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I wish *Thunderbird* supported all IMAP extensions

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    Hi,

    I sometimes use Thunderbird to check my IMAP mailbox and I find it nice.

    What I know is Thunderbird supports IDLE and QUOTA. ACL is not fully
    supported: we can see the ACL but it is impossible to manage them - I've
    never been able to manage them with Thunderbird or Mozilla.

    If ACL are not managable now, is it planned to improve Thunderbird on
    this point ?

    IMAP keywords (ANNOTATE[MORE]) are now supported as Nancy McGough wrote
    it on 2004 July 8.
    http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/imap/isps/#news
    Unfortunately Thunderbird supports only 5 labels.

    Is the *Bugzilla Bug 114656* goona be fixed soon ? So that we could get
    an infinite number of labels. More over, it could be great to add
    different labels to one mail with other characteristics, like background
    and foreground colours, bold, italic, strike and underline.
    With Mulberry I can label a mail with 'Sent' and 'Usenet'; with
    Thunderbird
    I can mark a message only with one label.

    What about IMAP urls (RFC 2192) and URLAUTH
    (internet-drafts/draft-crispin-imap-urlauth-09.txt) ?
    If we right-click on an IMAP folder, we can 'Copy the location folder'
    and write an IMAP url; but is it impossible to use them as it is
    possible with NEWS or NNTP urls, so that we could configurate a server
    on a client, access to a mailbox as we can with
    news://news.uslinuxtraining.com/comp.mail.imap ,
    or even extract a message or a part of a message.

    My IMAP mailbox contains 550 folders and it's getting to be a huge
    library of different kind of informations. With Thunderbird it is
    possible to search for a message into a folder and their subfolders
    without need to download any message previously! OE doesn't support it !
    ;o)

    It could be great to improve the search tool so that we can search for
    labeled messages.

    May theses wishes become reality.

    --
    kael | *Les pieds sur Terre et la tête dans les étoiles*


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    On 30 Jul 2004 kael (kael@alussinan.org) wrote:
    >
    > I sometimes use Thunderbird to check my IMAP mailbox and I find it nice.


    What do you use as your primary IMAP client kael?


    > If ACL are not managable now, is it planned to improve Thunderbird on
    > this point ?


    I recommend that you try Mulberry, which supports ACL management,
    and was designed from the beginning to be an IMAP client. I've
    tried to use and like Mozilla Mail/News and Thunderbird, but
    currently they both pretty much suck as *power* IMAP clients
    (IMHO of course).


    > May theses wishes become reality.


    I agree -- it would be great if there were a good FLOSS power
    IMAP client. For now there seems to be only Mulberry and Pine,
    neither of which are FLOSS (Free/Libre Open Source Software).


    Nancy
    Infinite Ink
    www.ii.com

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    Hi Nancy,

    "Nancy McGough" <nm-reverse-spam-filter@ii.deflexion.com> a écrit dans
    le message de news:Pine.OSX.4.61.0407310752590.1179@localhost

    > What do you use as your primary IMAP client kael?


    It depends on what I want but generally I use Outlook Express - lol. But
    I also use Mulberry. Because like you I'm not satisfied of any IMAP
    client.

    > > If ACL are not managable now, is it planned to improve Thunderbird

    on
    > > this point ?

    >
    > I recommend that you try Mulberry, which supports ACL management,
    > and was designed from the beginning to be an IMAP client. I've
    > tried to use and like Mozilla Mail/News and Thunderbird, but
    > currently they both pretty much suck as *power* IMAP clients
    > (IMHO of course).


    In a way... But Mulberry is excellent except graphically. The
    Thunderbird Team could inspire of it to build the next Thunderbird
    generations.

    > > May theses wishes become reality.

    >
    > I agree -- it would be great if there were a good FLOSS power
    > IMAP client. For now there seems to be only Mulberry and Pine,
    > neither of which are FLOSS (Free/Libre Open Source Software).


