laptops are made by only 3 manufacturers ? - Hardware

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>>>>>>>>>> "pogo" <pogo@nopogo.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>>>>> Hello.
>>>>>>>>>>> I read at the Gen-X website that laptops are really made by only
>>>>>>>>>>> 3 manufacturers in general. Does anyone know for sure if this is
>>>>>>>>>>> true or just a lot of hype by Gen-X ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also, any reports on experiences in dealing with them would be
>>>>>>>>>>> nice.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks !
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> F*CKING SPAMMER
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Honu
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Man, I am about the most anti-spam person you will ever meet. I am
>>>>>>>>> just asking for an opinion on these people's claims. Why do you
>>>>>>>>> call me a spammer ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because when you post SPAM, that makes *you* a spammer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Honu
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where the heck is SPAM in my post, you idiot ? You mean the website
>>>>>>> link ? There are plenty of other posts on here with website links -
>>>>>>> it's just an inquiry to see if anyone else has experience with these
>>>>>>> guys and to see if the info is accurate or not. By the way, I don't
>>>>>>> see YOU helping anyone else out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You post a link to a website selling laptops. The website does not
>>>>>> have the "claim" that you cited.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are a spammer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the future, post the link to the exact page that you are posting
>>>>>> about.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How much did you get paid for spamming that website?
>>>>>
>>>>> If you will go to this page on the website, you will see what I am
>>>>> talking about: /laptopmanu.htm
>>>>> Notice that I did not post the URL again. Websites do get changed, you
>>>>> know, and the claim I mentioned *was* at the URL posted.
>>>>> Now it is moved. I wanted to see what other say about the claim to see
>>>>> if it is worth buying a laptop from these guys.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did not get paid anything by anyone because I did not post it for
>>>>> the reason you assumed. I am interested in buying one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now go play with yourself like a nice little moron.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah.....right....
>>>>> Honu
>>> Right ? So you agree that you are a moron, then ?
>>
>> How very childish.
>> You spammed the newsgroup.
>> You start acting like a spoiled little girl when someone calls you on it.
>> Grow up.
>> Stop spamming.
>> Honu
>
> Yeah that's pretty funny - calling me the childish one when YOU showed
> your lack of vocabulary by using disguised profanity in your very first
> response.
>
> Did you even check the new web page for the so-called "claims" I was
> asking about? I've seen other posts on here that were obvious spams - with
> multiple URLs in the message. More importantly, can you even answer the
> original question I asked ? Are the laptops made by 3 - 4 primary
> manufacturers as claimed on the web page, or is it just a bunch of hype?
> Which is it ? Can you even formulate a polite, intelligent answer ?
>
> How old are you ? About 12 maybe ? Younger ? Yep I'm guessing maybe 10. At
> least intellectually. In this particular newsgroup all I've ever seen you
> do is argue with someone. Have you ever actually helped anyone out ? Why
> are you here ? Does it make you feel special to attempt to demonstrate how
> intelligent you are ?
>
> Whew! Gimme a break!
>

Must of hit a nerve!

If you are going to spam newsgroups, you need to have a thick skin.

Next time, at least try to be a little creative.

