Fortran Forum Recommendation

Recommend that the title be changed to capitalize only the first letter
of the name FORTRAN. Just a nit but since the word "forum" is lower
cased, it could be argued that it isn't being done as a common practice
of upper casing the title. It would appear to be perpetuating the
former obsolescent practice of upper casing the name. I very much like
the improved, slick cover versus the prior one. I think we can still do
better (e.g. full color). You could produce a very appealing
magazine-quality document on a home computer nowadays for next to
nothing. I suppose there is an ACM template of some sort being followed
(I hope it has little relationship to APA format which is about as
obsolete as you can get).

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Gary Scott
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Gary Scott wrote:

> Recommend that the title be changed to capitalize only the first letter
> of the name FORTRAN. Just a nit but since the word "forum" is lower
> cased, it could be argued that it isn't being done as a common practice
> of upper casing the title. It would appear to be perpetuating the
> former obsolescent practice of upper casing the name. I very much like
> the improved, slick cover versus the prior one. I think we can still do
> better (e.g. full color). You could produce a very appealing
> magazine-quality document on a home computer nowadays for next to
> nothing. I suppose there is an ACM template of some sort being followed
> (I hope it has little relationship to APA format which is about as
> obsolete as you can get).
>
I guess another point...some of the code snippets are in an atrocious
style with no indention, no line spacing, etc. Recommend a standardized
clean, easier to read style for code snippets.

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Gary Scott
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On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:12:51 -0500, Gary Scott posted:

> Recommend that the title be changed to capitalize only the first letter
> of the name FORTRAN. Just a nit but since the word "forum" is lower
> cased, it could be argued that it isn't being done as a common practice
> of upper casing the title. It would appear to be perpetuating the
> former obsolescent practice of upper casing the name. I very much like
> the improved, slick cover versus the prior one. I think we can still do
> better (e.g. full color). You could produce a very appealing
> magazine-quality document on a home computer nowadays for next to
> nothing. I suppose there is an ACM template of some sort being followed
> (I hope it has little relationship to APA format which is about as
> obsolete as you can get).

What is the Fortran forum?
--
What men value in this world is not rights but privileges. 7
H. L. Mencken

Ron Ford wrote:

> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:12:51 -0500, Gary Scott posted:
>
>
>>Recommend that the title be changed to capitalize only the first letter
>>of the name FORTRAN. Just a nit but since the word "forum" is lower
>>cased, it could be argued that it isn't being done as a common practice
>>of upper casing the title. It would appear to be perpetuating the
>>former obsolescent practice of upper casing the name. I very much like
>>the improved, slick cover versus the prior one. I think we can still do
>>better (e.g. full color). You could produce a very appealing
>>magazine-quality document on a home computer nowadays for next to
>>nothing. I suppose there is an ACM template of some sort being followed
>>(I hope it has little relationship to APA format which is about as
>>obsolete as you can get).
>
>
> What is the Fortran forum?

A magazine published by the Association of Computing Machinery.

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Gary Scott
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Fortran Library: http://www.fortranlib.com

Support the Original G95 Project: http://www.g95.org
-OR-
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it can't be done.

-- Henry Ford

Hi

I have just picked up this thread.

I'm the current editor. Here is the acm web address

http://portal.acm.org/browse_dl.cfm?...art=newsletter

I'll have a chat with the acm over some of the issues raised.

cheers

ian chivers

On 21 Aug, 18:20, Gary Scott <garylsc...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Ron Ford wrote:
> > On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:12:51 -0500, Gary Scott posted:
>
> >>Recommend that the title be changed to capitalize only the first letter
> >>of the name FORTRAN. *Just a nit but since the word "forum" is lower
> >>cased, it could be argued that it isn't being done as a common practice
> >>of upper casing the title. *It would appear to be perpetuating the
> >>former obsolescent practice of upper casing the name. *I very much like
> >>the improved, slick cover versus the prior one. *I think we can stilldo
> >>better (e.g. full color). *You could produce a very appealing
> >>magazine-quality document on a home computer nowadays for next to
> >>nothing. *I suppose there is an ACM template of some sort being followed
> >>(I hope it has little relationship to APA format which is about as
> >>obsolete as you can get).
>
> > What is the Fortran forum?
>
> A magazine published by the Association of Computing Machinery.
>
> --
>
> Gary Scott
> mailto:garylscott@sbcglobal dot net
>
> Fortran Library: *http://www.fortranlib.com
>
> Support the Original G95 Project: *http://www.g95.org
> -OR-
> Support the GNU GFortran Project: *http://gcc.gnu.org/fortran/index.html
>
> If you want to do the impossible, don't hire an expert because he knows
> it can't be done.
>
> -- Henry Ford- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:20:19 -0500, Gary Scott posted:

> Ron Ford wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:12:51 -0500, Gary Scott posted:
>>
>>
>>>Recommend that the title be changed to capitalize only the first letter
>>>of the name FORTRAN. Just a nit but since the word "forum" is lower
>>>cased, it could be argued that it isn't being done as a common practice
>>>of upper casing the title. It would appear to be perpetuating the
>>>former obsolescent practice of upper casing the name. I very much like
>>>the improved, slick cover versus the prior one. I think we can still do
>>>better (e.g. full color). You could produce a very appealing
>>>magazine-quality document on a home computer nowadays for next to
>>>nothing. I suppose there is an ACM template of some sort being followed
>>>(I hope it has little relationship to APA format which is about as
>>>obsolete as you can get).
>>
>>
>> What is the Fortran forum?
>
> A magazine published by the Association of Computing Machinery.

