Diversion of the White Rabbit!

Dearly beloved logicians, amature and pro among us,

We've been slaving in newsgroup all day and night over dry academic
subjects. I thought we could now have some amusement on logic at this
moment!

yesterday i discovered a song (while slaving (literally) in Second
Life) from the 1960s that is based on the book Alice In Wonderland.
The song is called White Rabbit by Jefferson Airplane.

I SO love it.

Of all books i've red in my life, may it be esoteric logic, math, text
books or philosophical transactions, may it be encyclopedia
britannica, may it be fictitious such as A Tale Of 2 Cities, may it be
poetry as of Emily Dickinson, may it be comics as Batman, may it be,
may it be, but of all the books, that i'm pressed to pick one book as
my favorite, that will be Alice In Wonderand and Tthru The Looking-
Glass.

[began unconsciously starting to write on (possible few thousands
words) my reasons ... but STOP!]

Ok, i don't mean to ramble, but what i wanted to say in this post, was
that i soooooo love the song. And, i spent about 30 min to write some
commentaries on the lyrics.

Without further ado, the HTML version with colors, youtube vid, links,
formatting, is at:
http://xahlee.org/Periodic_dosage_di...te_rabbit.html

Following is a plain text version.

Hope you enjoy it as much as i do.

------------------------------------------
White Rabbit

White Rabbit (song)↗ (1967) by Jefferson Airplane↗.

「• pill = Actually, pill doesn't appear in Wonderland. Itwas a drink
and a cake, and later mushroom, that makes Alice grow larger or
smaller. Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Chapter 1) �

One pill makes you larger
And one pill makes you small
And the ones that mother gives you
Don't do anything at all
Go ask Alice
When she's ten feet tall

「• rabbits = Alice chased a White Rabbit and fell into a hole, where
her dream-like adventure began. Alice's Adventures in Wonderland
(Chapter 1) �

「• caterpillar = The caterpillar is somewhat a mysterioussage-like
character, who smokes a hookah↗. He appeared in Chapter 4. Note that
caterpillar never gave Alice a call. �

And if you go chasing rabbits
And you know you're going to fall
Tell 'em a hookah smoking caterpillar
Has given you the call
Recall Alice
When she was just small

「• chessboard = Chess is not mentioned in the first book,but is a
central theme in the sequal. Through The Looking Glass (Chapter 1). �

「• mushroom = Mushroom appears first at the end of chapter 4, where
the caterpillar is sitting on one in chapter 5. The Caterpillar told
Alice that the mushroom: “One side will make you grow taller, and the
other side will make you grow shorter.�. Though, there's no indication
of which is which, as it is round. In subsequent chapters 6 and 7,
Alice kept the pieces of the mushroom in her pocket so she can nibble
it and grow or shrink at will. �

When men on the chessboard
Get up and tell you where to go
And you've just had some kind of mushroom
And your mind is moving slow
Go ask Alice
I think she'll know

「• logic = Logic is a central theme in Wonderland. Its author Lewis
Carroll is a logician. For example, here's a quote from Chapter 4
where the word “logic� in mentioned explicitly : «“Contrariwise,�
continued Tweedledee, “if it was so, it might be; and if it were so,
it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.�» �

「• White Knight = The Red Knight and White Knight are main charaters
in the Looking-glass. The Knights are most prominently featured in
Through The Looking Glass (Chapter 8). �

「• backwards = Backwards, as in reversal, inversion, mirroring, is a
central theme in Looking-glass. It implicitly applied to time, shape,
speech. For example, in Chapter 5, excerpt: «“That's the effect of
living backwards,� the Queen said kindly: “it always makes one a
little giddy at first—�» �

「• off with her head! = The Queen is a central character in
Wonderland. She is Queen of Hearts of playing card (thus “Red� Queen).
The Queen is found of execution by shouting “Off with his/her/their
head�, first spoke in Chapter 7, and said it the most in Chapter 8.In
Looking-glass, there's the White Queen and Red Queen (of Chess).
However, phrase “off with ... head� or execution didn't appear in
Looking-glass. In Looking-glass, Alice start as a pawn, and in the end
became a Queen herself too. �

「• dormouse = Dormouse is a main character in Chapter 7, and also
appeared in Chapter 11. The Dormouse is most of the time asleep or
dormant and in that state got manipulated or abused by the March Hare
and Mad Hatter. The dormouse never said “feed your head� oranything
like it. However, “feeding� and “head� are recurrent themes. �

When logic and proportion
Have fallen sloppy dead
And the White Knight is talking backwards
And the Red Queen's “off with her head!�
Remember what the dormouse said:
“FEED YOUR HEAD�

YouTube search: White Rabbit, Jefferson Airplane↗

What a greatest song!

