A challenge to all MVP's.......GET A J.O.B. for once in your life

This is a discussion on A challenge to all MVP's.......GET A J.O.B. for once in your life within the Framework and Interface Programming forums in category; You guys who hang around here are some of the sorriest and most incompetent programmers( if you can even be called that) ever!!! The only thing you know are reference books and theory that's been proven wrong in the real world You sit in front of your computer answering the SAME nickel and dime questions day after day, week after week, year after year so you can't possibly have any real experience in making an actual program and all you do is give BAD advice to those seeking it here. As far as I am concerned, Microsoft should end the ...

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Old 06-04-2005, 06:46 AM
lwti
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Default A challenge to all MVP's.......GET A J.O.B. for once in your life

You guys who hang around here are some of the sorriest and most incompetent
programmers( if you can even be called that) ever!!!

The only thing you know are reference books and theory that's been proven
wrong in the real world
You sit in front of your computer answering the SAME nickel and dime
questions day after day, week after week, year after year so you can't
possibly have any real experience in making an actual program and all you do
is give BAD advice to those seeking it here.

As far as I am concerned, Microsoft should end the MVP program as all that
it fosters is wanna be programmers who only give bad advice and never DO as
they ADVISE. You have essentially ZERO experience in coding .NET to begin
with.


DEAR MICROSOFT:
Kill off the MVP program. It only fosters people who strive for publicity in
trying to get a programming job as opposed to being actually able to do the
job. The MVP's only make programmers and the software industry look bad as
a whole as these people are supposed to be MOST VALUEABLE....when in they in
fact are the MOST WORTHLESS programmers ever, especially when they actually
do get a job they only sit around with theory, and all that nonsense of
architecture and best practices only to not even deliver the project to
begin with. Why not put all that theory and knowledge to the test and
actually see if it really works? Ha ha ha..like you can even do that?

All these people do is get silly certification and they STILL CANNOT GET A
JOB!!! Much less actually do the job.....Imagine that!!! It's no wonder
companies go off shore, as the quality of software sucks anyway, so why pay
extra in the US when it's going to be late, buggy and not what the customer
wanted anyway.


MESSAGE TO MVP's:
WAKE UP!!! START DOING SOME REAL WORK or someone will make sure the world
knows how incompetent you MVP's are and if you think you will have a hard
time now flashing your MVP and Certification letters around, wait till they
know the real truth about you and will think twice about even mentioning you
have a certification or MVP status......and no talking in front of user
groups don't count as most those groups are also like you, unemployed, can't
get the job done right.











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  #2  
Old 06-04-2005, 07:17 AM
billmiami2@netscape.net
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Default Re: A challenge to all MVP's.......GET A J.O.B. for once in your life

Please stop these inflammatory posts. What do you hope to gain by
doing this? Whether or not MVPs have jobs is their business only.
Why do you care? If someone gives me good advice at no cost, I'm
certainly not going to question his employment status or use that to
disqualify his good advice.

We are all here to help one another. Most of us here (MVP or not) take
personal time to help others and we should all be thankful for that.
If you're not happy with the participants or the quality of the help,
then please leave these newsgroups and don't come back until you learn
to treat others with respect.

Bill E.
Hollywood, FL

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  #3  
Old 06-04-2005, 07:39 AM
Kevin Spencer
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Default Re: A challenge to all MVP's.......GET A J.O.B. for once in your life

Dude, you've got some serious issues. I suggest long-term therapy.

Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -
Phillip K. Dick

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
Ambiguity has a certain quality to it.

