Eiffel's Future?

I am just finding Eiffel and I am curious about it's future? It seems
like a great language but many pages/projects are out of date or
abandoned. Even the NICE page hasn't been updated since early 2006?

Does it have a future?

Jeremy

>>>>> "Jeremy" == Jeremy <jeremy@nospam.cowgar.com> writes:

Jeremy> I am just finding Eiffel and I am curious about it's
Jeremy> future? It seems like a great language but many
Jeremy> pages/projects are out of date or abandoned.

That applies to any subject you might care to name, I would think.

Jeremy> Even the NICE page hasn't been updated since early 2006?

I think NICE has been rather sidelined by the ISO standard.

Jeremy> Does it have a future?

Certainly it does.
--
Colin Adams
Preston Lancashire

On 6 Apr., 05:20, Jeremy <jer...@nospam.cowgar.com> wrote:
> I am just finding Eiffel and I am curious about it's future? It seems
> like a great language but many pages/projects are out of date or
> abandoned. Even the NICE page hasn't been updated since early 2006?
>
> Does it have a future?


Don't think so. It's a dead end.

The community killed themself.

Colin is one of the last lonley users working with gobos
eiffel compiler so his opinion is very biased.

On 6 Apr., 10:48, Colin Paul Adams <co...@colina.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>>> "Jeremy" == Jeremy <jer...@nospam.cowgar.com> writes:
>
> Jeremy> I am just finding Eiffel and I am curious about it's
> Jeremy> future? It seems like a great language but many
> Jeremy> pages/projects are out of date or abandoned.
>
> That applies to any subject you might care to name, I would think.
>
> Jeremy> Even the NICE page hasn't been updated since early 2006?
>
> I think NICE has been rather sidelined by the ISO standard.
>
> Jeremy> Does it have a future?
>
> Certainly it does.
> --
> Colin Adams
> Preston Lancashire

>>>>> "llothar" == llothar <llothar@web.de> writes:

llothar> Colin is one of the last lonley users working with gobos
llothar> eiffel compiler so his opinion is very biased.

I'm not lonely at all.
There are far too many people using Eiffel in the company I work for.
--
Colin Adams
Preston Lancashire

llothar schrieb:
> On 6 Apr., 05:20, Jeremy <jer...@nospam.cowgar.com> wrote:
>> I am just finding Eiffel and I am curious about it's future? It seems
>> like a great language but many pages/projects are out of date or
>> abandoned. Even the NICE page hasn't been updated since early 2006?
>>
>> Does it have a future?
>
>
> Don't think so. It's a dead end.
>
> The community killed themself.

I can't believe that's the only reason. There has to be more.

You can check http://www.eiffelroom.org/ or http://origo.ethz.ch/ for
active projects.
And also http://dev.eiffel.com/ for the opensource EiffelStudio.
And then follow the various links.

No the community is not dead, and I am not working with Colin neither

On 7 Apr., 23:50, J <jocelyn-fake-em...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> You can check http://origo.ethz.ch/for
> active projects.

I just had a look at origio. What the fuck?

Look at the projects, this seems to have a lot of clones
"http://hexabang.origo.ethz.ch/" but i was not able to find any
real project at all. Just fucking lies.

The forum has also only a handfull of postings during a year.

Unbelievable.

> > The community killed themself.
>
> I can't believe that's the only reason. There has to be more.

You have no idea what the community did for insane things.
This was indeed enough.

And that we now only have one serious compiler (sorry gec is
a complete toy program and will be for many more years) which is
extremely expensive is not making it easier.

Yes they have a GPL version but that does not help.
If you want a user base you also need a free for commerical compiler.

Visual Eiffel is dead and SmartEiffel is not an Eiffel anymore.

llothar wrote:
> And that we now only have one serious compiler (...) which is
> extremely expensive is not making it easier.

AFAICT, it is priced just like any complete language toolset
that comes with a support contract.


> Yes they have a GPL version but that does not help.
> If you want a user base you also need a free for commerical compiler.

Do you mean, an Eiffel tools user base with necessraily smaller
scale business plans?