Beware SmartEiffel

I have no problem with proprietary software, but be clear in your
license description, PLEASE! Don't claim to be GPL and then install
trial-ware for non-commercial use only without telling the user much
more than a cryptic compiler name.

To top it off, I had to kill the installer from the process manager,
because there was no other way to opt out of lcc-win32 - modal dialog
with "OK" and no "Cancel" or ESC-handling. Lame...

BTW, before installing the windows version, I tried compiling the
cygwin version. This failed with
the last line in the log reading

../make_release.sh: line 454: ./new_libs: No such file or directory

And I thought Eiffel was a correctness-oriented language used by
correctness-oriented programmers.

Disappointing, then misleading, then lame.

On May 13, 4:44 pm, "jhc0...@gmail.com" <jhc0...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Don't claim to be GPL and then install
> trial-ware for non-commercial use only without telling the user much
> more than a cryptic compiler name.

More about this:

The very first window does mention that lcc-win32 will be installed,
but this notice is kind of obscured in a lot of other text (that I
assumed was some standard GPL disclaimers), and LCC is actually
referred to as "free" - no mention of "non-commercial only".

"jhc0033@gmail.com" <jhc0033@gmail.com> writes:

> On May 13, 4:44 pm, "jhc0...@gmail.com" <jhc0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Don't claim to be GPL and then install
>> trial-ware for non-commercial use only without telling the user much
>> more than a cryptic compiler name.
>
> More about this:
>
> The very first window does mention that lcc-win32 will be installed,
> but this notice is kind of obscured in a lot of other text (that I
> assumed was some standard GPL disclaimers), and LCC is actually
> referred to as "free" - no mention of "non-commercial only".

And in case nobody noticed: ISE Eiffel needs some C Compiler!

"jhc0033@gmail.com" <jhc0033@gmail.com> writes:

> On May 13, 4:44 pm, "jhc0...@gmail.com" <jhc0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Don't claim to be GPL and then install
>> trial-ware for non-commercial use only without telling the user much
>> more than a cryptic compiler name.
>
> More about this:
>
> The very first window does mention that lcc-win32 will be installed,
> but this notice is kind of obscured in a lot of other text (that I
> assumed was some standard GPL disclaimers), and LCC is actually
> referred to as "free" - no mention of "non-commercial only".
Sorry I do not get this message, does SmartEiffel install lcc-win32?

I doubt that very much.

Regards
Friedrich

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jhc0033@gmail.com wrote:
> I have no problem with proprietary software, but be clear in your
> license description, PLEASE! Don't claim to be GPL and then install
> trial-ware for non-commercial use only without telling the user much
> more than a cryptic compiler name.
>
> To top it off, I had to kill the installer from the process manager,
> because there was no other way to opt out of lcc-win32 - modal dialog
> with "OK" and no "Cancel" or ESC-handling. Lame...
>
> BTW, before installing the windows version, I tried compiling the
> cygwin version. This failed with
> the last line in the log reading
>
> ./make_release.sh: line 454: ./new_libs: No such file or directory
>
> And I thought Eiffel was a correctness-oriented language used by
> correctness-oriented programmers.
>
> Disappointing, then misleading, then lame.

You are lame, not lcc-win

lcc-win has been used by the SmallEiffel (then SmartEiffel) team since
years. Everybody likes it because of its compilation speed. If you do
not like it because obscure ideological reasons then

JUST DO NOT USE IT!

To remove lcc from your system go to the directory that
contains the lcc directory (maybe c:\) and type
rmdir lcc /S
and be done with it.



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jacob navia
jacob at jacob point remcomp point fr
logiciels/informatique
http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~lcc-win32

> Sorry I do not get this message, does SmartEiffel install lcc-win32?

Yes, AFAIR its doing it for 2 years now.