Which Sager laptop? - Hardware

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Which Sager laptop?

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    I am trying to choose between two Sager laptops from
    Powernotebooks.com. My 2 choices are $900 difference. I'd like some
    feedback about which one is a better deal. I am very interested in
    playing Half-Life 2 and DOOM 3.
    The differences are:

    Sager NP4750 Force - $2,660
    Athlon 64 3700
    ATI 9700 128MB
    100 GB Hard Drive

    Sager NP9860 Force - $3,518
    Pentium 4 3.6 Ghz
    Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
    nVidia GeForce Go 6800 256MB
    200GB Hard Drive (2x100)

    Everything else is identical.

    I'm not particularly looking for opinions on Sager or
    Powernotebooks.com. I just want opinions on those four different
    configurations.
    Opinions please.
    Thanks.


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    ckacosta@hotmail.com wrote:
    > I am trying to choose between two Sager laptops from
    > Powernotebooks.com. My 2 choices are $900 difference. I'd like some
    > feedback about which one is a better deal. I am very interested in
    > playing Half-Life 2 and DOOM 3.
    > The differences are:
    >
    > Sager NP4750 Force - $2,660
    > Athlon 64 3700
    > ATI 9700 128MB
    > 100 GB Hard Drive
    >
    > Sager NP9860 Force - $3,518
    > Pentium 4 3.6 Ghz
    > Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
    > nVidia GeForce Go 6800 256MB
    > 200GB Hard Drive (2x100)
    >
    > Everything else is identical.
    >
    > I'm not particularly looking for opinions on Sager or
    > Powernotebooks.com. I just want opinions on those four different
    > configurations.
    > Opinions please.
    > Thanks.


    FWIW, a state-of-the-Intel-art P4 in a notebook is an oxymoron. This
    will need a huge heat pipe cooler and large capacity fan(s). It will
    need barriers around the exhaust cooling air to prevent burns if it is
    not connected to an oven as the heat medium. Battery capacity can
    likely be measured in minutes. It will need its own isolated AC power
    with fan motor starters to prevent brownout in the house or office. The
    power company will want to install separate metering so they can
    effectively control the output from the generating station. It might
    need its own electrical switch station, depending on the age of the
    neighborhood power system. The operating area will of necessity require
    ANSI-certified hearing protection from the fan noise. All this and LOOK
    AT THE PRICE! This laptop must be able to make dinner and do the
    washing! For the price one can get a really good Centrino and buy
    another for a spare! As an aside, do you think the entire unit is
    silvered?

    Are you certain that this is not an April Fool's joke? I'll be
    monitoring notebookforums.com for the user experience at six months. It
    should be a riot as the units melt down. OTOH, maybe the laptop comes
    with water cooling and a supporting evaporative cooling tower? Does
    Sager note anything about an industrial facility license?

    Q



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    Quaoar wrote:
    > FWIW, a state-of-the-Intel-art P4 in a notebook is an oxymoron. This
    > will need a huge heat pipe cooler and large capacity fan(s). It will
    > need barriers around the exhaust cooling air to prevent burns if it is
    > not connected to an oven as the heat medium. Battery capacity can
    > likely be measured in minutes. It will need its own isolated AC power
    > with fan motor starters to prevent brownout in the house or office. The
    > power company will want to install separate metering so they can
    > effectively control the output from the generating station. It might
    > need its own electrical switch station, depending on the age of the
    > neighborhood power system. The operating area will of necessity require
    > ANSI-certified hearing protection from the fan noise.


    I wear those hearing protectors like you see on the guys servicing
    planes on aircraft carriers, so the fan noise is not really a factor.

    The battery is able to power the system for 10 to 20 milliseconds,
    easily able to handle any power spikes without a UPS (although truth be
    told I have a 3-rack APC-power Xtructure "just in case").

    Portablitiy is also not a problem, since everything nicely fits into the
    tractor trailer rig parked in front of the house, with room to spare for
    a couple of extra mousepads.

    We installed a cooling tower on the roof for my Toshiba P25. But really
    that is just for backup cooling since I am pumping liquid helium through
    the laptop enclosure at a rate of .5 gallons per second.

    However, this once caused my tongue to get stuck to the touchpad... but
    that's another story...

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