Searching for original IBM APL\360 software

This is a discussion on Searching for original IBM APL\360 software within the APL forums in Programming Languages category; Hello, all APL enthusiasts: There is a lot of interest in "retro-computing" these days, and I am hoping to resurrect APL\360 running under DOS/360 or DOS/VS using the Hercules IBM mainframe emulator. I am hopeful that somewhere, someone may still have a machine-readable copy of the original IBM Program 360D-03.3.007 APL\360 for DOS/360, which was released by IBM as a TYPE III program in Aug. 1968, with no support and at no cost, without copyright or license. Also, we would like to find copies of any of the following IBM manuals, for these early versions of APL\360: APL/360 TYPE III ...

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Old 08-23-2008, 12:22 AM
Mark S Waterbury
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Default Searching for original IBM APL\360 software

Hello, all APL enthusiasts:

There is a lot of interest in "retro-computing" these days, and I am
hoping to resurrect APL\360 running under DOS/360 or DOS/VS using the
Hercules IBM mainframe emulator.

I am hopeful that somewhere, someone may still have a machine-readable
copy of the original IBM Program 360D-03.3.007 APL\360 for DOS/360,
which was released by IBM as a TYPE III program in Aug. 1968, with no
support and at no cost, without copyright or license.

Also, we would like to find copies of any of the following IBM manuals,
for these early versions of APL\360:

APL/360 TYPE III PROGRAM DOCUMENTATION REPORT 360D-03.3.007 AUG. 1969
APL/360 OS AND DOS GENERAL INFORMATION MANUAL, DEC. 1970 GH20-0850
APL/360 OS AND APL/360 DOS USER'S MANUAL, DEC. 1970 SH20-0906
APL/360 OS AND APL/360 DOS SYSTEM MANUAL, 1ST ED., JUN. 1971 LY20-0678
APL/360 DOS OPERATIONS MANUAL, SEP. 1969, H20-0685
APL/360 DOS SYSTEM GENERATION MANUAL, SEP. 1969, H20-0686
APL/360 DOS OPERATIONS AND INSTALLATION MANUAL,DEC. 1970 SH20-0938
APL/360 0S OPERATIONS AND INSTALLATION MANUAL, DEC. 1970 SH20-0890

Please ask around especially among your older, retired friends, to see
if anyone might still have a copy of any of these materials, so they can
be saved for posterity.

Thank you.

Mark S. Waterbury
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Old 08-23-2008, 11:29 PM
Al Kossow
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Default Re: Searching for original IBM APL\360 software

On Aug 22, 9:22 pm, Mark S Waterbury <mark.s.waterb...@att.net> wrote:

> Also, we would like to find copies of any of the following IBM manuals,
> for these early versions of APL\360:


Some of the documents you are looking for can be found at:
http://bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/apl/
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Old 08-24-2008, 11:53 AM
RHui000@shaw.ca
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Default Re: Searching for original IBM APL\360 software

Brian and Barry Silverman are known to have the APL\360 source code.
If you can find them perhaps you can get that source code. See:
http://keiapl.info/anec/#emulator

On Aug 22, 9:22 pm, Mark S Waterbury <mark.s.waterb...@att.net> wrote:
> Hello, all APL enthusiasts:
>
> There is a lot of interest in "retro-computing" these days, and I am
> hoping to resurrect APL\360 running under DOS/360 or DOS/VS using the
> Hercules IBM mainframe emulator.
>
> I am hopeful that somewhere, someone may still have a machine-readable
> copy of the original IBM Program 360D-03.3.007 APL\360 for DOS/360,
> which was released by IBM as a TYPE III program in Aug. 1968, with no
> support and at no cost, without copyright or license.
>
> Also, we would like to find copies of any of the following IBM manuals,
> for these early versions of APL\360:
>
> APL/360 TYPE III PROGRAM DOCUMENTATION REPORT 360D-03.3.007 AUG. 1969
> APL/360 OS AND DOS GENERAL INFORMATION MANUAL, DEC. 1970 GH20-0850
> APL/360 OS AND APL/360 DOS USER'S MANUAL, DEC. 1970 SH20-0906
> APL/360 OS AND APL/360 DOS SYSTEM MANUAL, 1ST ED., JUN. 1971 LY20-0678
> APL/360 DOS OPERATIONS MANUAL, SEP. 1969, H20-0685
> APL/360 DOS SYSTEM GENERATION MANUAL, SEP. 1969, H20-0686
> APL/360 DOS OPERATIONS AND INSTALLATION MANUAL,DEC. 1970 SH20-0938
> APL/360 0S OPERATIONS AND INSTALLATION MANUAL, DEC. 1970 SH20-0890
>
> Please ask around especially among your older, retired friends, to see
> if anyone might still have a copy of any of these materials, so they can
> be saved for posterity.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Mark S. Waterbury


