InstallAware: Is it going to stay?

#1 07-30-2008, 06:07 PM

Today I had to do a minor modification in my D2007 installation. I ran the
setup, chose Modify and asked it to removed IntraWeb from installed
components. No kidding, it took more than two hours and still waiting for it
to finish. I just asked it to remove a single component and I had to
interrupt working for more than two hours! A similar operation could be done
in a matter of minutes or even seconds in Delphi 7.

Will there be some serious improvements to the Installer in D2009? The
current picture is far from being acceptable.

#2 07-30-2008, 06:38 PM

Farshad wrote:

> Today I had to do a minor modification in my D2007 installation. I ran the
> setup, chose Modify and asked it to removed IntraWeb from installed
> components. No kidding, it took more than two hours and still waiting for it
> to finish. I just asked it to remove a single component and I had to
> interrupt working for more than two hours! A similar operation could be done
> in a matter of minutes or even seconds in Delphi 7.
>
> Will there be some serious improvements to the Installer in D2009? The
> current picture is far from being acceptable.

Well, J# Together and the dog slow Visual Studio help viewer will still be in
D2009. So I would not have too much hope to see a speedy native installer. But
then again I also thought we would never get Unicode.

Besides being extreme bloatware, InstallAware haven't got any ethics either.
They stole competitor website designs not once, but twice:

http://msmvps.com/blogs/installsite/...11/412661.aspx

Jan Derk

#3 07-30-2008, 08:35 PM

IA is extremely slow. It takes me forever to install Delphi on PC's.. and
because of install testing, I do it a lot...

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"Farshad" <farshad@ATfmsoftDOT.net> wrote in message
news:4890e632$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
> Today I had to do a minor modification in my D2007 installation. I ran the
> setup, chose Modify and asked it to removed IntraWeb from installed
> components. No kidding, it took more than two hours and still waiting for
> it to finish. I just asked it to remove a single component and I had to
> interrupt working for more than two hours! A similar operation could be
> done in a matter of minutes or even seconds in Delphi 7.
>
> Will there be some serious improvements to the Installer in D2009? The
> current picture is far from being acceptable.
>

#4 07-30-2008, 08:45 PM

Farshad wrote:

> Will there be some serious improvements to the Installer in D2009?

Yes, there will be.

--
Nick Hodges
Delphi Product Manager - Embarcadero
http://blogs.codegear.com/nickhodges

#5 07-30-2008, 08:46 PM

Farshad escreveu:
> Today I had to do a minor modification in my D2007 installation. I ran the
> setup, chose Modify and asked it to removed IntraWeb from installed
> components. No kidding, it took more than two hours and still waiting for it
> to finish. I just asked it to remove a single component and I had to
> interrupt working for more than two hours! A similar operation could be done
> in a matter of minutes or even seconds in Delphi 7.
>
> Will there be some serious improvements to the Installer in D2009? The
> current picture is far from being acceptable.

Doesn't Thoma Cressey Bravo own a Install something company? If so, CG
should use that InstallSomething product. Anything is better than
super-slow InstallAware.
I could never understand why CG did not use the excellent, free and
*Made with Delphi* Inno Setup.

Regards

#6 07-30-2008, 09:05 PM

Nick Hodges (Embarcadero) wrote:

> > Will there be some serious improvements to the Installer in D2009?
>
> Yes, there will be.

Can you make any specific comments about install times? <g>

--
Dave Nottage [TeamB]

#7 07-30-2008, 09:18 PM

Dave Nottage [TeamB] wrote:

> Can you make any specific comments about install times? <g>

I think we are seeing full installs -- help and third party -- in about
45 minutes, with the large help install taking much of that.

Delphi itself installs in about 10-15 minutes.

--
Nick Hodges
Delphi Product Manager - Embarcadero
http://blogs.codegear.com/nickhodges

#8 07-30-2008, 09:23 PM

> I think we are seeing full installs -- help and third party -- in about
> 45 minutes, with the large help install taking much of that.
>
> Delphi itself installs in about 10-15 minutes.

Under Windows Vista?

#9 07-30-2008, 11:39 PM

Nathanial Woolls wrote:

>
> Under Windows Vista?

I can't say -- I only install myself on XP, but I don't know why it
would be much slower.

--
Nick Hodges
Delphi Product Manager - Embarcadero
http://blogs.codegear.com/nickhodges

#10 07-30-2008, 11:39 PM

Alexandre Machado <alexandre@nospam.com.br> wrote:
>
>Doesn't Thoma Cressey Bravo own a Install something company? If so, CG
>should use that InstallSomething product.

I can't see any:

http://www.tcb.com/software.php

>I could never understand why CG did not use the excellent, free and
>*Made with Delphi* Inno Setup.
>

My guess is that (for better or worse) CG's requirements included MSI, Internet-aware updates etc. etc.

BTW InstallAware is also claimed to be *Made with Delphi*

http://blog.marcocantu.com/blog/handbook_note_93.html

Note the comment :-(

--
Chris Burrows
CFB Software
http://www.cfbsoftware.com/cp

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