ada.Text_IO.Put_Line (Message); end; end Test; The code blocks now in line Control_Socket (Client, Request); -- make socket I/O non-blocking The application crashes with: Segmentation fault. *shrugging* Maybe Create_Selector is the way to go... Best regards, Dennis |
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| On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:00:44 +0200, Dennis Hoppe wrote: > Actually, some invocation of Ada.Streams.Read (Channel.all, Buffer, > Index) should lead to > > Index < Buffer'Last > > if the end of the stream is reached. You never reach the end of a TCP/IP stream unless the client closes the socket, which is usually indicates an error. The point is that you should never care about the stream end. > I am now able to read line per line sent by the ftp server, but if > I only once invoke my read method to often, the whole program hangs up > due to the blocking behavior of Ada.Stream.Read. No, it does because you incorrectly implement the protocol. Typically, you send a request to the server and it answers with a chain of records. The number and the content of the records is determined by the protocol. So you can always know what to expect. Pseudo-code looks like -- Processing a request send request loop read one record interpret the content of exit when no records should follow end loop -- Ready to issue another request ... You have mentioned FTP. There is a clear definition of how a FTP server response ends: "The client can identify the last line of the response as follows: it begins with three ASCII digits and a space; previous lines do not. The three digits form a code. Codes between 100 and 199 indicate marks; codes between 200 and 399 indicate acceptance; codes between 400 and 599 indicate rejection." -- http://cr.yp.to/ftp/request.html If you correctly implement the protocol your application will never block unless the server is not busy. And you have to read out all response otherwise the server will be block. So both parties know the states of each other. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de |
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| Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > You never reach the end of a TCP/IP stream unless the client closes the > socket, which is usually indicates an error. > > The point is that you should never care about the stream end. Seems, that I am not as familiar with streams as I should ![]() > You have mentioned FTP. There is a clear definition of how a FTP server > response ends: > > "The client can identify the last line of the response as follows: it > begins with three ASCII digits and a space; previous lines do not. The > three digits form a code. Codes between 100 and 199 indicate marks; codes > between 200 and 399 indicate acceptance; codes between 400 and 599 indicate > rejection." > -- http://cr.yp.to/ftp/request.html > > If you correctly implement the protocol your application will never block > unless the server is not busy. And you have to read out all response > otherwise the server will be block. So both parties know the states of each > other. Yeah, I am used to the status codes, but I am struggeling with the welcome message from ftp servers :-) FileZilla send three or four lines of information, all with status code 220. By means of your weblink (cr.yp.to - hehe), I saw the following: 150-This is the first line of a mark 123-This line does not end the mark; note the hyphen 150 This line ends the mark 226-This is the first line of the second response 226 This line does not end the response; note the leading space 226 This is the last line of the response, using code 226 This solves already the problem, because indeed the series of consecutive commands is finished, if three digits were followed by a blank. Each line of the welcome message begins with 220- and only the last one with 220_ (blank). Ok, I will never have a blocking read call in the future ;-) Thank you very much, you made my day! Best regards, Dennis |
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| On 8 Sie, 20:51, "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mail...@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote: > You never reach the end of a TCP/IP stream unless the client closes the > socket, which is usually indicates an error. This is not true. There are lots of protocols that use the end-of- stream as an indicator of the end of request group. In such protocols the client is free to issue new requests whenever he likes and the server will dutifully *wait* for each of them. Telnet is one such protocol. HTTP is another (client can ask for the page and its dependent files like images via a single connection). CORBA (and virtually every other RPC-like middleware) uses it for handling many RPC requests from a single client. And so on - the list is endless. > The point is that you should never care about the stream end. The point is that end of stream indicates that the client is not interested in interaction anymore. This is a valid protocol state. This is different from the client's perspective, but I can imagine protocols where the server can respond with potentially endless answer, not necessarily continuous in time (online stock price updates?), and finish after a timeout or some other even that is outside of the client's control. Again, end of stream is a valid protocol state. > If you correctly implement the protocol your application will never block Your application can also block if the other party blocks in the middle of responding. You cannot fully control it. -- Maciej Sobczak * www.msobczak.com * www.inspirel.com |