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Old 08-24-2008, 09:29 PM
APL Enthusiast
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Default Re: Searching for original IBM APL\360 software

I asked Brian Silverman what ever happened to APL\360 on Java in 3/2001
(hoping the code was available) and his response was:

"no further progress. We got it pretty much working. Then we devoted
some energy to finding someone at IBM that would allow us to release it,
but never succeeded."

I tried to track down his email (hopefully correctly) and cc him on this
response.

RHui000@shaw.ca wrote:
> Brian and Barry Silverman are known to have the APL\360 source code.
> If you can find them perhaps you can get that source code. See:
> http://keiapl.info/anec/#emulator
>
> On Aug 22, 9:22 pm, Mark S Waterbury <mark.s.waterb...@att.net> wrote:
>> Hello, all APL enthusiasts:
>>
>> There is a lot of interest in "retro-computing" these days, and I am
>> hoping to resurrect APL\360 running under DOS/360 or DOS/VS using the
>> Hercules IBM mainframe emulator.
>>
>> I am hopeful that somewhere, someone may still have a machine-readable
>> copy of the original IBM Program 360D-03.3.007 APL\360 for DOS/360,
>> which was released by IBM as a TYPE III program in Aug. 1968, with no
>> support and at no cost, without copyright or license.
>>
>> Also, we would like to find copies of any of the following IBM manuals,
>> for these early versions of APL\360:
>>
>> APL/360 TYPE III PROGRAM DOCUMENTATION REPORT 360D-03.3.007 AUG. 1969
>> APL/360 OS AND DOS GENERAL INFORMATION MANUAL, DEC. 1970 GH20-0850
>> APL/360 OS AND APL/360 DOS USER'S MANUAL, DEC. 1970 SH20-0906
>> APL/360 OS AND APL/360 DOS SYSTEM MANUAL, 1ST ED., JUN. 1971 LY20-0678
>> APL/360 DOS OPERATIONS MANUAL, SEP. 1969, H20-0685
>> APL/360 DOS SYSTEM GENERATION MANUAL, SEP. 1969, H20-0686
>> APL/360 DOS OPERATIONS AND INSTALLATION MANUAL,DEC. 1970 SH20-0938
>> APL/360 0S OPERATIONS AND INSTALLATION MANUAL, DEC. 1970 SH20-0890
>>
>> Please ask around especially among your older, retired friends, to see
>> if anyone might still have a copy of any of these materials, so they can
>> be saved for posterity.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Mark S. Waterbury

>

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Old 08-24-2008, 09:32 PM
APL Enthusiast
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Default Re: Searching for original IBM APL\360 software

I asked Brian Silverman what ever happened to APL\360 on Java in 3/2001
(hoping the code was available) and his response was:

"no further progress. We got it pretty much working. Then we devoted
some energy to finding someone at IBM that would allow us to release it,
but never succeeded."

I tried to track down his email (hopefully correctly) and cc him on this
response.