See also: Wonderland Alice Art Gallery.

Xah
∑ http://xahlee.org/

☄

Here's the deal: you, Jefferson and Alice are all stoned.

On Jul 28, 1:16Â*am, "xah...@gmail.com" <xah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dearly beloved logicians, amature and pro among us,
>
> We've been slaving in newsgroup all day and night over dry academic
> subjects. I thought we could now have some amusement on logic at this
> moment!
>
> yesterday i discovered a song (while slaving (literally) in Second
> Life) from the 1960s that is based on the book Alice In Wonderland.
> The song is called White Rabbit by Jefferson Airplane.
>
> I SO love it.
>
> Of all books i've red in my life, may it be esoteric logic, math, text
> books or philosophical transactions, may it be encyclopedia
> britannica, may it be fictitious such as A Tale Of 2 Cities, may it be
> poetry as of Emily Dickinson, may it be comics as Batman, may it be,
> may it be, but of all the books, that i'm pressed to pick one book as
> my favorite, that will be Alice In Wonderand and Tthru The Looking-
> Glass.
>
> [began unconsciously starting to write on (possible few thousands
> words) my reasons ... but STOP!]
>
> Ok, i don't mean to ramble, but what i wanted to say in this post, was
> that i soooooo love the song. And, i spent about 30 min to write some
> commentaries on the lyrics.
>
> Without further ado, the HTML version with colors, youtube vid, links,
> formatting, is at:
> Â*http://xahlee.org/Periodic_dosage_di...te_rabbit.html
>
> Following is a plain text version.
>
> Hope you enjoy it as much as i do.
>
> ------------------------------------------
> White Rabbit
>
> White Rabbit (song)↗ (1967) by Jefferson Airplane↗.
>
> 「• pill = Actually, pill doesn't appear in Wonderland. It was a drink
> and a cake, and later mushroom, that makes Alice grow larger or
> smaller. Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Chapter 1) �
>
> One pill makes you larger
> And one pill makes you small
> And the ones that mother gives you
> Don't do anything at all
> Go ask Alice
> When she's ten feet tall
>
> 「• rabbits = Alice chased a White Rabbit and fell into a hole, where
> her dream-like adventure began. Alice's Adventures in Wonderland
> (Chapter 1) �
>
> 「• caterpillar = The caterpillar is somewhat a mysterious sage-like
> character, who smokes a hookah↗. He appeared in Chapter 4. Note that
> caterpillar never gave Alice a call. �
>
> And if you go chasing rabbits
> And you know you're going to fall
> Tell 'em a hookah smoking caterpillar
> Has given you the call
> Recall Alice
> When she was just small
>
> 「• chessboard = Chess is not mentioned in the first book, but is a
> central theme in the sequal. Through The Looking Glass (Chapter 1). �
>
> 「• mushroom = Mushroom appears first at the end of chapter 4, where
> the caterpillar is sitting on one in chapter 5. The Caterpillar told
> Alice that the mushroom: “One side will make you grow taller, andthe
> other side will make you grow shorter.�. Though, there's no indication
> of which is which, as it is round. In subsequent chapters 6 and 7,
> Alice kept the pieces of the mushroom in her pocket so she can nibble
> it and grow or shrink at will. �
>
> When men on the chessboard
> Get up and tell you where to go
> And you've just had some kind of mushroom
> And your mind is moving slow
> Go ask Alice
> I think she'll know
>
> 「• logic = Logic is a central theme in Wonderland. Its author Lewis
> Carroll is a logician. For example, here's a quote from Chapter 4
> where the word “logic� in mentioned explicitly : «“Contrariwise,�
> continued Tweedledee, “if it was so, it might be; and if it were so,
> it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.�» �
>
> 「• White Knight = The Red Knight and White Knight are main charaters
> in the Looking-glass. The Knights are most prominently featured in
> Through The Looking Glass (Chapter 8). �
>
> 「• backwards = Backwards, as in reversal, inversion, mirroring, is a
> central theme in Looking-glass. It implicitly applied to time, shape,
> speech. For example, in Chapter 5, excerpt: «“That's the effect of
> living backwards,� the Queen said kindly: “it always makes one a
> little giddy at first—�» �
>
> 「• off with her head! = The Queen is a central character in
> Wonderland. She is Queen of Hearts of playing card (thus “Red� Queen).
> The Queen is found of execution by shouting “Off with his/her/their
> head�, first spoke in Chapter 7, and said it the most in Chapter 8. In
> Looking-glass, there's the White Queen and Red Queen (of Chess).
> However, phrase “off with ... head� or execution didn't appear in
> Looking-glass. In Looking-glass, Alice start as a pawn, and in the end
> became a Queen herself too. �
>
> 「• dormouse = Dormouse is a main character in Chapter 7, and also
> appeared in Chapter 11. The Dormouse is most of the time asleep or
> dormant and in that state got manipulated or abused by the March Hare
> and Mad Hatter. The dormouse never said “feed your head� or anything
> like it. However, “feeding� and “head� are recurrent themes. �
>
> When logic and proportion
> Have fallen sloppy dead
> And the White Knight is talking backwards
> And the Red Queen's “off with her head!�
> Remember what the dormouse said:
> “FEED YOUR HEAD�
>
> YouTube search: White Rabbit, Jefferson Airplane↗
>
> What a greatest song!
>
> See also: Wonderland Alice Art Gallery.
>
> Â* Xah
> ∑http://xahlee.org/
>
> ☄