Honu

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>>>>>>>> "Hertz_Donut" <somewhere@outhere.net> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>>>> "Hertz_Donut" <somewhere@outhere.net> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>>>>> "pogo" <pogo@nopogo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:d2_Li.315$Ri7.197@newsfe06.lga...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I read at the Gen-X website that laptops are really made by
>>>>>>>>>>>> only 3 manufacturers in general. Does anyone know for sure if
>>>>>>>>>>>> this is true or just a lot of hype by Gen-X ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, any reports on experiences in dealing with them would be
>>>>>>>>>>>> nice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks !
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> F*CKING SPAMMER
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Honu
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Man, I am about the most anti-spam person you will ever meet. I
>>>>>>>>>> am just asking for an opinion on these people's claims. Why do
>>>>>>>>>> you call me a spammer ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Because when you post SPAM, that makes *you* a spammer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Honu
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Where the heck is SPAM in my post, you idiot ? You mean the website
>>>>>>>> link ? There are plenty of other posts on here with website links -
>>>>>>>> it's just an inquiry to see if anyone else has experience with
>>>>>>>> these guys and to see if the info is accurate or not. By the way, I
>>>>>>>> don't see YOU helping anyone else out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You post a link to a website selling laptops. The website does not
>>>>>>> have the "claim" that you cited.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are a spammer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the future, post the link to the exact page that you are posting
>>>>>>> about.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How much did you get paid for spamming that website?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you will go to this page on the website, you will see what I am
>>>>>> talking about: /laptopmanu.htm
>>>>>> Notice that I did not post the URL again. Websites do get changed,
>>>>>> you know, and the claim I mentioned *was* at the URL posted.
>>>>>> Now it is moved. I wanted to see what other say about the claim to
>>>>>> see if it is worth buying a laptop from these guys.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did not get paid anything by anyone because I did not post it for
>>>>>> the reason you assumed. I am interested in buying one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now go play with yourself like a nice little moron.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah.....right....
>>>>>> Honu
>>>> Right ? So you agree that you are a moron, then ?
>>>
>>> How very childish.
>>> You spammed the newsgroup.
>>> You start acting like a spoiled little girl when someone calls you on
>>> it.
>>> Grow up.
>>> Stop spamming.
>>> Honu
>>
>> Yeah that's pretty funny - calling me the childish one when YOU showed
>> your lack of vocabulary by using disguised profanity in your very first
>> response.
>>
>> Did you even check the new web page for the so-called "claims" I was
>> asking about? I've seen other posts on here that were obvious spams -
>> with multiple URLs in the message. More importantly, can you even answer
>> the original question I asked ? Are the laptops made by 3 - 4 primary
>> manufacturers as claimed on the web page, or is it just a bunch of hype?
>> Which is it ? Can you even formulate a polite, intelligent answer ?
>>
>> How old are you ? About 12 maybe ? Younger ? Yep I'm guessing maybe 10.
>> At least intellectually. In this particular newsgroup all I've ever seen
>> you do is argue with someone. Have you ever actually helped anyone out ?
>> Why are you here ? Does it make you feel special to attempt to
>> demonstrate how intelligent you are ?
>>
>> Whew! Gimme a break!
>
> Must of hit a nerve!
> If you are going to spam newsgroups, you need to have a thick skin.
> Next time, at least try to be a little creative.
> Honu

Nawww. I'm just continually amazed that you're too dumb to realize that I
was not spamming anyone.
Just trying to get an answer to a question - which I notice you are still
ignoring.
Whatever, bub. The fact is - this single thread is the closest I have ever
come to spamming on purpose:
a silly stupid flame-war. But it has been fun!

>
> Nawww. I'm just continually amazed that you're too dumb to realize that I
> was not spamming anyone.
> Just trying to get an answer to a question - which I notice you are still
> ignoring.
> Whatever, bub. The fact is - this single thread is the closest I have ever
> come to spamming on purpose:
> a silly stupid flame-war. But it has been fun!
>



1. You posted a website that sells computers to a Usenet newsgroup.
2. The website you posted did not have the information you cited in your
post.

When you post a commercial website selling things to a Usenet group, it is
*SPAMMING*.

Next time, post a link to the exact information that you are posting about,
not to a commercial retail website.

And no, there are not only 3 laptop manufacturers in the world.

