[HIBERNATE] [EVALUATION] - Gavin King Censors Hibernate Forum

followup-to: comp.lang.java.softwaretools

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nntp access to hibernate devel group:

news://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.hibernate.devel

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At first, I ask about an nntp user forum.

See the arrogant reaction of the team, which ignores user needs (this
topic was discussed in the past, too):

[Hibernate] [PROJECT] - Missing nntp user forum
http://www.mail-archive.com/hibernat.../msg04161.html

Subthread:
http://www.mail-archive.com/hibernat.../msg04200.html

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Next I evaluate against the fictive product jamStore:

See again with which arrogance the team rejects my offer to work
together towards the direction to produce some quickstarts as described
on the jamStore page [which would allow a 1h quick-start]:

[PRODUCT] ORM + RDBMS = OODBMS / Evaluation Against Fictive jamStore
http://www.mail-archive.com/hibernat.../msg04180.html

Subthread:

SV: [Hibernate] Re: [PRODUCT] ORM + RDBMS = OODBMS / Evaluation Against
Fictive jamStore

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See how simple Mr. Gavin King (JBoss) removes a granted right (to post
on the devel forum):

[Hibernate] FYI
http://www.mail-archive.com/hibernat.../msg04208.html

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My response in another thread:

"
To Gavin King:
Removing a person [which writes fully in topic] from a mailinglist is
censorship.
http://www.mail-archive.com/hibernat.../msg04208.html
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This here is not your personal playground.
I ask you friendly to stop removing me from the list.
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source:
http://www.mail-archive.com/hibernat.../msg04209.html

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The response: A personal Censorship Attack against my person:

"
Your mail to 'hibernate-devel' with the subject

Re: SV: Re: [PRODUCT] ORM + RDBMS = OODBMS / Evaluation Against
Fictive
jamStore

Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.

The reason it is being held:

Sender is explicitly forbidden

Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive
notification of the moderator's decision.
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A weak team lead like Gavin King (Jboss, Hibernate Lead developer) in
conjunction with a team which ignores
* user needs
* user experience
* users effort
cannot produce the next generation software systems.

Evaluation aborted.

[will continue it if i cannot find another solution]

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Act against Censorship on Java Forums.

One day it may hit you.

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Ilias Lazaridis:
After reading this thread, and some previous posts you made on the netbeans
mailing list, i wonder if you have any friends in real life.

I already know what your answer is going to be:
"This is irrelevant", or "This out of context", or some shit like that.
Would you please get a life and stop wasting people's time on these
technical newsgroups with your silly ideas and unproductive posts.

The only arrogant language I can see is in your own posts.

I don't mean to start a war here, but i just can't keep quite after reading
so many of your annoying posts.

Thanks
hilz

hilz wrote:
> Ilias Lazaridis:
> After reading this thread, and some previous posts you made on the netbeans

[EVALUATION] - E11 - Sun Microsystems Board of Directors
http://www.netbeans.org/servlets/Rea...stName=nbusers

> mailing list, i wonder if you have any friends in real life.

not that much.

want to become my friend, "Mr. Hilz no.w@y.com"?

> I already know what your answer is going to be:
> "This is irrelevant", or "This out of context", or some shit like that.

"shit like that"

> Would you please get a life and stop wasting people's time on these
> technical newsgroups with your silly ideas and unproductive posts.

"silly ideas"

> The only arrogant language I can see is in your own posts.

This is your [faulty] interpretation.

> I don't mean to start a war here, but i just can't keep quite after reading
> so many of your annoying posts.

no problem.

have a nice day!

> Thanks
> hilz

[REQUOTE]
>> Act against Censorship on Java Forums.
>>
>> One day it may hit you.
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