You know Lewis Carol was a logician and has a book on symbolic
logic ,There are alot of logical puns in Alice -Looking glass,my
favorite is Alice's conversation with Humpty Dumpty about birthdays
and unbirthdays .To show that unbirthdays are better Humpty asks Alice
to do the calculation 365-1 and when Alice tells Humpty the answer is
364 Humpty says hmm -well I would like to see that done on paper .
In her examination for Queen she is asked how much is 1+1+1+....
(said very fast) and Alice replies that she lost count ,the Queen
stares at her and says QUEENS NEVER LOSE COUNT. And when asked for the
French for fiddle dee dee .Alice says tell me what it means and I'll
give you the French for it ,the Queen says QUEENS NEVER MAKE BARGAINS.
After the Alice books my favorite Lewis Carol is The Hunting of the
Snark where the rules of inference are -I have said it once ,I have
said it twice,that alone should satisfy the crew .There I have said it
thrice ,and what I say three times is true.
smn

smn wrote:
> On Jul 28, 1:16 am, "xah...@gmail.com" <xah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dearly beloved logicians, amature and pro among us,
>>
>> We've been slaving in newsgroup all day and night over dry academic
>> subjects. I thought we could now have some amusement on logic at this
>> moment!
>>
>> yesterday i discovered a song (while slaving (literally) in Second
>> Life) from the 1960s that is based on the book Alice In Wonderland.
>> The song is called White Rabbit by Jefferson Airplane.
>>
>> I SO love it.
>>
>> Of all books i've red in my life, may it be esoteric logic, math, text
>> books or philosophical transactions, may it be encyclopedia
>> britannica, may it be fictitious such as A Tale Of 2 Cities, may it be
>> poetry as of Emily Dickinson, may it be comics as Batman, may it be,
>> may it be, but of all the books, that i'm pressed to pick one book as
>> my favorite, that will be Alice In Wonderand and Tthru The Looking-
>> Glass.
>>
>> [began unconsciously starting to write on (possible few thousands
>> words) my reasons ... but STOP!]
>>
>> Ok, i don't mean to ramble, but what i wanted to say in this post, was
>> that i soooooo love the song. And, i spent about 30 min to write some
>> commentaries on the lyrics.
>>
>> Without further ado, the HTML version with colors, youtube vid, links,
>> formatting, is at:
>> http://xahlee.org/Periodic_dosage_di...te_rabbit.html
>>
>> Following is a plain text version.
>>
>> Hope you enjoy it as much as i do.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------
>> White Rabbit
>>
>> White Rabbit (song)↗ (1967) by Jefferson Airplane↗.
>>
>> 「• pill = Actually, pill doesn't appear in Wonderland. It was a drink
>> and a cake, and later mushroom, that makes Alice grow larger or
>> smaller. Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Chapter 1) �
>>
>> One pill makes you larger
>> And one pill makes you small
>> And the ones that mother gives you
>> Don't do anything at all
>> Go ask Alice
>> When she's ten feet tall
>>
>> 「• rabbits = Alice chased a White Rabbit and fell into a hole, where
>> her dream-like adventure began. Alice's Adventures in Wonderland
>> (Chapter 1) �
>>
>> 「• caterpillar = The caterpillar is somewhat a mysterious sage-like
>> character, who smokes a hookah↗. He appeared in Chapter 4. Note that
>> caterpillar never gave Alice a call. �
>>
>> And if you go chasing rabbits
>> And you know you're going to fall
>> Tell 'em a hookah smoking caterpillar
>> Has given you the call
>> Recall Alice
>> When she was just small
>>
>> 「• chessboard = Chess is not mentioned in the first book, but is a