Honu

"Hertz_Donut" <somewhere@outhere.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> Nawww. I'm just continually amazed that you're too dumb to realize that I
>> was not spamming anyone.
>> Just trying to get an answer to a question - which I notice you are still
>> ignoring.
>> Whatever, bub. The fact is - this single thread is the closest I have
>> ever come to spamming on purpose:
>> a silly stupid flame-war. But it has been fun!
>
> 1. You posted a website that sells computers to a Usenet newsgroup.
> 2. The website you posted did not have the information you cited in your
> post.
>
> When you post a commercial website selling things to a Usenet group, it is
> *SPAMMING*.
>
> Next time, post a link to the exact information that you are posting
> about, not to a commercial retail website.
>
> And no, there are not only 3 laptop manufacturers in the world.

Well thanks for finally answering my original question. And yep - I could
have made this whole discussion much shorter if I had posted the actual info
instead of an URL containing the info. But, seriously, I have been using
Usenet groups for almost as long as they have been around, and have never
been called a spammer because I posted a *single* commercial URL. I even do
it quite often to let people in certain newsgroups know of a place to buy
particular kinds of items - although I guess in most of those they already
know me and know I am not there to spam. In this case I am simply trying to
get some information.

With all that in mind, here is the text from the web page I had hoped people
would find by going to the URL I posted:

"Basically none of the "Name Brand" manufacture their own laptops. The few
notable exceptions are Sony, Acer and Apple. Yet, they even do not
manufacture all of their own laptops. All of the so called manufacturers buy
their laptops from what is called an Original Design Manufacturer (ODM).
ODM - Original Design Manufacturers
ODMs are the true manufacturers who actually design, cast, and assemble the
main unit which includes the motherboard, outside casing, and display. A few
examples of ODMs are Quanta, Compal, Clevo, Mitac, Asus, Acer, Arima,
Uniwill (now ECS/Uniwill) -- perhaps you have never heard of these companies
before. But you have definitely seen their systems under other well known
brand names. ODMs are usually located somewhere in Asia, and may have
distribution centers in the US. ODMs distribute their product to Original
Equipment Manufacturers (OEMs). Each ODM sells its computers to many
different OEMs.

OEM's - Original Equipment Manufacturers
OEMs add the Memory, Processor, Hard Drive, Optical Drives and software to
the systems. The OEMs perform final assembly and stick their label (Brand)
to it, and call themselves manufacturers. Their products are then sold
directly to dealers/resellers like [INSERT BRAND NAME HERE] or directly to
the public (i.e. DELL). However most companies such as Dell and HP etc. have
their laptops assembled in Asia. Our OEMs are in the USA, assembled in the
USA and our 24 hour 7 days a week Toll Free Tech Support is 100% USA. Once
these companies add in these components, they have a complete laptop. They
then put their label on it and market it.

For example:
Clevo makes the Sager NP5960 and the Alienware Aurora mALX, the Voodoo
MClass M550, the Hypersonic Sonic Aviator, and they are all the same
computer.
An ODM named Compal makes some of the the DELL, Hewlett Packard and Compaq.
Quanta makes many of the Dell Latitude, Lenovo (IBM), and Sony Vaio laptops.

Inventec makes many of the Compaq brands.

Clevo makes most of the models sold by Sager Computer. Clevo is usually
first and on the cutting edge when it comes to gaming laptops.
"

