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    I have a client running Summer '87 code in a POS application. They
    are using IBM's old FDO product (Fixed Disk Organizer) as their menu
    system.

    Since I moved them out of the DOS environment and into Windows (98 SE)
    the FDO application will sometimes crash. This happens when they
    minimize the FDO application and do some processing under Windows and
    then restore the application. It's not a show stopper, but it is a
    PITA.

    What is a good replacement for the FDO menu system? I'm not a great
    Clipper programmer but I am able to maintain their code, so writing
    one from scratch would be an option although I'm thinking that a
    decent menu system should exist out there somewhere. A small memory
    footprint would be a plus. Any suggestions?

    Thanks,
    Scott

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    Scott,

    Have a look at Traybar, can be found at:

    http://www.nimation.nl/traybar/

    Lasse


    Scott Coffey wrote:
    > I have a client running Summer '87 code in a POS application. They
    > are using IBM's old FDO product (Fixed Disk Organizer) as their menu
    > system.
    >
    > Since I moved them out of the DOS environment and into Windows (98 SE)
    > the FDO application will sometimes crash. This happens when they
    > minimize the FDO application and do some processing under Windows and
    > then restore the application. It's not a show stopper, but it is a
    > PITA.
    >
    > What is a good replacement for the FDO menu system? I'm not a great
    > Clipper programmer but I am able to maintain their code, so writing
    > one from scratch would be an option although I'm thinking that a
    > decent menu system should exist out there somewhere. A small memory
    > footprint would be a plus. Any suggestions?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Scott



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    Scott,

    May be I missing something but what is wrong with Windows shortcuts?


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    On 12 Sep 2005 15:30:20 -0700, "E. Fridman" <pm771.am@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    >Scott,
    >
    >May be I missing something but what is wrong with Windows shortcuts?


    I guess you're missing something. ;-)

    I said I moved the application to the Windows OS (from a DOS
    environment). It's still a Clipper Summer '87 application that is
    menu driven. I need a replacement for the FDO menu system.

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    On 12 Sep 2005 14:00:33 -0700, LHSoft@gmail.com wrote:

    >Scott,
    >
    >Have a look at Traybar, can be found at:
    >
    >http://www.nimation.nl/traybar/
    >
    >Lasse



    OK, I guess I wasn't clear here. I moved the application to Windows
    as the host OS (from DRDOS as the host OS), but it is still a Clipper
    application running Summer '87 code in a DOS box under 98SE. What I
    need is a Clipper menu system... not a Windows menu system.

    Scott


    >Scott Coffey wrote:
    >> I have a client running Summer '87 code in a POS application. They
    >> are using IBM's old FDO product (Fixed Disk Organizer) as their menu
    >> system.
    >>
    >> Since I moved them out of the DOS environment and into Windows (98 SE)
    >> the FDO application will sometimes crash. This happens when they
    >> minimize the FDO application and do some processing under Windows and
    >> then restore the application. It's not a show stopper, but it is a
    >> PITA.
    >>
    >> What is a good replacement for the FDO menu system? I'm not a great
    >> Clipper programmer but I am able to maintain their code, so writing
    >> one from scratch would be an option although I'm thinking that a
    >> decent menu system should exist out there somewhere. A small memory
    >> footprint would be a plus. Any suggestions?
    >>
    >> Thanks,
    >> Scott


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    Have you already looked at Oasis
    (http://www.the-oasis.net/ftpmaster.p...t=ftpgenrl.htm) ?


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    hi,

    > I have a client running Summer '87 code in a POS application. They
    > are using IBM's old FDO product (Fixed Disk Organizer) as their menu
    > system.


    if i remember right FDO was only a ROM based BATch System

    > Since I moved them out of the DOS environment and into Windows (98 SE)
    > the FDO application will sometimes crash. This happens when they


    did you "start" Win98 also from FDO ?

    > minimize the FDO application and do some processing under Windows
    > and then restore the application.


    and than they start other Application with FDO ?

    if yes ...

    greetings by OHR
    Jimmy



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    Scott;

    >> May be I missing something but what is wrong with Windows shortcuts?

    >
    > I guess you're missing something. ;-)
    >
    > I said I moved the application to the Windows OS (from a DOS
    > environment). It's still a Clipper Summer '87 application that is
    > menu driven. I need a replacement for the FDO menu system.


    I, and apparently others, are not clear on this. Perhaps the issue is your
    definition of "application."

    You have a application that consists of a single EXE that you want to call
    from a DOS menu system? Why? If it is a single EXE, then either create a
    shortcut on the desktop or put it on the regular Window Start menu (or
    both). It doesn't matter if the EXE is a DOS program or a Windows program.

    Or, you have an application that consists of multiple EXE's that are each
    called from a DOS menu system which makes it appear to be one EXE to the
    user? This is more complex. It would be better to compile all the code into
    one EXE. If that is not feasible, you could create a desktop folder, and put
    shortcuts to all the EXEs into that. Granted it wouldn't seem like they were
    using the same application as it did with the DOS menu system.

    Perhaps I still don't understand?

    --
    Regards,
    James Bott
    Intellitech
    San Diego, California, USA
    http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jbott



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    Scott

    Check to see if GrumpMenu is on the OASIS.
    Another alternative is to create an app with a picklist() (Grumpfish) of apps
    you want to swap out to.
    IIRC there's also a couple of different menu classes/functions in Grumpfish.

    HTH
    Steve



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    On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 17:21:01 -0700, "James"
    <jbottREMOVE@compuserve.com> wrote:

    >
    >Scott;
    >
    >>> May be I missing something but what is wrong with Windows shortcuts?

    >>
    >> I guess you're missing something. ;-)
    >>
    >> I said I moved the application to the Windows OS (from a DOS
    >> environment). It's still a Clipper Summer '87 application that is
    >> menu driven. I need a replacement for the FDO menu system.

    >
    >I, and apparently others, are not clear on this. Perhaps the issue is your
    >definition of "application."


    I guess so. ;-)

    I am responsible for a POS *system*. In addition to the main cash
    register program there are programs for physical inventories, managing
    price changes, timeclock functions, etc. etc. It's a full blown
    system written solely in Clipper Summer '87 but running under Windows
    98SE. It previously ran under DRDOS, but I needed to move it to
    Windows in order to take advantage of things like high speed DSL lines
    and newer versions of credit card verification programs. You enter
    the system by clicking an icon on the desktop. From there it runs in
    a full screen DOS box.

    The system is driven by menus created using the FDO program. The
    first menu looks like:

    1. Cash Register Menu
    2. Manager's Menu
    3. Credit Card Menu
    4. VIP Customer Menu

    etc.

    If you took menu option 1, it would look like:

    1. Cash Register Program
    2. End of Day Closeout
    3. Receive Daily Files from Office
    4. Receive New Pricing File

    etc.

    As you can see, menus call other menus which do different functions. I
    want to replace this old, non-supported FDO menu system with something
    that will work properly under Windows. I was hoping for a native
    Clipper (supporting Summer '87 compiler) solution but any menu system
    that could be used by Clipper Summer '87 applications would do fine.
    I would simply stick with the FDO system, but as I mentioned it's
    starting to sometimes crash since moving from DRDOS as the host OS to
    Windows 98SE as the host OS.

    Scott

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