Jobs for old cobol programmer - cobol

In article <71a0517b-4eb2-467c-9a18-40309cd8423a@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
len <lsumnler@gmail.com> wrote:
>Hi all
>
>I originally got my start into programming back in '74 at Corp.
>Allstate as an IBM 360 assembler programmer.

[snip]

>I still code cobol on an old Wang
>Operating System running in a VM environment but since about 92 have
>coded in Topspeed, Python, Ruby some VB ,Access.

I've no particular advice for you, Mr Sumnler, outside of The Usual...
http://www.indeed.com being, in my experience, the most wide-ranging of
search-sites. I wish you the best of luck in your hunting.

(if you are looking for a job because you want one, well and good... if
you are looking for a job because you need one then it is curious that
you're not able to find one in decade-and-a-half-old skills and are
falling back on three-decades-old skills)

DD

On Mon, 5 May 2008 12:59:53 -0700 (PDT), len <lsumnler@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi all
>
>I originally got my start into programming back in '74 at Corp.
>Allstate as an IBM 360 assembler programmer. Went to Corp Motorola
>after a couple of years where started programming in cobol and after a
>couple of years moved on to other companies coding cobol and was the
>manager of an IMS/DBDC department. I still code cobol on an old Wang
>Operating System running in a VM environment but since about 92 have
>coded in Topspeed, Python, Ruby some VB ,Access. Still coding cobol
>but have lost skills in jcl etc.
>
>Any advice on looking for jobs to get back in the mainframe
>environment.

Search for keyword MVS. If they are still clinging to an operating system name that was
obsolete eight years ago, you know their clock stopped at least a decade ago.

Re-learn CICS and DB2.

Do not mention Python or Ruby on your resume nor in conversation. Mainframers think that's
the enemy.

In Chicagoland, Discover is always looking. Of course, there's a reason why.

Isn't Python just a script tool?

On Mon, 05 May 2008 23:00:47 -0500, Robert <no@e.mail> wrote:

>On Mon, 5 May 2008 12:59:53 -0700 (PDT), len <lsumnler@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Hi all
>>
>>I originally got my start into programming back in '74 at Corp.
>>Allstate as an IBM 360 assembler programmer. Went to Corp Motorola
>>after a couple of years where started programming in cobol and after a
>>couple of years moved on to other companies coding cobol and was the
>>manager of an IMS/DBDC department. I still code cobol on an old Wang
>>Operating System running in a VM environment but since about 92 have
>>coded in Topspeed, Python, Ruby some VB ,Access. Still coding cobol
>>but have lost skills in jcl etc.
>>
>>Any advice on looking for jobs to get back in the mainframe
>>environment.
>
>Search for keyword MVS. If they are still clinging to an operating system name that was
>obsolete eight years ago, you know their clock stopped at least a decade ago.
>
>Re-learn CICS and DB2.
>
>Do not mention Python or Ruby on your resume nor in conversation. Mainframers think that's
>the enemy.
>
>In Chicagoland, Discover is always looking. Of course, there's a reason why.

** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

On Tue, 06 May 2008 22:09:07 -0400, Graham Hobbs <ghobbs@cdpwise.net> wrote:

>Isn't Python just a script tool?

It compiles to byte code, similar to Java and .NET (CIL). There has been some work on JIT
compilation and straight compilation via C++.

AcuCobol and R/M Cobol compile to byte code. I wouldn't call them 'just a script tool.'


>On Mon, 05 May 2008 23:00:47 -0500, Robert <no@e.mail> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 5 May 2008 12:59:53 -0700 (PDT), len <lsumnler@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi all
>>>
>>>I originally got my start into programming back in '74 at Corp.
>>>Allstate as an IBM 360 assembler programmer. Went to Corp Motorola
>>>after a couple of years where started programming in cobol and after a
>>>couple of years moved on to other companies coding cobol and was the
>>>manager of an IMS/DBDC department. I still code cobol on an old Wang
>>>Operating System running in a VM environment but since about 92 have
>>>coded in Topspeed, Python, Ruby some VB ,Access. Still coding cobol
>>>but have lost skills in jcl etc.
>>>
>>>Any advice on looking for jobs to get back in the mainframe
>>>environment.
>>
>>Search for keyword MVS. If they are still clinging to an operating system name that was
>>obsolete eight years ago, you know their clock stopped at least a decade ago.
>>
>>Re-learn CICS and DB2.
>>
>>Do not mention Python or Ruby on your resume nor in conversation. Mainframers think that's
>>the enemy.
>>
>>In Chicagoland, Discover is always looking. Of course, there's a reason why.
>
>** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

On May 7, 2:09 pm, Graham Hobbs <gho...@cdpwise.net> wrote:
> Isn't Python just a script tool?

It can be used as a scripting tool, but it scales very well and can be
used to develop serious applications. For example see Stoq

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoq
http://www.stoq.com.br/index.php?lang=en