"lwti" <spamalot@msn.com> wrote in message
news:%23MTEbKPaFHA.228@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> You guys who hang around here are some of the sorriest and most
> incompetent
> programmers( if you can even be called that) ever!!!
>
> The only thing you know are reference books and theory that's been proven
> wrong in the real world
> You sit in front of your computer answering the SAME nickel and dime
> questions day after day, week after week, year after year so you can't
> possibly have any real experience in making an actual program and all you
> do
> is give BAD advice to those seeking it here.
>
> As far as I am concerned, Microsoft should end the MVP program as all that
> it fosters is wanna be programmers who only give bad advice and never DO
> as
> they ADVISE. You have essentially ZERO experience in coding .NET to begin
> with.
>
>
> DEAR MICROSOFT:
> Kill off the MVP program. It only fosters people who strive for publicity
> in
> trying to get a programming job as opposed to being actually able to do
> the
> job. The MVP's only make programmers and the software industry look bad
> as
> a whole as these people are supposed to be MOST VALUEABLE....when in they
> in
> fact are the MOST WORTHLESS programmers ever, especially when they
> actually
> do get a job they only sit around with theory, and all that nonsense of
> architecture and best practices only to not even deliver the project to
> begin with. Why not put all that theory and knowledge to the test and
> actually see if it really works? Ha ha ha..like you can even do that?
>
> All these people do is get silly certification and they STILL CANNOT GET A
> JOB!!! Much less actually do the job.....Imagine that!!! It's no wonder
> companies go off shore, as the quality of software sucks anyway, so why
> pay
> extra in the US when it's going to be late, buggy and not what the
> customer
> wanted anyway.
>
>
> MESSAGE TO MVP's:
> WAKE UP!!! START DOING SOME REAL WORK or someone will make sure the world
> knows how incompetent you MVP's are and if you think you will have a hard
> time now flashing your MVP and Certification letters around, wait till
> they
> know the real truth about you and will think twice about even mentioning
> you
> have a certification or MVP status......and no talking in front of user
> groups don't count as most those groups are also like you, unemployed,
> can't
> get the job done right.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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  #4  
Old 06-04-2005, 10:21 AM
Peter van der Goes
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Default Re: A challenge to all MVP's.......GET A J.O.B. for once in your life


"lwti" <spamalot@msn.com> wrote in message
news:%23MTEbKPaFHA.228@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> You guys who hang around here are some of the sorriest and most
> incompetent
> programmers( if you can even be called that) ever!!!
>
> The only thing you know are reference books and theory that's been proven
> wrong in the real world
> You sit in front of your computer answering the SAME nickel and dime
> questions day after day, week after week, year after year so you can't
> possibly have any real experience in making an actual program and all you
> do
> is give BAD advice to those seeking it here.
>
> As far as I am concerned, Microsoft should end the MVP program as all that
> it fosters is wanna be programmers who only give bad advice and never DO
> as
> they ADVISE. You have essentially ZERO experience in coding .NET to begin
> with.
>
>
> DEAR MICROSOFT:
> Kill off the MVP program. It only fosters people who strive for publicity
> in
> trying to get a programming job as opposed to being actually able to do
> the
> job. The MVP's only make programmers and the software industry look bad
> as
> a whole as these people are supposed to be MOST VALUEABLE....when in they
> in
> fact are the MOST WORTHLESS programmers ever, especially when they
> actually
> do get a job they only sit around with theory, and all that nonsense of
> architecture and best practices only to not even deliver the project to
> begin with. Why not put all that theory and knowledge to the test and
> actually see if it really works? Ha ha ha..like you can even do that?
>
> All these people do is get silly certification and they STILL CANNOT GET A
> JOB!!! Much less actually do the job.....Imagine that!!! It's no wonder
> companies go off shore, as the quality of software sucks anyway, so why
> pay
> extra in the US when it's going to be late, buggy and not what the
> customer
> wanted anyway.
>
>
> MESSAGE TO MVP's:
> WAKE UP!!! START DOING SOME REAL WORK or someone will make sure the world
> knows how incompetent you MVP's are and if you think you will have a hard
> time now flashing your MVP and Certification letters around, wait till
> they
> know the real truth about you and will think twice about even mentioning
> you
> have a certification or MVP status......and no talking in front of user
> groups don't count as most those groups are also like you, unemployed,
> can't
> get the job done right.
>
>

Thank you for your insightful analysis and helpful suggestions. I'm sure
they will be read with great interest by Microsoft management and given all
the attention they deserve.


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Old 06-04-2005, 11:08 AM
Earl
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Default Re: A challenge to all MVP's.......GET A J.O.B. for once in your life

Frankly, I've often received better and more comprehensive advice from the
MVPs than I've gotten from Microsoft on most occasions. Creating a solution
takes a lot more experience and knowledge than just "coding in .Net". I'm
not sure what your beef is with the MVPs, but I think we would all be a lot
poorer without their insight and advice.



