Cobol Programmer

ob Title: Cobol Programmer
Location: Albany, NY
Duration: 6 Months


Minimum of eight (8) years IT experience with data analysis, data
access, data structures, data manipulation, databases, data reporting
solutions,

and technical and user documentation
experience of Crystal Reports development version 8 or later
experience of COBOL application development
experience extracting business logic from legacy applications

Associated Skills (must meet at least 2 to be considered)

Strong analytical and problem-solving skills, including strong
technical writing, presentation, and communication skills
Hands-on experience working with Oracle version 9i or later
Ability to translate business requirements into reports.
Unisys Mainframe experience specific to COBOL68, COBOL74, and ALGOL

In article <ef295a3a-d780-434d-80f3-c0719ab7321b@w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
Tanvir <Tanvir.catamerica@gmail.com> wrote:
>ob Title: Cobol Programmer

When posting to comp.lang.cobol please include a rate, or range of rates,
associated with the position(s) offered; to do otherwise leads many to
conclude that you are either trolling for resumes or running a blind ad to
determine rates.

DD

On Aug 7, 9:24 pm, docdw...@panix.com () wrote:
> In article <ef295a3a-d780-434d-80f3-c0719ab73...@w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Tanvir <Tanvir.catamer...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >ob Title: Cobol Programmer
>
> When posting to comp.lang.cobol please include a rate, or range of rates,
> associated with the position(s) offered; to do otherwise leads many to
> conclude that you are either trolling for resumes or running a blind ad to
> determine rates.
>
> DD

Ye gods and little fishes. Did you read the list of requirements? They
need someone who was programming 40 years ago and has a very good
memory. COBOL 68? Not since 1972 bunkie. How many of us ever even met
an Algol programmer? I saw Crystal Writer on an obsolete AT & T
desktop computer in the 1980's but never wrote anything in it. And
this old crock that has all these obsolete skills takes the job is
supposed to load up his walker, leave the comforts of the retirement
home, and travel hundreds of miles for a six months gig?

Interesting that they don't mention the computer, the OS and the type
of applications. I just love human resources people. I can presume
Univac but last time I tackled such a beast it ran Exec 8.
That was in the early 1980's. I don't remember a single command.

I am tempted to respond just to find out what corporation or
university is stuck in this particular time warp.

John C.

In article <ebb10b09-b166-43f0-99c5-058e5c1ee87f@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
john@wexfordpress.com <john@wexfordpress.com> wrote:
>On Aug 7, 9:24 pm, docdw...@panix.com () wrote:
>> In article
><ef295a3a-d780-434d-80f3-c0719ab73...@w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
>>
>> Tanvir <Tanvir.catamer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >ob Title: Cobol Programmer
>>
>> When posting to comp.lang.cobol please include a rate, or range of rates,
>> associated with the position(s) offered; to do otherwise leads many to
>> conclude that you are either trolling for resumes or running a blind ad to
>> determine rates.
>>
>> DD
>
>Ye gods and little fishes. Did you read the list of requirements?

Nope... I rarely do; I just sort of skim and see if I can find a rate, or
range of rates, associated with the position(s) offered. Sometimes a rate
is posted and I miss it... I then apologise and get on with Life, or
whatever it is that I believe I do when I say I'm doing that.

>They
>need someone who was programming 40 years ago and has a very good
>memory.

Wanted: virgin with twenty years' experience as a streetwalker.

[snip]

>I am tempted to respond just to find out what corporation or
>university is stuck in this particular time warp.

I don't know if it is warp, woof or weft... or wight... or wong... or...
*ptooie*, gotta get the tongue working again... round and round the rugged
rock the ragged rascal ran... there ya go. I think if you were to respond
you'd find yourself chatting with a sub-pimp, or 'pimple', who's been
assigned to troll for resumes... 'here, find all these buzzwords, that
ought to keep you busy for an afternoon'.

