Re: Proper Names - Definition

This is a discussion on Re: Proper Names - Definition within the Adobe Typography forums in Adobe Tools category; Gosh Dominic, I don't know whether it's an illusion but there does seem to be an aggressive manner in your postings. Do my postings come over as aggressive? If so, I'm sorry. Mine should be read in a contemplative manner, preferably leaning back on the chair with a nice glass of wine and some chocky ........but as an attempt to sidestep the whole issue by labelling it a red herring. Well, shouldn't we be discussing the use of lower case for proper names? Whether I should have used the word 'most' or 'advocate' in those sentences concerned I think is ...

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Old 07-24-2008, 05:11 AM
Richard_Archer-Jones@adobeforums.com
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Gosh Dominic, I don't know whether it's an illusion but there does seem to be an aggressive manner in your postings. Do my postings come over as aggressive? If so, I'm sorry. Mine should be read in a contemplative manner, preferably leaning back on the chair with a nice glass of wine and some chocky

........but as an attempt to sidestep the whole issue by labelling it
a red herring.




Well, shouldn't we be discussing the use of lower case for proper names? Whether I should have used the word 'most' or 'advocate' in those sentences concerned I think is a side issue. Nevertheless I will repeat, I should have used the word 'advocate' in relation to the bad grammar issue but whether I should have used the word 'most' in the other issue I'm still not sure.

Now, let's trim this all down and get back to the main issue. How can a proper name have no capitals? I don't know why you are emphasizing 'my rules' in such a way. Art is a subjective subject is it not? How can it ever be discussed without your own personal preferences being the guide? I am simply stating my views on how to bend the rules for artistic license and how not to, and that I consider the use of lower case for proper names is going too far in bending the rules. I not only state that but I also give my reasons. The reasons are that you only have to bend the rules slightly for 'iPod' and 'InDesign', there is still some indication that those words are special, but for 'london' the rules are bent so far that they break. They break because what you are left with is no indication whatsoever of a proper name.

Put down the wine now, time for me to get aggressive and make a demand. Please will you comment on that above statement! Grrrrrrr.

Right, pick up the wine again.

The problem is that you are trying to rely on the rules of grammar to
condemn what you don't like but you're prepared to ditch those same rules
when you do like something.




Well, I don't think 'iPod' and 'InDesign' ditch the rules. They bend the rules, and that is the material difference. If they ditched the rules they'd have no capitals at all, e.g. 'london'.

Of course I bend the rules when I like something, that is what I understand as artistic licence. Remember this is not about following the rules to the letter, this about having boundaries, having a limit to rule bending. It's like a film maker who makes a film about a true event but actually tells lies under the guise of artistic liscence. That is also going too far, because you are breaking the rules, not just bending them.

Your decision not to use the spell checker or a dictionary or to proofread
your posts is deliberate, is it not?




Hey, my turn to get demanding again. Where have I stated that I deliberately did not use the spell checker. Where? Show me or detract that statement!

Sorry Dominic, I hope you're taking this in the light hearted manner it is meant.

Note: I do proof read my posts extensively, but proof reading will not necessarily find spelling mistakes.
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