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| Check the source files for the "Ada Terminal Emulator - version 2.3" http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ross...Distribution_1 Binaries and Source can be found there. Since, both TELNET and FTP protocols are related you should be able to find out how they goyt around the blocking concept. Or they may even created a query routine that you might be able to adopt for your program. Note: In the emulator the package uses it own Sockets packages which is just a renamed version of the GNAT.Sockets packages. In <g7hher$mtt$1@aioe.org>, Dennis Hoppe <dennis.hoppe@hoppinet.de> writes: >Hi, > >I've written a minimal example to access an ftp server (like FileZilla). >First, let's have a look at the code snippet: > >-- START >with Ada.Text_IO; >with Ada.Streams; >with GNAT.Sockets; use GNAT.Sockets; >use type Ada.Streams.Stream_Element_Count; > >procedure Test is > Client: Socket_Type; > Address: Sock_Addr_Type; > Channel: Stream_Access; > Data : Ada.Streams.Stream_Element_Array (1 .. 1); > Offset : Ada.Streams.Stream_Element_Count; > >begin > Initialize; > Create_Socket(Client); > Address.Addr := Inet_Addr("127.0.0.1"); > Address.Port := 21; > Connect_Socket (Client,Address); > Channel := Stream(Client); > > loop -- reads in the welcome message > Ada.Streams.Read (Channel.all, Data(1..1), Offset); > exit when Offset = 0; > -- alternative: exit when Offset /= Data'Last > for I in 1 .. Offset loop > Ada.Text_IO.Put (Character'Val (Data (I))); > end loop; > end loop; >end Test; >-- END > >The problem is, that Ada.Streams.Read is blocking, if the end of the >stream is reached. I found many examples, that outline, that the >variable Offset will be 0, if no further elements are on the stream. >But this seems not to be the case, unfortunately. > >For a ftp server/client situation, each command is terminate by <CRLF>, >so I enhanced the exit condition to: > >loop > Ada.Streams.Read (Channel.all, Data(1..2), Offset); > exit when (Character'Val (Data(1)) = ASCII.CR and Character'Val >(Data(2)) = ASCII.LF); > -- code omitted >end loop; > >Of course, the Stream_Element_Array is enhanced to (1..2). > >This approach works very well, but some ftp commands send a messages >over several lines. I do not know in advance, how many lines I should >read in. Subsequently, Ada.Streams.Read has to be called in a loop, >which will eventually block, again. > >How can I query the stream, if new elements are ready to read? > >Many thanks in advance, > Dennis |
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| On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 14:25:33 -0700 (PDT), Maciej Sobczak wrote: > On 8 Sie, 20:51, "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mail...@dmitry-kazakov.de> > wrote: > >> You never reach the end of a TCP/IP stream unless the client closes the >> socket, which is usually indicates an error. > > This is not true. There are lots of protocols that use the end-of- > stream as an indicator of the end of request group. I meant Ada stream associated with the socket. You cannot end it otherwise than by closing the socket, if at all. I didn't look into GNAT sockets, but it is well thinkable that it implementation never ever ends the stream and instead of that raises Socket_Error upon an I/O on a closed socket. > In such protocols > the client is free to issue new requests whenever he likes and the > server will dutifully *wait* for each of them. No, that is full-duplex communication, which technically is not client-server. But in this case too, end of stream is never used to bound a request or response. It would be wasting resources. Worse than that, it would make the protocol unusable for the cases where the connection cannot be dropped, like serial communications, CAN bus, etc. >> The point is that you should never care about the stream end. > > The point is that end of stream indicates that the client is not > interested in interaction anymore. This is a valid protocol state. (OP designed a client) > This is different from the client's perspective, but I can imagine > protocols where the server can respond with potentially endless > answer, not necessarily continuous in time (online stock price > updates?), and finish after a timeout or some other even that is > outside of the client's control. Again, end of stream is a valid > protocol state. Surely, the network protocol for data exchange I designed for a middleware has exactly this design. Many other protocols used in automotive industry are of full-duplex asynchronous nature. But end of stream is never used there, otherwise than to indicate broken connection. >> If you correctly implement the protocol your application will never block > > Your application can also block if the other party blocks in the > middle of responding. You cannot fully control it. Yes, I wrote "unless server is busy." This is not blocking. Compare it with the way Ada defines a potentially blocking operation. A non-blocking operation is not meant instant, it is time-bounded. Delays caused by network latencies, server load etc semantically are not lookups. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de |
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