anyone know what 'white wove' means?

this seems to be a generic term used by our printer for envelopes but i could not find any definition for it on the web and am just curious about how it originated and what it means exactly?

Rasat,

Wove is a basic type and finish in making paper. It has a smooth uncoated finish. White is a color.

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Neil

Can't give you all you want but "white wove" stands for any standard 20/24 Bond stock. I.E. standard #10 regular white envelopes are "white wove". I imagine the wove comes from the way the paper is made, but that is sheer speculation on my part.

Heather,

"white wove" stands for any standard 20/24 Bond stock.




Not quite true. It refers to the finish. Bond refers to the long fibers that are used to give it strength.

Neil

Neil is totally right, I shouldn't have used the word "bond" or given a weight. It just usually happens that when a standard white wove is ordered that's the case. It basically means it's not linen, not laid, not columns, not textured, not coated, not finished, etc. and so forth.

Heather,

It basically means it's not linen, not laid, not columns, not textured,
not coated, not finished, etc.




Well, it IS a specific finish type. What you're saying is that you're defining San Francisco as, "it's not New York, not Miami, not Phoenix, not Chicago, not Salt Lake..."

Neil

Neil, I think it's more like explaining to someone who doesn't know what a village is that it's not a town, not a city, not a metropolis, it's more basic.
Of course I posted all my general answers about the same time you were posting your very useful specific post, which I didn't see until afterwards. Your answer and links in number one are obviously the most specific and useful for the OP to review.

Heather,

it's more like explaining...




I certainly don't want to get hung up on semantics, but all you are saying what it is NOT. You have not said what it IS. For your "village" analogy, I would choose to explain it in a way that actually defines it; something like "a group of houses and associated buildings, larger than a hamlet and smaller than a town, situated in a rural area." Or, "a small municipality with limited corporate powers". I think you get the idea... <g>

So, moving on, yes, I think Pocket Pal would be an excellent start for the OP or anyone who'd like to know more about print production.

Neil

Hi everyone,

Wove actually IS a specific type of finish. Wove means it is debossed with a slight woven pattern, however the term when used in conjunction with "white" as in "white wove" means that the wove finish will be very minor. White wove also is code for "cheapy" and won't usually be as bright white as a finer stock. Paper coming off the fourdrinier will be slightly uneven, and applying a wove deboss helps even it out a bit. If you ask for smooth, expect to pay a premium over wove, as this requires more precision. Anything smooth will generally be brighter white as well.

Ryan,

You're right: "wove" is a specific finish to a sheet. But you've got wrong or misleading info after that.

A "wove" finish is characterized by the impressions of a wire or felt covered roll during the papermaking process -- while the sheet is still wet pulp and being formed at the mill. It is characterized by a uniform unlined surface with a soft smooth finish.

A "wove" sheet is NOT defined by debossing. Debossing a sheet would be a drum-applied texture, pattern, or design that depresses the surface of the sheet, applied after or at the end of the papermaking process; it is the reverse of embossing. It can also refer to type or design elements depressed into a sheet as part of a graphic design.

"White" is the color only of the sheet. It has nothing to do with the finish itself. You can have cream, ivory, blue, green, purple...etc., any color applied to a wove sheet during the papermaking process.

I doubt that papermakers such as Strathmore and Cranes would classify their "white wove" sheets as "cheap", particularly rag grades.

(For those who don't know the term, a fourdrinier is a paper machine on which sheets are formed on a moving wire. Water drains from the wire as the pulp is processed into paper.)

Neil