InstallAware: Is it going to stay?

This is a discussion on InstallAware: Is it going to stay? within the Delphi forums in Programming Languages category; Chris Burrows wrote: > BTW InstallAware is also claimed to be *Made with Delphi* It is. -- Nick Hodges Delphi Product Manager - Embarcadero http://blogs.codegear.com/nickhodges...

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  #11  
Old 07-31-2008, 12:34 AM
Nick Hodges (Embarcadero)
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Chris Burrows wrote:

> BTW InstallAware is also claimed to be *Made with Delphi*


It is.

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  #12  
Old 07-31-2008, 12:47 AM
Alexandre Machado
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Chris Burrows escreveu:
> Alexandre Machado <alexandre@nospam.com.br> wrote:
>> Doesn't Thoma Cressey Bravo own a Install something company? If so, CG
>> should use that InstallSomething product.

>
> I can't see any:
>
> http://www.tcb.com/software.php
>
>> I could never understand why CG did not use the excellent, free and
>> *Made with Delphi* Inno Setup.
>>

>
> My guess is that (for better or worse) CG's requirements included MSI, Internet-aware updates etc. etc.
>
> BTW InstallAware is also claimed to be *Made with Delphi*
>
> http://blog.marcocantu.com/blog/handbook_note_93.html
>
> Note the comment :-(


LOL!!! They should omit that SlowAware is made with Delphi!

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Old 07-31-2008, 12:51 AM
John Kaster (CodeGear)
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Nathanial Woolls wrote:

> Under Windows Vista?


I've had fast installs with Vista 64-bit.

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  #14  
Old 07-31-2008, 12:56 AM
David Erbas-White
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Nick Hodges (Embarcadero) wrote:
> Farshad wrote:
>
>> Will there be some serious improvements to the Installer in D2009?

>
> Yes, there will be.
>



Any humorous ones???

David Erbas-White
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  #15  
Old 07-31-2008, 02:45 AM
danny heijl
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Nick Hodges (Embarcadero) schreef:

> I think we are seeing full installs -- help and third party -- in about
> 45 minutes, with the large help install taking much of that.
>
> Delphi itself installs in about 10-15 minutes.


Are you aware of Wix? The V3 version is excellent, it's open source, and
it's good enough for MS. It has a learning curve, and authoring a
setup is a fair bit of work, but it pays in the end.

Danny
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  #16  
Old 07-31-2008, 07:40 AM
somebody
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"Jan Derk" <none@none.none> wrote in message
news:4890ed7f$1@newsgroups.borland.com...

> Besides being extreme bloatware, InstallAware haven't got any ethics

either.
> They stole competitor website designs not once, but twice:
>
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/installsite/...11/412661.aspx


http://www.installaware.com/news-stefan.htm :

<q>
We do not waste our customer's money on expensive website designs, or other
"luxury" marketing spending.
</q>

Well, they may be thieves, but at least they are not liars <g>.


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Old 07-31-2008, 07:40 AM
somebody
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"Nick Hodges (Embarcadero)" <nick.hodges@codegear.com> wrote
> Dave Nottage [TeamB] wrote:


> > Can you make any specific comments about install times? <g>


> I think we are seeing full installs -- help and third party -- in about
> 45 minutes, with the large help install taking much of that.


If someone told back in 1988 that me that in 20 years, an application
installation in 45 minutes would be considered fast, I would have slapped
him silly.


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  #18  
Old 07-31-2008, 08:34 AM
Dave Nottage [TeamB]
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somebody wrote:

> > I think we are seeing full installs -- help and third party -- in
> > about 45 minutes, with the large help install taking much of that.

>
> If someone told back in 1988 that me that in 20 years, an application
> installation in 45 minutes would be considered fast, I would have
> slapped him silly.


Where has anyone considered that 45 minutes is "fast"?

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Old 07-31-2008, 08:46 AM
somebody
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"Dave Nottage [TeamB]" <davidn.cgng@radsoft.com.au> wrote in message
news:4891b146$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
> somebody wrote:


> > > I think we are seeing full installs -- help and third party -- in
> > > about 45 minutes, with the large help install taking much of that.

> >
> > If someone told back in 1988 that me that in 20 years, an application
> > installation in 45 minutes would be considered fast, I would have
> > slapped him silly.


> Where has anyone considered that 45 minutes is "fast"?


Semantics police? Fine: If someone told back in 1988 that me that in 20
years, an application installation in 45 minutes would be considered a
*serious [speed] improvement [over a previous version]*, I would have
slapped him silly.


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  #20  
Old 07-31-2008, 09:57 AM
Farshad
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"somebody"
> <q>
> We do not waste our customer's money on expensive website designs, or
> other
> "luxury" marketing spending.
> </q>
>
> Well, they may be thieves, but at least they are not liars <g>.


They do waste my time each time I tend to Install/Modify/Uninstall RAD
Studio. Installing D2007 is not a process, it's a ritual!<g>


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