I noticed that clf's Arjen Markus contributes this time. I wish I had I
had the means to buy every fortran tool I wanted, but alas, I was only
middle class before Bush II.
--
War will never cease until babies begin to come into the world with larger
cerebrums and smaller adrenal glands. 2
H. L. Mencken

Ron Ford wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:20:19 -0500, Gary Scott posted:
>
>
>>Ron Ford wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:12:51 -0500, Gary Scott posted:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Recommend that the title be changed to capitalize only the first letter
>>>>of the name FORTRAN. Just a nit but since the word "forum" is lower
>>>>cased, it could be argued that it isn't being done as a common practice
>>>>of upper casing the title. It would appear to be perpetuating the
>>>>former obsolescent practice of upper casing the name. I very much like
>>>>the improved, slick cover versus the prior one. I think we can still do
>>>>better (e.g. full color). You could produce a very appealing
>>>>magazine-quality document on a home computer nowadays for next to
>>>>nothing. I suppose there is an ACM template of some sort being followed
>>>>(I hope it has little relationship to APA format which is about as
>>>>obsolete as you can get).
>>>
>>>
>>>What is the Fortran forum?
>>
>>A magazine published by the Association of Computing Machinery.
>
>
> I noticed that clf's Arjen Markus contributes this time. I wish I had I
> had the means to buy every fortran tool I wanted, but alas, I was only
> middle class before Bush II.

My starting salary was 21600 in 1981. I thought I was rich.

--

Gary Scott
mailto:garylscott@sbcglobal dot net

Fortran Library: http://www.fortranlib.com

Support the Original G95 Project: http://www.g95.org
-OR-
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If you want to do the impossible, don't hire an expert because he knows
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-- Henry Ford

In message <11cunli1pa3vf$.dlg@example.invalid>, Ron Ford
<ron@example.invalid> writes
>I noticed that clf's Arjen Markus contributes this time. I wish I had I
>had the means to buy every fortran tool I wanted, but alas, I was only
>middle class before Bush II.

It's a pity that Fortran Forum remains so inaccessible. I have tried to
subscribe a few times in the past, but always failed (can't remember
what the ACM site objected to, perhaps not having a US-registered
address or US credit card, or maybe that I wasn't already an ACM
member).

I've also tried to read it via the Athens system which allows UK
academics to access a vast number of scientific publications on-line,
but the ACM chooses to not make this one available that way. I have
access to two university libraries (one a copyright library), but
neither of them takes the paper version.

I know that I have contributed to Fortran Forum (because the editor has
been kind enough to send me a copy of my own text) but as far as I'm
concerned, it remains a write-only medium. And I have not yet come
across another Fortran user in my own field who has even heard of the
publication. :-(


--
Clive Page

On Aug 22, 10:31*am, Clive Page <j...@main.machine> wrote:
> In message <11cunli1pa3vf$....@example.invalid>, Ron Ford
> <r...@example.invalid> writes
>
> >I noticed that clf's Arjen Markus contributes this time. *I wish I hadI
> >had the means to buy every fortran tool I wanted, but alas, I was only
> >middle class before Bush II.
>
> It's a pity that Fortran Forum remains so inaccessible. *I have tried to
> subscribe a few times in the past, but always failed (can't remember
> what the ACM site objected to, perhaps not having a US-registered
> address or US credit card, or maybe that I wasn't already an ACM
> member).
>
> I've also tried to read it via the Athens system which allows UK
> academics to access a vast number of scientific publications on-line,
> but the ACM chooses to not make this one available that way. *I have
> access to two university libraries (one a copyright library), but
> neither of them takes the paper version.
>
> I know that I have contributed to Fortran Forum (because the editor has
> been kind enough to send me a copy of my own text) but as far as I'm
> concerned, it remains a write-only medium. *And I have not yet come
> across another Fortran user in my own field who has even heard of the
> publication. *:-(
>
> --
> Clive Page

Come on, Clive, you've been moaning about this biennially for years. I
don't live in the US, do not have a US credit card, and am not a
member of the ACM. And I have NO PROBLEM suscribing.

If at first you don't succeed ...

Regards,

Mike Metcalf

On Aug 22, 7:34 am, michaelmetc...@compuserve.com wrote:

> Come on, Clive, you've been moaning about this biennially for years. I
> don't live in the US, do not have a US credit card, and am not a
> member of the ACM. And I have NO PROBLEM suscribing.
>
> If at first you don't succeed ...
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike Metcalf


I am the sort of person who usually has all sorts of trouble with
things like this, but I had no trouble registering for the free
reading of Volume 27, Issue 1 (April 2008) issue. I am sure I could
have read other issues if I had wanted to.

And