"lwti" <spamalot@msn.com> wrote in message
news:%23MTEbKPaFHA.228@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> You guys who hang around here are some of the sorriest and most
> incompetent
> programmers( if you can even be called that) ever!!!
>
> The only thing you know are reference books and theory that's been proven
> wrong in the real world
> You sit in front of your computer answering the SAME nickel and dime
> questions day after day, week after week, year after year so you can't
> possibly have any real experience in making an actual program and all you
> do
> is give BAD advice to those seeking it here.
>
> As far as I am concerned, Microsoft should end the MVP program as all that
> it fosters is wanna be programmers who only give bad advice and never DO
> as
> they ADVISE. You have essentially ZERO experience in coding .NET to begin
> with.
>
>
> DEAR MICROSOFT:
> Kill off the MVP program. It only fosters people who strive for publicity
> in
> trying to get a programming job as opposed to being actually able to do
> the
> job. The MVP's only make programmers and the software industry look bad
> as
> a whole as these people are supposed to be MOST VALUEABLE....when in they
> in
> fact are the MOST WORTHLESS programmers ever, especially when they
> actually
> do get a job they only sit around with theory, and all that nonsense of
> architecture and best practices only to not even deliver the project to
> begin with. Why not put all that theory and knowledge to the test and
> actually see if it really works? Ha ha ha..like you can even do that?
>
> All these people do is get silly certification and they STILL CANNOT GET A
> JOB!!! Much less actually do the job.....Imagine that!!! It's no wonder
> companies go off shore, as the quality of software sucks anyway, so why
> pay
> extra in the US when it's going to be late, buggy and not what the
> customer
> wanted anyway.
>
>
> MESSAGE TO MVP's:
> WAKE UP!!! START DOING SOME REAL WORK or someone will make sure the world
> knows how incompetent you MVP's are and if you think you will have a hard
> time now flashing your MVP and Certification letters around, wait till
> they
> know the real truth about you and will think twice about even mentioning
> you
> have a certification or MVP status......and no talking in front of user
> groups don't count as most those groups are also like you, unemployed,
> can't
> get the job done right.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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  #6  
Old 06-04-2005, 11:27 AM
james
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Default Re: A challenge to all MVP's..TROLL ALERT !!!

Known Troll who keeps posting his nonsense all over under different names. In fact he is such a coward he
cannot even post under his own name. Truely sad and a waste of bandwidth.

james

"lwti" <spamalot@msn.com> wrote in message news:%23MTEbKPaFHA.228@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> You guys who hang around here are some of the sorriest and most incompetent
> programmers( if you can even be called that) ever!!!
>
> The only thing you know are reference books and theory that's been proven
> wrong in the real world
> You sit in front of your computer answering the SAME nickel and dime
> questions day after day, week after week, year after year so you can't
> possibly have any real experience in making an actual program and all you do
> is give BAD advice to those seeking it here.
>
> As far as I am concerned, Microsoft should end the MVP program as all that
> it fosters is wanna be programmers who only give bad advice and never DO as
> they ADVISE. You have essentially ZERO experience in coding .NET to begin
> with.
>
>
> DEAR MICROSOFT:
> Kill off the MVP program. It only fosters people who strive for publicity in
> trying to get a programming job as opposed to being actually able to do the
> job. The MVP's only make programmers and the software industry look bad as
> a whole as these people are supposed to be MOST VALUEABLE....when in they in
> fact are the MOST WORTHLESS programmers ever, especially when they actually
> do get a job they only sit around with theory, and all that nonsense of
> architecture and best practices only to not even deliver the project to
> begin with. Why not put all that theory and knowledge to the test and
> actually see if it really works? Ha ha ha..like you can even do that?
>
> All these people do is get silly certification and they STILL CANNOT GET A
> JOB!!! Much less actually do the job.....Imagine that!!! It's no wonder
> companies go off shore, as the quality of software sucks anyway, so why pay
> extra in the US when it's going to be late, buggy and not what the customer
> wanted anyway.
>
>
> MESSAGE TO MVP's:
> WAKE UP!!! START DOING SOME REAL WORK or someone will make sure the world
> knows how incompetent you MVP's are and if you think you will have a hard
> time now flashing your MVP and Certification letters around, wait till they
> know the real truth about you and will think twice about even mentioning you
> have a certification or MVP status......and no talking in front of user
> groups don't count as most those groups are also like you, unemployed, can't
> get the job done right.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Old 06-04-2005, 11:30 AM
David
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Default Re: A challenge to all MVP's.......GET A J.O.B. for once in your life