DD

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:34:35 -0700 (PDT), "john@wexfordpress.com" <john@wexfordpress.com>
wrote:

>On Aug 7, 9:24 pm, docdw...@panix.com () wrote:
>> In article <ef295a3a-d780-434d-80f3-c0719ab73...@w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
>>
>> Tanvir <Tanvir.catamer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >ob Title: Cobol Programmer
>>
>> When posting to comp.lang.cobol please include a rate, or range of rates,
>> associated with the position(s) offered; to do otherwise leads many to
>> conclude that you are either trolling for resumes or running a blind ad to
>> determine rates.
>>
>> DD
>
>Ye gods and little fishes. Did you read the list of requirements? They
>need someone who was programming 40 years ago and has a very good
>memory. COBOL 68? Not since 1972 bunkie. How many of us ever even met
>an Algol programmer? I saw Crystal Writer on an obsolete AT & T
>desktop computer in the 1980's but never wrote anything in it. And
>this old crock that has all these obsolete skills takes the job is
>supposed to load up his walker, leave the comforts of the retirement
>home, and travel hundreds of miles for a six months gig?
>
>Interesting that they don't mention the computer, the OS and the type
>of applications. I just love human resources people. I can presume
>Univac but last time I tackled such a beast it ran Exec 8.
>That was in the early 1980's. I don't remember a single command.
>
>I am tempted to respond just to find out what corporation or
>university is stuck in this particular time warp.

The client is New York State. The application is most likely Medicaid, less likely welfare
or transportation. The state calls the department Business Intelligence, making it
difficult to figure out what application they're talking about. Unisys supported a
COBOL68 compiler until a few years ago, maybe still does. They said their users demanded
it.

This client wants to get reports off the Unisys/Cobol platform (running OS 2200), onto
Crystal Reports, an aging database report generator (owned by SAP). Last year the
reporting tool was Cognos, another aging bad idea (now owned by IBM). Next year it will be
something else. There are so many business intelligence packages (report generators), New
York could change directions every year for twenty years without running out of choices.

Albany is a fun city. There are 28,000 New York State employees in Albany and suburbs.
Most don't work at the capitol. State offices are everywhere, often not marked by signs.

On 13 Aug., 02:51, Robert <n...@e.mail> wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:34:35 -0700 (PDT), "j...@wexfordpress.com" <j...@wexfordpress.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Aug 7, 9:24 pm, docdw...@panix.com () wrote:
> >> In article <ef295a3a-d780-434d-80f3-c0719ab73...@w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
>
> >> Tanvir <Tanvir.catamer...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >ob Title: Cobol Programmer
>
> >> When posting to comp.lang.cobol please include a rate, or range of rates,
> >> associated with the position(s) offered; to do otherwise leads many to
> >> conclude that you are either trolling for resumes or running a blind ad to
> >> determine rates.
>
> >> DD
>
> >Ye gods and little fishes. Did you read the list of requirements? They
> >need someone who was programming 40 years ago and has a very good
> >memory. COBOL 68? Not since 1972 bunkie. How many of us ever even met
> >an Algol programmer? I saw Crystal Writer on an obsolete AT & T
> >desktop computer in the 1980's but never wrote anything in it. And
> >this old crock that has all these obsolete skills takes the job is
> >supposed to load up his walker, leave the comforts of the retirement
> >home, and travel hundreds of miles for a six months gig?
>
> >Interesting that they don't mention the computer, the OS and the type
> >of applications. I just love human resources people. I can presume
> >Univac but last time I tackled such a beast it ran Exec 8.
> >That was in the early 1980's. I don't remember a single command.
>
> >I am tempted to respond just to find out what corporation or
> >university is stuck in this particular time warp.
>
> The client is New York State. The application is most likely Medicaid, less likely welfare
> or transportation. The state calls the department Business Intelligence, making it
> difficult to figure out what application they're talking about. Unisys supported a
> COBOL68 compiler until a few years ago, maybe still does. They said their users demanded
> it.
>
> This client wants to get reports off the Unisys/Cobol platform (running OS 2200), onto
> Crystal Reports, an aging database report generator (owned by SAP). Last year the
> reporting tool was Cognos, another aging bad idea (now owned by IBM). Next year it will be
> something else. There are so many business intelligence packages (report generators), New
> York could change directions every year for twenty years without running out of choices.
>
> Albany is a fun city. There are 28,000 New York State employees in Albany and suburbs.
> Most don't work at the capitol. State offices are everywhere, often not marked by signs.