    Mulberry is not FLOSS ! It costs 30 $ or something like that...

    I hope Thunderbird is gonna become the best IMAP client soon.

    --
    kael | *Les pieds sur Terre et la Tête dans les étoiles*


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    On 31 Jul 2004 kael (kael@alussinan.org) wrote:
    >> I agree -- it would be great if there were a good FLOSS power
    >> IMAP client. For now there seems to be only Mulberry and Pine,
    >> neither of which are FLOSS (Free/Libre Open Source Software).

    >
    > Mulberry is not FLOSS ! It costs 30 $ or something like that...


    That's what I said - neither Mulberry nor Pine are FLOSS. BTW,
    the term "free/libre" doesn't have anything to do with financial
    cost, it has to do with freedom (liberté). Often FLOSS software
    is free/gratis because the freedom to redistribute it drives the
    price down, but this is not an essential ingredient to being
    FLOSS.

    Nancy
    Infinite Ink
    www.ii.com

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    "Nancy McGough" <nm-reverse-spam-filter@ii.deflexion.com> a écrit dans
    le message de news:Pine.OSX.4.61.0407310947310.1179@localhost...

    > That's what I said - neither Mulberry nor Pine are FLOSS. BTW,
    > the term "free/libre" doesn't have anything to do with financial
    > cost, it has to do with freedom (liberté). Often FLOSS software
    > is free/gratis because the freedom to redistribute it drives the
    > price down, but this is not an essential ingredient to being
    > FLOSS.


    Sorry, I just wope up...

    It' time to make a huge IMAP lobbying close to the Thunberbird team, and
    more communication about IMAP in general, mostly on imap servers
    capabilities.
    May IMAP will finally accomplish its revolution And we will be
    completely happy with IMAP. ;-)

    --
    kael | *Les pieds sur Terre et la Tête dans les étoiles*


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    kael wrote:
    > "Nancy McGough" <nm-reverse-spam-filter@ii.deflexion.com> a écrit dans
    > le message de news:Pine.OSX.4.61.0407310947310.1179@localhost...
    >
    >>That's what I said - neither Mulberry nor Pine are FLOSS. BTW,
    >>the term "free/libre" doesn't have anything to do with financial
    >>cost, it has to do with freedom (liberté). Often FLOSS software
    >>is free/gratis because the freedom to redistribute it drives the
    >>price down, but this is not an essential ingredient to being
    >>FLOSS.

    >
    > Sorry, I just wope up...
    >
    > It' time to make a huge IMAP lobbying close to the Thunberbird team, and
    > more communication about IMAP in general, mostly on imap servers
    > capabilities.
    > May IMAP will finally accomplish its revolution And we will be
    > completely happy with IMAP. ;-)


    From someone who's recently set up his own home IMAP server, you've got
    another lobbyist ;-)

    Robin

  7. Default Re: I wish *Thunderbird* supported 2 others (was: all) IMAP extensions

    "Robin Cloutman" <rycochet@rycochet.com> a écrit dans le message de
    news:ceg0gm$5db1@ripley.netscape.com
    > From someone who's recently set up his own home IMAP server, you've
    > got another lobbyist ;-)


    Here two others ideas.

    - inspired from Mulberry: *selective fetching of different portions of
    messages*; the header, the body and ... the attached file. Thus we could
    read a message without need to download the X* Mo attached file.

    Mulberry allows the best IMAP support for a client. It could be
    interesting for the "Mozilla/Thunderbird Team" to inspire from it;
    because Mulberry is the best and the unique client that allows a full
    use of the "exceedlingly excellent" IMAP capabilities.


    - adding a windows that would display the checking status as it is
    possible with OE, e.g. Also, allowing to configurate synchronization
    options (header, full, why not *body*,) as we can do with OE, except it
    doesn't allow to download only the body without the attached file.

    [HS: I hope my english is understantable]

    --
    kael | *Les pieds sur Terre et la tête dans les étoiles*


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