RHui000@shaw.ca wrote:
> Brian and Barry Silverman are known to have the APL\360 source code.
> If you can find them perhaps you can get that source code. See:
> http://keiapl.info/anec/#emulator
>
> On Aug 22, 9:22 pm, Mark S Waterbury <mark.s.waterb...@att.net> wrote:
>> Hello, all APL enthusiasts:
>>
>> There is a lot of interest in "retro-computing" these days, and I am
>> hoping to resurrect APL\360 running under DOS/360 or DOS/VS using the
>> Hercules IBM mainframe emulator.
>>
>> I am hopeful that somewhere, someone may still have a machine-readable
>> copy of the original IBM Program 360D-03.3.007 APL\360 for DOS/360,
>> which was released by IBM as a TYPE III program in Aug. 1968, with no
>> support and at no cost, without copyright or license.
>>
>> Also, we would like to find copies of any of the following IBM manuals,
>> for these early versions of APL\360:
>>
>> APL/360 TYPE III PROGRAM DOCUMENTATION REPORT 360D-03.3.007 AUG. 1969
>> APL/360 OS AND DOS GENERAL INFORMATION MANUAL, DEC. 1970 GH20-0850
>> APL/360 OS AND APL/360 DOS USER'S MANUAL, DEC. 1970 SH20-0906
>> APL/360 OS AND APL/360 DOS SYSTEM MANUAL, 1ST ED., JUN. 1971 LY20-0678
>> APL/360 DOS OPERATIONS MANUAL, SEP. 1969, H20-0685
>> APL/360 DOS SYSTEM GENERATION MANUAL, SEP. 1969, H20-0686
>> APL/360 DOS OPERATIONS AND INSTALLATION MANUAL,DEC. 1970 SH20-0938
>> APL/360 0S OPERATIONS AND INSTALLATION MANUAL, DEC. 1970 SH20-0890
>>
>> Please ask around especially among your older, retired friends, to see
>> if anyone might still have a copy of any of these materials, so they can
>> be saved for posterity.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Mark S. Waterbury

>

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  #6  
Old 08-24-2008, 09:34 PM
Jeff
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Default Re: Searching for original IBM APL\360 software

I asked Brian Silverman what ever happened to APL\360 on Java in 3/2001
(hoping the code was available) and his response was:

"no further progress. We got it pretty much working. Then we devoted
some energy to finding someone at IBM that would allow us to release it,
but never succeeded."

I tried to track down his email (hopefully correctly) and cc him on this
response.

RHui000@shaw.ca wrote:
> Brian and Barry Silverman are known to have the APL\360 source code.
> If you can find them perhaps you can get that source code. See:
> http://keiapl.info/anec/#emulator
>
> On Aug 22, 9:22 pm, Mark S Waterbury <mark.s.waterb...@att.net> wrote:
>> Hello, all APL enthusiasts:
>>
>> There is a lot of interest in "retro-computing" these days, and I am
>> hoping to resurrect APL\360 running under DOS/360 or DOS/VS using the
>> Hercules IBM mainframe emulator.
>>
>> I am hopeful that somewhere, someone may still have a machine-readable
>> copy of the original IBM Program 360D-03.3.007 APL\360 for DOS/360,
>> which was released by IBM as a TYPE III program in Aug. 1968, with no
>> support and at no cost, without copyright or license.
>>
>> Also, we would like to find copies of any of the following IBM manuals,
>> for these early versions of APL\360:
>>
>> APL/360 TYPE III PROGRAM DOCUMENTATION REPORT 360D-03.3.007 AUG. 1969
>> APL/360 OS AND DOS GENERAL INFORMATION MANUAL, DEC. 1970 GH20-0850
>> APL/360 OS AND APL/360 DOS USER'S MANUAL, DEC. 1970 SH20-0906
>> APL/360 OS AND APL/360 DOS SYSTEM MANUAL, 1ST ED., JUN. 1971 LY20-0678
>> APL/360 DOS OPERATIONS MANUAL, SEP. 1969, H20-0685
>> APL/360 DOS SYSTEM GENERATION MANUAL, SEP. 1969, H20-0686
>> APL/360 DOS OPERATIONS AND INSTALLATION MANUAL,DEC. 1970 SH20-0938
>> APL/360 0S OPERATIONS AND INSTALLATION MANUAL, DEC. 1970 SH20-0890
>>
>> Please ask around especially among your older, retired friends, to see
>> if anyone might still have a copy of any of these materials, so they can
>> be saved for posterity.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Mark S. Waterbury

>

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  #7  
Old 08-26-2008, 04:01 PM
Mark S Waterbury
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Default Re: Searching for original IBM APL\360 software

Brilliant! Thank you, sir.

> Al Kossow wrote:
> On Aug 22, 9:22 pm, Mark S Waterbury <mark.s.waterb...@att.net> wrote:
>
>> Also, we would like to find copies of any of the following IBM manuals,
>> for these early versions of APL\360:

>
> Some of the documents you are looking for can be found at:
> http://bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/apl/

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