"pogo" <pogo@nopogo.com> wrote in message
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> "Hertz_Donut" <somewhere@outhere.net> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> Nawww. I'm just continually amazed that you're too dumb to realize that
>>> I was not spamming anyone.
>>> Just trying to get an answer to a question - which I notice you are
>>> still ignoring.
>>> Whatever, bub. The fact is - this single thread is the closest I have
>>> ever come to spamming on purpose:
>>> a silly stupid flame-war. But it has been fun!
>>
>> 1. You posted a website that sells computers to a Usenet newsgroup.
>> 2. The website you posted did not have the information you cited in your
>> post.
>>
>> When you post a commercial website selling things to a Usenet group, it
>> is *SPAMMING*.
>>
>> Next time, post a link to the exact information that you are posting
>> about, not to a commercial retail website.
>>
>> And no, there are not only 3 laptop manufacturers in the world.
>
> Well thanks for finally answering my original question. And yep - I could
> have made this whole discussion much shorter if I had posted the actual
> info instead of an URL containing the info. But, seriously, I have been
> using Usenet groups for almost as long as they have been around, and have
> never been called a spammer because I posted a *single* commercial URL. I
> even do it quite often to let people in certain newsgroups know of a place
> to buy particular kinds of items - although I guess in most of those they
> already know me and know I am not there to spam. In this case I am simply
> trying to get some information.
>
> With all that in mind, here is the text from the web page I had hoped
> people would find by going to the URL I posted:
>
> "Basically none of the "Name Brand" manufacture their own laptops. The few
> notable exceptions are Sony, Acer and Apple. Yet, they even do not
> manufacture all of their own laptops. All of the so called manufacturers
> buy their laptops from what is called an Original Design Manufacturer
> (ODM).
> ODM - Original Design Manufacturers
> ODMs are the true manufacturers who actually design, cast, and assemble
> the main unit which includes the motherboard, outside casing, and display.
> A few examples of ODMs are Quanta, Compal, Clevo, Mitac, Asus, Acer,
> Arima, Uniwill (now ECS/Uniwill) -- perhaps you have never heard of these
> companies before. But you have definitely seen their systems under other
> well known brand names. ODMs are usually located somewhere in Asia, and
> may have distribution centers in the US. ODMs distribute their product to
> Original Equipment Manufacturers (OEMs). Each ODM sells its computers to
> many different OEMs.
>
> OEM's - Original Equipment Manufacturers
> OEMs add the Memory, Processor, Hard Drive, Optical Drives and software to
> the systems. The OEMs perform final assembly and stick their label (Brand)
> to it, and call themselves manufacturers. Their products are then sold
> directly to dealers/resellers like [INSERT BRAND NAME HERE] or directly to
> the public (i.e. DELL). However most companies such as Dell and HP etc.
> have their laptops assembled in Asia. Our OEMs are in the USA, assembled
> in the USA and our 24 hour 7 days a week Toll Free Tech Support is 100%
> USA. Once these companies add in these components, they have a complete
> laptop. They then put their label on it and market it.
>
> For example:
> Clevo makes the Sager NP5960 and the Alienware Aurora mALX, the Voodoo
> MClass M550, the Hypersonic Sonic Aviator, and they are all the same
> computer.
> An ODM named Compal makes some of the the DELL, Hewlett Packard and
> Compaq.
> Quanta makes many of the Dell Latitude, Lenovo (IBM), and Sony Vaio
> laptops.
>
> Inventec makes many of the Compaq brands.
>
> Clevo makes most of the models sold by Sager Computer. Clevo is usually
> first and on the cutting edge when it comes to gaming laptops.
> "
>



So, your justification is "I was too lazy to post the actual URL I was
talking about" and "I have been doing it this way for a long time and I
ain't gonna change now"?

The page in question is somewhat inaccurate in several respects, and is
apparently an attempt by the author to garner favor from the OEMS he deals
with by painting them in a favorable fashion.


FYI...I have an HP laptop with a Quanta MB. I have a Dell with a Compal MB.
My wife has a Sony with a verio motherboard.

OEMS will use what best suits their specs at the price points they are
willing to pay. This means that they do not often stay with a single
supplier.

All of this could have been avoided by your doing a simple Google search.

Alternately, it could have been avoided by your asking about the 3
manufacturers without posting a commercial website.

It still smells of SPAM.

Honu

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>>>>

[snipped by me. See previous posts for content ... ]

>
> All of this could have been avoided by your doing a simple Google search.
>
> Alternately, it could have been avoided by your asking about the 3
> manufacturers without posting a commercial website.
>
> It still smells of SPAM.

I FOUND the URL using Google.
Yep - I wish I had asked about the 3 manufacturers instead. If only I had
been *asked* to do so earlier ...
You're still wrong about the spam. Grow up a little. Bet your wife would
appreciate it.