Robert,
ALGOL is a requested skill, so this would be MCP not 2200.
Regards Hans

Robert wrote:
>
> Albany is a fun city. There are 28,000 New York State employees in
> Albany and suburbs. Most don't work at the capitol. State offices are
> everywhere, often not marked by signs.

But it's full of Albanians.

"HeyBub" <heybub@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
news:6OmdnT7Vb4BDqz7VnZ2dnUVZ_rXinZ2d@earthlink.co m...
> Robert wrote:
>>
>> Albany is a fun city. There are 28,000 New York State employees in
>> Albany and suburbs. Most don't work at the capitol. State offices are
>> everywhere, often not marked by signs.
>
> But it's full of Albanians.

:-)

<best mock operatic baritone>
"AL-BA-NEEE"
"WHY NOT TAKE..."
"AL-BA-NEEE"
</best mock operatic baritone>

Pete.
--
"I used to write COBOL...now I can do anything."

On 13 Aug., 21:32, "HeyBub" <hey...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> Robert wrote:
>
> > Albany is a fun city. There are 28,000 New York State employees in
> > Albany and suburbs. Most don't work at the capitol. State offices are
> > everywhere, often not marked by signs.
>
> But it's full of Albanians.

.... I thaught that they maust have gone somewhere after they opened
the border, now I know. So thats most likely an area to avoid!

In article <ebb10b09-b166-43f0-99c5-058e5c1ee87f@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
"john@wexfordpress.com" <john@wexfordpress.com> writes:
> On Aug 7, 9:24 pm, docdw...@panix.com () wrote:
>> In article <ef295a3a-d780-434d-80f3-c0719ab73...@w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
>>
>> Tanvir <Tanvir.catamer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >ob Title: Cobol Programmer
>>
>> When posting to comp.lang.cobol please include a rate, or range of rates,
>> associated with the position(s) offered; to do otherwise leads many to
>> conclude that you are either trolling for resumes or running a blind ad to
>> determine rates.
>>
>> DD
>
> Ye gods and little fishes. Did you read the list of requirements? They
> need someone who was programming 40 years ago and has a very good
> memory.

Not 40, but pretty close!!

> COBOL 68? Not since 1972 bunkie.

Done that (and still can!!)

> How many of us ever even met
> an Algol programmer?

I did Algolm too.

> I saw Crystal Writer on an obsolete AT & T
> desktop computer in the 1980's but never wrote anything in it. And

Never saw Crystal Writer.

> this old crock that has all these obsolete skills takes the job is
> supposed to load up his walker, leave the comforts of the retirement
> home, and travel hundreds of miles for a six months gig?

Well, I hate to disappoint you but I don't have a walker and I'm not
in a retirement home and I have most of those skills. But I wouldn't
50 miles for a 6 month gig unless the rate was really, really good.
I doubt seriously it is.

>
> Interesting that they don't mention the computer, the OS and the type
> of applications. I just love human resources people. I can presume
> Univac but last time I tackled such a beast it ran Exec 8.
> That was in the early 1980's. I don't remember a single command.

I did Exec-8 as well. Same timeframe. I remember a lot of it but it
really doesn't matter because all of my pocket references are still
sitting right on top of my desk at home (remember the cute little
thin black binder?) where I can grab them if I ever need them. I
actually enjoyed the Univac environment. But then, I enjoyed VM370
on the original IBM 4300 as well. :-)

>
> I am tempted to respond just to find out what corporation or
> university is stuck in this particular time warp.

It would be interesting to know, but my guess is the headhunter isn't
going to tell you for fear that you will approach them directly and
cheat them out of their (most likely obscene!) fee.

bill

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