>> central theme in the sequal. Through The Looking Glass (Chapter 1). �
>>
>> 「• mushroom = Mushroom appears first at the end of chapter 4, where
>> the caterpillar is sitting on one in chapter 5. The Caterpillar told
>> Alice that the mushroom: “One side will make you grow taller, and the
>> other side will make you grow shorter.�. Though, there's no indication
>> of which is which, as it is round. In subsequent chapters 6 and 7,
>> Alice kept the pieces of the mushroom in her pocket so she can nibble
>> it and grow or shrink at will. �
>>
>> When men on the chessboard
>> Get up and tell you where to go
>> And you've just had some kind of mushroom
>> And your mind is moving slow
>> Go ask Alice
>> I think she'll know
>>
>> 「• logic = Logic is a central theme in Wonderland. Its author Lewis
>> Carroll is a logician. For example, here's a quote from Chapter 4
>> where the word “logic� in mentioned explicitly : «“Contrariwise,�
>> continued Tweedledee, “if it was so, it might be; and if it were so,
>> it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.�» �
>>
>> 「• White Knight = The Red Knight and White Knight are main charaters
>> in the Looking-glass. The Knights are most prominently featured in
>> Through The Looking Glass (Chapter 8). �
>>
>> 「• backwards = Backwards, as in reversal, inversion, mirroring, is a
>> central theme in Looking-glass. It implicitly applied to time, shape,
>> speech. For example, in Chapter 5, excerpt: «“That's the effect of
>> living backwards,� the Queen said kindly: “it always makes one a
>> little giddy at first—�» �
>>
>> 「• off with her head! = The Queen is a central character in
>> Wonderland. She is Queen of Hearts of playing card (thus “Red� Queen).
>> The Queen is found of execution by shouting “Off with his/her/their
>> head�, first spoke in Chapter 7, and said it the most in Chapter 8. In
>> Looking-glass, there's the White Queen and Red Queen (of Chess).
>> However, phrase “off with ... head� or execution didn't appear in
>> Looking-glass. In Looking-glass, Alice start as a pawn, and in the end
>> became a Queen herself too. �
>>
>> 「• dormouse = Dormouse is a main character in Chapter 7, and also
>> appeared in Chapter 11. The Dormouse is most of the time asleep or
>> dormant and in that state got manipulated or abused by the March Hare
>> and Mad Hatter. The dormouse never said “feed your head� or anything
>> like it. However, “feeding� and “head� are recurrent themes. �
>>
>> When logic and proportion
>> Have fallen sloppy dead
>> And the White Knight is talking backwards
>> And the Red Queen's “off with her head!�
>> Remember what the dormouse said:
>> “FEED YOUR HEAD�
>>
>> YouTube search: White Rabbit, Jefferson Airplane↗
>>
>> What a greatest song!
>>
>> See also: Wonderland Alice Art Gallery.
>>
>> Xah
>> ∑http://xahlee.org/
>>
>> ☄
>
> You know Lewis Carol was a logician and has a book on symbolic
> logic ,There are alot of logical puns in Alice -Looking glass,my
> favorite is Alice's conversation with Humpty Dumpty about birthdays
> and unbirthdays .To show that unbirthdays are better Humpty asks Alice
> to do the calculation 365-1 and when Alice tells Humpty the answer is
> 364 Humpty says hmm -well I would like to see that done on paper .
> In her examination for Queen she is asked how much is 1+1+1+....
> (said very fast) and Alice replies that she lost count ,the Queen
> stares at her and says QUEENS NEVER LOSE COUNT. And when asked for the
> French for fiddle dee dee .Alice says tell me what it means and I'll
> give you the French for it ,the Queen says QUEENS NEVER MAKE BARGAINS.