I think you MVPs are the best, and I thank you for all of the help you've
give me (and everyone esle) over the years.
-David

"lwti" <spamalot@msn.com> wrote in message
news:%23MTEbKPaFHA.228@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> You guys who hang around here are some of the sorriest and most
> incompetent
> programmers( if you can even be called that) ever!!!
>
> The only thing you know are reference books and theory that's been proven
> wrong in the real world
> You sit in front of your computer answering the SAME nickel and dime
> questions day after day, week after week, year after year so you can't
> possibly have any real experience in making an actual program and all you
> do
> is give BAD advice to those seeking it here.
>
> As far as I am concerned, Microsoft should end the MVP program as all that
> it fosters is wanna be programmers who only give bad advice and never DO
> as
> they ADVISE. You have essentially ZERO experience in coding .NET to begin
> with.
>
>
> DEAR MICROSOFT:
> Kill off the MVP program. It only fosters people who strive for publicity
> in
> trying to get a programming job as opposed to being actually able to do
> the
> job. The MVP's only make programmers and the software industry look bad
> as
> a whole as these people are supposed to be MOST VALUEABLE....when in they
> in
> fact are the MOST WORTHLESS programmers ever, especially when they
> actually
> do get a job they only sit around with theory, and all that nonsense of
> architecture and best practices only to not even deliver the project to
> begin with. Why not put all that theory and knowledge to the test and
> actually see if it really works? Ha ha ha..like you can even do that?
>
> All these people do is get silly certification and they STILL CANNOT GET A
> JOB!!! Much less actually do the job.....Imagine that!!! It's no wonder
> companies go off shore, as the quality of software sucks anyway, so why
> pay
> extra in the US when it's going to be late, buggy and not what the
> customer
> wanted anyway.
>
>
> MESSAGE TO MVP's:
> WAKE UP!!! START DOING SOME REAL WORK or someone will make sure the world
> knows how incompetent you MVP's are and if you think you will have a hard
> time now flashing your MVP and Certification letters around, wait till
> they
> know the real truth about you and will think twice about even mentioning
> you
> have a certification or MVP status......and no talking in front of user
> groups don't count as most those groups are also like you, unemployed,
> can't
> get the job done right.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Old 06-04-2005, 11:38 AM
Joerg Jooss
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Default Re: A challenge to all MVP's.......GET A J.O.B. for once in your life

lwti wrote:

[...]

Feel free to post your CV.

Or is it String.Empty?
--
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  #9  
Old 06-04-2005, 11:48 AM
Jeffrey Todd
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Default Re: A challenge to all MVP's.......GET A J.O.B. for once in your life

I am personally grateful to a number of MVPs on this site - Ken Cox, Kevin
Spencer, Brock Allen, Curt Christenson, Karl Sequin, Steve C. Orr, Scott
Mitchell, and Bruce Barker. Without their advice, perspective, sample code,
and referenced articles or blogs I simply wouldn't have been able to succeed
as well or as quickly as I have in learning ASP.NET. When my customers or
programming peers see what I have created with ASP.NET and tell me how great
they think it is, I'm always very quick to mention that there is *no way* I
could have done it without the help of the MVPs in this NG.

Thank You MVPs!

-Jeff



"lwti" <spamalot@msn.com> wrote in message
news:%23MTEbKPaFHA.228@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> You guys who hang around here are some of the sorriest and most
> incompetent
> programmers( if you can even be called that) ever!!!
>
> The only thing you know are reference books and theory that's been proven
> wrong in the real world
> You sit in front of your computer answering the SAME nickel and dime
> questions day after day, week after week, year after year so you can't
> possibly have any real experience in making an actual program and all you
> do
> is give BAD advice to those seeking it here.
>
> As far as I am concerned, Microsoft should end the MVP program as all that
> it fosters is wanna be programmers who only give bad advice and never DO
> as
> they ADVISE. You have essentially ZERO experience in coding .NET to begin
> with.
>
>
> DEAR MICROSOFT:
> Kill off the MVP program. It only fosters people who strive for publicity
> in
> trying to get a programming job as opposed to being actually able to do
> the
> job. The MVP's only make programmers and the software industry look bad
> as
> a whole as these people are supposed to be MOST VALUEABLE....when in they
> in
> fact are the MOST WORTHLESS programmers ever, especially when they
> actually
> do get a job they only sit around with theory, and all that nonsense of
> architecture and best practices only to not even deliver the project to
> begin with. Why not put all that theory and knowledge to the test and
> actually see if it really works? Ha ha ha..like you can even do that?
>
> All these people do is get silly certification and they STILL CANNOT GET A
> JOB!!! Much less actually do the job.....Imagine that!!! It's no wonder
> companies go off shore, as the quality of software sucks anyway, so why
> pay
> extra in the US when it's going to be late, buggy and not what the
> customer
> wanted anyway.
>
>
> MESSAGE TO MVP's:
> WAKE UP!!! START DOING SOME REAL WORK or someone will make sure the world
> knows how incompetent you MVP's are and if you think you will have a hard
> time now flashing your MVP and Certification letters around, wait till
> they
> know the real truth about you and will think twice about even mentioning
> you
> have a certification or MVP status......and no talking in front of user
> groups don't count as most those groups are also like you, unemployed,
> can't
> get the job done right.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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  #10  
Old 06-04-2005, 12:08 PM
lwti
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Default Re: A challenge to all MVP's.......GET A J.O.B. for once in your life

