How to get named destinations to work in PDFs - Adobe Framemaker

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    OK, well, I've worked on this yesterday and today - still to no avail. Whether I manually create the named destinations or not, the hypertext link continues to open the targed PDF but fails to jump to the specified named destination. I've tried re-creating the named destinations and eliminating the spaces. I've selected the "Create Named Destinations" option in the create PDF setup dialogs.

    I just don't know what to do to get the gotolinks to jump to their targets. I thought perhaps the selection of "Create Named Destinations" was overriding the manually specified named destinations, but again that worked the same way - opens the right PDF but fails to jump to the target within that document.

    Does anyone have this working succesfully in a PDF-to-PDF scenario?

    Virginia

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    The gotolink marker should have a file.fm:dest format; if you want it to work reliably, it cannot point to a book file or a PDF, so that FrameMaker resolves it correctly when printing to PS. If the target book is converted to a single PDF, the target book has to be open in FrameMaker when you print the other file to .ps (or Save as PDF).

    Alternatively, the variable prefix added by FrameMaker can be handled as part of the distilling, using a function in the FrameMaker-to-Acrobat TimeSavers add-on, see <http://www.microtype.com/ImprovePDF.html#12> for more details and sample files.


    Shlomo Perets

    MicroType, <http://www.microtype.com>
    Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat

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    Thank you Shlomo,

    I've been reading your MicroType site too - thank you for your response, but it does not seem to help me yet.

    In the MicroType link you provided, it reads: "If your PDF file is placed on a web site, you can have named destinations in it and use links (in web pages or e-mail messages) which specify the destination ("named view") in which to open the PDF."

    * * My PDFs are not placed on a web site - they are included as part of our product installation instead - is that perhaps the source of the problem?

    According to my interpretation of instructions, I created this Hypertext link from the source document:

    gotolink Building BizViews Short Version.fm:HowtoBuildBizDocuments

    * * Notice the name of the FrameMaker file includes spaces - is that the problem perhaps?

    Then, with both books open, I created a PDF of the source document using the Save as PDF command from the FrameMaker menu. I left the "Create Named Destinations for Paragraphs" option selected.

    After the PDF is created, I opened it and clicked that link. The error reads:

    The specified file Building BizViews Short Version.pdf does not exist.

    According to this error message, it seems that the gotolink requires a PDF document to open. Both PDFs are in the same directory, so they should be able to find each other.

    I'm using FrameMaker 7.2 all patched up it that information helps at all. If you have time, please provide some more hints for me to work on and I'll keep reading too.

    Thank you,

    Virginia

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    Virginia,

    Have you tried it yet without any spaces in the (new)link names?

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    Spaces in file names and destination names definitely create various problems, and will also prevent FM from validating the marker. -- Shlomo

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    Yes, I just tried that - the target FrameMaker file is renamed to remove the spaces and I removed and then re-defined the named destination in that target document to ensure there were no spaces in that destination name.

    Then, I updatd the gotolink like this:

    gotolink BuildingBizViewsShortVersion.fm:BuildBizDocs

    And leaving both books open, I made them into PDFs again. When I open the source document and click the link, this error appears:

    The specified file BuildingBizViewsShortVersion.pdf does not exist.

    I am beginning to wonder if this feature works. If so, hopefully someone will be able to tell me how eventually.

    Thank you everyone for your gracious and kind help, as always ...

    Virginia

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    In my experience, this feature is fully-functional when used properly.

    If FrameMaker looks for the filename.pdf rather than to bookname.pdf, it indicates that the bookname.book is not open in FrameMaker when printing the other book to PS. Also: if you did not rename the file through the book, remove the file from the book and add it again.

    To eliminate yet another source of problems, I recommend using printing to .PS and distilling, rather than using "Save as PDF".


    Shlomo Perets

    MicroType, <http://www.microtype.com>
    Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat

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    Yes, as I wrote, I suspect it's something I'm doing incorrectly. Yes, I removed the file, renamed it, and then added it back into the book.

    When I print the source file - the one containing the hyperlink to a named destination - to .ps and then try to distill it with Acrobat Distiller 6.0, the PDF creation fails.

    This is the content of the log file:

    %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: FmDC ]%%

    Stack:
    6200
    200
    -mark-
    /CropBox
    -mark-

    %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%
    %%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %%

    So, I'm going to get the Acrobat 7.0 evaluation install to see if that will help. As always, thank you and all advice is appreciated.

    Virginia

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    The same error occurs in Acrobat 7.0. Virginia

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    Virginia,
    1) I don't believe that anyone has clarified the issue of indexing a set of documents (creating an index.pdx file). This indexing can still be done w/Acrobat Pro 7.0, but it's not really needed now because Acrobat offers Full Text Search for all files in a location (In Acrobat Pro or Reader, it's Edit>Search, or click the down arrow on the Find button and choose Open Full Acrobat/Reader Search). Thus, users can fully search all PDFs in a document set at a given location (no index file is needed).

    I think I read that if you have a <really, really huge> number of documents, the .pdx file can help speed the search. To create the index file, choose Advanced > Catalog, as Arnis mentioned. But unless you have a gigantic set of books, this step is no longer needed.

    2) We, too have had problems making named destinations work properly. Our goal was to have an interface element (such as a Help button) in a Web application or other application, open a PDF to a particular section in a document. We were successful in making them work when the PDFs were on a Web server and accessed via a URL (as Rick stated). Carl Young (Acrobat whiz) said that a UNC should also work.

    3) We can also get named destinations to work PDF-to-PDF, by following these steps:
    a. FileA (destination file): In the destination heading, added a named destination marker (Special > Hypertext > Specify Named Destination).
    b. FileB (link file): Created hypertext marker as follows: Special > Hypertext > Jump to Named Destination. The marker content was as follows: gotolink filename.fm:destinationname
    c. Saved both files, then created PDFs from both files, taking care to use the same file name for the destination PDF as was used for the destination .fm file.

    Note that no book files were involved, no spaces existed in file names or destination names, and the destination markers were manually added (not added by Frame).

    4) We never got to making this work in book files - the prefixes that Arnis says "work themselves out," do so only partially. The destination specified in the link is M8.newlink.destname, while the destination created in the dest. file (that is part of a book) is M2.8.newlink.destname. What is being done wrong???

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