How abour?:

`Take some more tea,' the March Hare said to Alice, very earnestly.

`I've had nothing yet,' Alice replied in an offended tone, `so I can't
take more.'

`You mean you can't take less,' said the Hatter: `it's very easy to take
more than nothing.'

From http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rgs/alice-VII.html, former workplace of
Randy Pausch, creator of Alice. Hmmm...

That page suggests to from me where Usenet got its style guide.
Meanwhile, back in Nazi America...

> After the Alice books my favorite Lewis Carol is The Hunting of the
> Snark where the rules of inference are -I have said it once ,I have
> said it twice,that alone should satisfy the crew .There I have said it
> thrice ,and what I say three times is true.
> smn

....the exact passage cited by the Supreme Court in ruling against the
Bushtapo on the Gitmo concentration camps.

kxo

On Jul 29, 11:08 am, Kenny <kentil...@gmail.com> wrote:

> `Take some more tea,' the March Hare said to Alice, very earnestly.
>
> `I've had nothing yet,' Alice replied in an offended tone, `so I can't
> take more.'
>
> `You mean you can't take less,' said the Hatter: `it's very easy to take
> more than nothing.'
>
> From http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rgs/alice-VII.html , former workplace of
> Randy Pausch, creator of Alice. Hmmm...
>
> That page suggests to from me where Usenet got its style guide.

Great quote and comparison! LOL.

Btw, it's chapter 7, A Mad Tea-Party, of Alice in Wonderland,
available at:

http://xahlee.org/p/alice/alice-ch07.html

why didn't use my page Kenny? Support me (more) please!

> Meanwhile, back in Nazi America...
>
> > After the Alice books my favorite Lewis Carol is The Hunting of the
> > Snark where the rules of inference are -I have said it once ,I have
> > said it twice,that alone should satisfy the crew .There I have said it
> > thrice ,and what I say three times is true.
> > smn
>
> ...the exact passage cited by the Supreme Court in ruling against the
> Bushtapo on the Gitmo concentration camps.
>
> kxo

Hey, arn't you being un-patriotic?

Xah
∑ http://xahlee.org/

☄

xahlee@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 29, 11:08 am, Kenny <kentil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Meanwhile, back in Nazi America...
>>
>>> After the Alice books my favorite Lewis Carol is The Hunting of the
>>> Snark where the rules of inference are -I have said it once ,I have
>>> said it twice,that alone should satisfy the crew .There I have said it
>>> thrice ,and what I say three times is true.
>>> smn
>> ...the exact passage cited by the Supreme Court in ruling against the
>> Bushtapo on the Gitmo concentration camps.
>>
>> kxo
>
> Hey, arn't you being un-patriotic?

Oh, you would love it when I do not stand during the National Anthem. At
football games. That group is known for its solid grasp of subtle
Consitutional protections.

Speaking of assholes at large events, my earlier suggestion of the dull
as those most deserving of being banished reminded me of the time I saw
a Rangers hockey game from the blue (cheap) seats at the Garden and some
guy yelled out "Rangers suck" once a minute for the entire game. You
think I am exaggerating and you are wrong.

I understood I was honor-bound to engage the gentleman in a brawl, but I
was not really a fan, I just decided to go to that game, so my heart
would not have been in it. (To our section's disgrace someone had to
come over from a different section to give our bore what he obviously
was after.) I had, however, been tempted to address him at some point
and say that I really had no bone to pick with his disparagement of the
home team, but did he have to be so grindingly dull about it?

Where /is/ Jon?

Now that I think on it, I wish I had.

"I say, old chap, could you be a little less repetitious in your
excorciation of our hapless team?"

"Hunh?"

"Well, you just keep saying they suck over and over again. A little
variety would alleviate the tediousness of your conduct without
impinging at all on your right to your opinion."

"Shut the fuck up."

"Well, there's a start, good for you, a bit threadbare but at least you
did not say, 'You suck."

"Rangers suck!"

"Ah, case in point..."

kt