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We have released VFX Forth for Windows v4.2 and VFX Forth for Linux
is coming to release candidate phase in a few weeks.

Our VFX Forth cross compilers are now available for Linux.

With the fallen pound and some significantly reduced prices,
now is a good time to buy.

Stephen


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Stephen Pelc wrote:

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> With the fallen pound ...

So the Colonies are doing well?

I couldn't resist.
It *IS* election season on this side of Pond.

On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 11:46:37 -0500, Richard Owlett
<rowlett@atlascomm.net> wrote:

>> With the fallen pound ...
>
>So the Colonies are doing well?

I should have said rising dollar - more positive, y'know.

>I couldn't resist.
>It *IS* election season on this side of Pond.

You'll probably elect the wrong one ... ;-}

Stephen


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stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) wrote:
> Richard Owlett <rowlett@atlascomm.net> wrote:

> >It *IS* election season on this side of Pond.
>
> You'll probably elect the wrong one ... ;-}

I wish we had a right one to choose. It usually seems like voting
against the worst candidate.

McCain at least looks like an improvement. No sign of cocaine use. He
might have recovered a lot from 5 years as a POW, that's got to be worse
for PTSD than just a couple of years of combat. I'd feel better about
him if I knew he'd done some therapy for it, but he isn't likely to
announce "My mental problems are 100% cured".

Of course he'd be likely to die in office leaving us with somebody who
apparently has never made a serious government mistake and corrected it.
That's pretty scary.

"Slow down, you're driving way too fast."
"I've been driving for three years and I've never had an accident."
"You'll never have but one."

On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:05:02 -0700, Jonah Thomas wrote
(in article <20080904150502.304121e5.jethomas5@gmail.com>):

> Of course he'd be likely to die in office leaving us with somebody who
> apparently has never made a serious government mistake and corrected it.
> That's pretty scary.

Well, presidents don't run the government. They run the military. Military
mistakes are much easier to fix.

I had also thought about the mental health effects if his imprisonment.
McCain has rarely talked in detail about his POW experience. The act of being
"broken" seems to have changed him from the infallible fighter jock to a
thinking feeling human. He still has difficulty describing how he was
"shamed" and how his fellow prisoners were crucial to his surviving the
experience. Not to put too much on it, but it brings to mind the soul of
Moses being forged in the desert of the Sinai. Now I think it was a good
thing, for us anyway. Sucked to be him. Can't raise his arms, etc.

Palin versus Hillary, Biden, Obama? I don't know. Governors don't get to vote
"present" or not show up at all. Our best presidents tend to be governors
first. Throw in -not a lawyer- and we can start celebrating now! Reminds me
of Teddy R. whose photo is on my wall. Go Bull Moose Party!

I don't want to start a flame war or crazy off-topic thread, but one thing
bothers me. How could Obama come up through the Chicago Machine and NEVER see
anything corrupt or illegal enough to complain or blow the whistle? Only if
he played ball. (Was an insider, for those reading internationally.)

Young earnest democrat volunteering to help at a Chicago precinct
headquarters questioned by precinct boss.

Who sench ya?

Nobody sent me, I'm volunteering.

We don't want nobody what nobody sent!

-- Charlie Springer

Charlie Springer wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:05:02 -0700, Jonah Thomas wrote
> (in article <20080904150502.304121e5.jethomas5@gmail.com>):
>
>> Of course he'd be likely to die in office leaving us with somebody who
>> apparently has never made a serious government mistake and corrected it.
>> That's pretty scary.
>
> Well, presidents don't run the government. They run the military. Military
> mistakes are much easier to fix.

Presidents run the executive (administrative) part of government, of
which military is but a part. And if military mistakes are "easy" to
fix, how come we haven't fixed Iraq yet?

> I had also thought about the mental health effects if his imprisonment.
> McCain has rarely talked in detail about his POW experience. The act of being
> "broken" seems to have changed him from the infallible fighter jock to a
> thinking feeling human. He still has difficulty describing how he was
> "shamed" and how his fellow prisoners were crucial to his surviving the
> experience. Not to put too much on it, but it brings to mind the soul of
> Moses being forged in the desert of the Sinai. Now I think it was a good
> thing, for us anyway. Sucked to be him. Can't raise his arms, etc.

I'm sure McCain is a fine human being. However, votes for President
should be based mostly on issues, IMO. We've had some excellent
presidents who were pretty sorry human beings, and vice-versa.

> Palin versus Hillary, Biden, Obama? I don't know. Governors don't get to vote
> "present" or not show up at all. Our best presidents tend to be governors
> first. Throw in -not a lawyer- and we can start celebrating now! Reminds me
> of Teddy R. whose photo is on my wall. Go Bull Moose Party!

Yes, it's too bad he's dead.

> I don't want to start a flame war or crazy off-topic thread, ...

Good, let's drop it.

Cheers,
Elizabeth

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Charlie Springer <RAM@regnirps.com> wrote:
> Jonah Thomas wrote
>
> > Of course he'd be likely to die in office leaving us with somebody
> > who apparently has never made a serious government mistake and
> > corrected it. That's pretty scary.
>
> Well, presidents don't run the government. They run the military.
> Military mistakes are much easier to fix.

It is thus you console me?


> Young earnest democrat volunteering to help at a Chicago precinct
> headquarters questioned by precinct boss.
>
> Who sench ya?
>
> Nobody sent me, I'm volunteering.
>
> We don't want nobody what nobody sent!

That's an issue. I had a cousin who did the same thing in another state.
He went to the guy who basicly ran the state government and asked for a
job.

"Who sent you?"

"Nobody."

"Who do you know who has connections?"

"Nobody, sir."

"I have 27 applicants who have been recommended to me by important
people. Why should I hire you instead of any of them?"

"I don't know, sir. Thank you for your time."

"You got the job. This is your first lesson. Every one of those guys
would owe the man who got him the job with me. You've got no strings on
you. You belong to me and only to me."

Is that better or worse?

The trouble with voting for politicians is that after one of them wins
you have a politician in office.

Jonah Thomas wrote:

> The trouble with voting for politicians is that after one of them wins
> you have a politician in office.

The first definition of politician in
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/politician is:

"a person experienced in the art or science of government;
especially: one actively engaged in conducting the business of a government"

My wife was elected Supervisor for the township in which we live. So
she is a politician. One of the hardest-working most civic minded
politicians I know. But then I'm biased.

Perhaps dropping this off-topic discussion was a good suggestion.

-Doug

Doug Hoffman <dhoffman@talkamerica.net> wrote:

> My wife was elected Supervisor for the township in which we live. So
> she is a politician. One of the hardest-working most civic minded
> politicians I know. But then I'm biased.

I'm glad for you and your town.

> Perhaps dropping this off-topic discussion was a good suggestion.

Agreed. I'm done.

On Sep 7, 1:22*am, Elizabeth D Rather <erat...@forth.com> wrote:
>
> Presidents run the executive (administrative) part of government, of
> which military is but a part. *And if military mistakes are "easy" to
> fix, how come we haven't fixed Iraq yet?
>
Because it's not broken. Wars are very profitable, that's why we have
them. The fact that not everyone invited to the party has fun is of
secondary importance. The Iraq war will continue until it's no longer
profitable.

Some people wish that world peace will come, and others just know it.
I know it.

-Brad