This guy HAS a J.O.B. because M.V.P.'s are TOO STUPID to know that other
beginning programmers make money off of their nickel and dime questions/
answers. However, past the beginning part this is where, if he keeps taking
MVP's advice he will fail just like MVP's fail as they don't have JOB's
either



"Jeffrey Todd" <Me@Somewhere.net> wrote in message
news:O1jXIzRaFHA.2496@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> I am personally grateful to a number of MVPs on this site - Ken Cox, Kevin
> Spencer, Brock Allen, Curt Christenson, Karl Sequin, Steve C. Orr, Scott
> Mitchell, and Bruce Barker. Without their advice, perspective, sample

code,
> and referenced articles or blogs I simply wouldn't have been able to

succeed
> as well or as quickly as I have in learning ASP.NET. When my customers or
> programming peers see what I have created with ASP.NET and tell me how

great
> they think it is, I'm always very quick to mention that there is *no way*

I
> could have done it without the help of the MVPs in this NG.
>
> Thank You MVPs!
>
> -Jeff
>
>
>
> "lwti" <spamalot@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:%23MTEbKPaFHA.228@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > You guys who hang around here are some of the sorriest and most
> > incompetent
> > programmers( if you can even be called that) ever!!!
> >
> > The only thing you know are reference books and theory that's been

proven
> > wrong in the real world
> > You sit in front of your computer answering the SAME nickel and dime
> > questions day after day, week after week, year after year so you can't
> > possibly have any real experience in making an actual program and all

you
> > do
> > is give BAD advice to those seeking it here.
> >
> > As far as I am concerned, Microsoft should end the MVP program as all

that
> > it fosters is wanna be programmers who only give bad advice and never DO
> > as
> > they ADVISE. You have essentially ZERO experience in coding .NET to

begin
> > with.
> >
> >
> > DEAR MICROSOFT:
> > Kill off the MVP program. It only fosters people who strive for

publicity
> > in
> > trying to get a programming job as opposed to being actually able to do
> > the
> > job. The MVP's only make programmers and the software industry look bad
> > as
> > a whole as these people are supposed to be MOST VALUEABLE....when in

they
> > in
> > fact are the MOST WORTHLESS programmers ever, especially when they
> > actually
> > do get a job they only sit around with theory, and all that nonsense of
> > architecture and best practices only to not even deliver the project to
> > begin with. Why not put all that theory and knowledge to the test and
> > actually see if it really works? Ha ha ha..like you can even do that?
> >
> > All these people do is get silly certification and they STILL CANNOT GET

A
> > JOB!!! Much less actually do the job.....Imagine that!!! It's no

wonder
> > companies go off shore, as the quality of software sucks anyway, so why
> > pay
> > extra in the US when it's going to be late, buggy and not what the
> > customer
> > wanted anyway.
> >
> >
> > MESSAGE TO MVP's:
> > WAKE UP!!! START DOING SOME REAL WORK or someone will make sure the

world
> > knows how incompetent you MVP's are and if you think you will have a

hard
> > time now flashing your MVP and Certification letters around, wait till
> > they
> > know the real truth about you and will think twice about even mentioning
> > you
> > have a certification or MVP status......and no talking in front of user
> > groups don't count as most those groups are also like you, unemployed,
> > can't
> > get the job done right.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

>
>



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