PMS Color Change Question - Adobe illustrator

This is a discussion on PMS Color Change Question - Adobe illustrator ; I need to change the PMS color "Pantone Reflex Blue C" to "Pantone Reflex Blue 2X CVC" I'm sure its an easy fix, but I cannot for the life of me figure it out. Thanks in advance for any help. ...

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    I need to change the PMS color "Pantone Reflex Blue C" to "Pantone Reflex Blue 2X CVC"

    I'm sure its an easy fix, but I cannot for the life of me figure it out.

    Thanks in advance for any help.

    Jeremy

    P.S. I am using Illustrator 10.0 on Windows XP Pro

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    Hey, Jeremy.

    Yep, easy: open the Swatches palette (Window>Swatches), double-click the swatch you want to edit and, well, edit its contents

    Note: you can do it if the swatch is in your open document, but you can't double-click and edit swatches in swatch libraries (unless you open the document that contains the library, but that's another story). But if you click on a swatch in a library palette, it's automatically copied to your current document and you can edit it through the Swatches palette.

    Jeez... I hope it all makes sense

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    What exactly are you trying to do? Just change the name? Here is the
    results of searching Pantone for your color Pantone Reflex Blue 2X CVC:

    There are no results for the code and criteria entered.

    a.. PANTONE MATCHING SYSTEM : Numbered colors consist of three or four
    digits followed by a substrate extension of either a C, an M or a U. The
    substrate letter must be entered.
    b.. Fashion and Home/paints + interiors: Proper format consists of two
    digits, a hyphen, then four digits followed by a substrate extension of
    either a TC or TPX.
    c.. Plastics: The proper numbering format is as follows: Q020-6-4
    d.. European: European colors are followed by an EC suffix.
    e.. Hexachrome: Hexachrome colors are followed by an HC suffix.



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    CVC is an old naming convention, for "computer video - coated". Pantone dropped the use of the "CV" about 2002, but it will still appear in documents and swatch libraries that originated before that date. "2X" means two coats. So "Pantone Reflex Blue 2X CVC" is how two coats of Pantone Reflex Blue on coated paper would be represented in an older swatch library. "Pantone Reflex Blue 2X C" is how that same result would be represented in a newer swatch library.

    Jeremy, I agree with Cliff that we need more information about what your goals are. You say:

    I need to change the PMS color "Pantone Reflex Blue C" to "Pantone Reflex
    Blue 2X CVC"




    But that could be interpreted in many ways, including:

    I need to change the name of the swatch that says "Pantone Reflex Blue C" to say "Pantone Reflex Blue 2X CVC"

    I need to change the process color values of the swatch named "Pantone Reflex Blue C" to be the process color values of the swatch named "Pantone Reflex Blue 2X CVC" in an older library

    I have two swatches in my document, one for "Pantone Reflex Blue C" and one for "Pantone Reflex Blue 2X CVC", and I need to make all the colors in my file that use the first swatch use the second one instead.

    The first two would be done using the Swatch Options dialog. The third would be done using the Merge Swatches command, selecting first the swatch you want to keep and then shift-selecting the one you want to get rid of.

    There are other interpretations, such as wanting to change the actual Pantone library.

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    Thanks for the info. Sorry for the vague question.

    More specifically:

    I have to recreate a client's logo. The old color is "Pantone Reflex Blue 2X CVC".

    However, I can only seem to find on my version of Illustrator is "Pantone Reflex Blue C".

    I understand from Teri's comment that Adobe dropped the CVC desgination.

    I also get that I need to "double" the layers of this color to get the desired effect.

    Where exactly is the "Swatch Options Dialog"?

    Thanks again for all of you help.

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    Jeremy,

    With 10, which was born with the Pantone CVCs, you should be able to:

    1. Select one fill/stroke (whichever is relevant) with Pantone Reflex Blue C,
    2. Select>Same>Whichever,
    3. Pick the Pantone Reflex Blue 2X CVC in Window>Swatch Libraries>Pantone Coated; it is at the bottom of the library.

    If not, you can define Pantone Reflex Blue 2X CVC as a swatch first and use that, or you can:

    3. Group,
    4. At the bottom of the Tools palette, select None instead of Color,
    5. Select an instance of Pantone Reflex Blue 2X CVC,
    6. Select one of the whichevers in the group,
    7. Select Color instead of None,
    8. Ungroup.

    No need to double things to use Pantone Reflex Blue 2X CVC.

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    Hi Jacob.

    Thanks for the note. I have looked (before and even now) through PMS coated library on my Illustrator 10 and can't find "Pantone Reflex Blue 2X CVC" or a similar variation of the phreasing.

    Could you let me know what PMS #s it is near?

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    Jeremy,

    Have you tried the long last solution suggested?

    I take it you get as far as Window>Swatch Libraries>Pantone Coated so you get the window shown; it is #24 from the very end. But it should turn up selected as soon as you have typed ref in the Find bar.

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    Jacob:

    I have been through every "blue" in the library "Pantone Solid Coated". The last PMS # on my chart is "8321". Does that jive with what is supposed to be there? Maybe my library is missing colors.

    Suffice it to say, There is no "Pantone Reflex Blue 2X CVC" or anything close to that.

    But I will also say that none of my colors have endings "CVC", just "C".

    Is there another way to accomplish my goal?

    Sorry for being a pain. Thanks again.

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    Illustrator 10 shipped with both the old and new Pantone libraries. (Note that it is not Adobe that made the name change, it was Pantone.)

    The newer libraries with the C and U suffixes are in the regular Swatches folder. The older libraries with the CVC and CVU suffixes are in the Presets>Pantone Libraries Pre-2000 folder.

    The naming really should not matter that much, though. The printer will use the same inks regardless of what naming conventions you use on the swatches.

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