Original Apple Dylan Reference Manual - lisp

In article
<b644d9ae-c6fa-458e-95fd-19b63226b002@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
frank.adrian314159@gmail.com wrote:

> Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the 1992 edition of Apple's
> Dylan Reference Manual? You know, the one that still had the language
> using the proper syntax? I've tried Powells, Amazon, and Abebooks and
> none have any copies of the original 1992 edition. If anyone knows
> where I can get my hands on one, I would appreciate it.
>
> faa

It's called "Dylan, an Object-Oriented Dynamic Language"
from 1992.

AFAIK it was not sold as a book. One could get a copy from
Apple for free - one just had to request it from them.
Long ago.

Here are some HTML pages of it:

http://www.muc.de/~hoelzl/old-manual.tar.gz

Probably worth to get a real web presence. It's much
much better than some 'new' Lisp attempts I have seen
lately.

On Feb 10, 2:38 pm, Rainer Joswig <jos...@lisp.de> wrote:
> In article
> <b644d9ae-c6fa-458e-95fd-19b63226b...@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
>
> frank.adrian314...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the 1992 edition of Apple's
> > Dylan Reference Manual? You know, the one that still had the language
> > using the proper syntax? I've tried Powells, Amazon, and Abebooks and
> > none have any copies of the original 1992 edition. If anyone knows
> > where I can get my hands on one, I would appreciate it.
>
> > faa
>
> It's called "Dylan, an Object-Oriented Dynamic Language"
> from 1992.
>
> AFAIK it was not sold as a book. One could get a copy from
> Apple for free - one just had to request it from them.
> Long ago.
>
> Here are some HTML pages of it:
>
> http://www.muc.de/~hoelzl/old-manual.tar.gz
>
> Probably worth to get a real web presence. It's much
> much better than some 'new' Lisp attempts I have seen
> lately.

Thanks for the link, Rainer. I just started checking back into the
newsgroup after a couple years gone. You are as helpful as ever.

faa

In article
<b644d9ae-c6fa-458e-95fd-19b63226b002@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
frank.adrian314159@gmail.com wrote:

> Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the 1992 edition of Apple's
> Dylan Reference Manual? You know, the one that still had the language
> using the proper syntax? I've tried Powells, Amazon, and Abebooks and
> none have any copies of the original 1992 edition. If anyone knows
> where I can get my hands on one, I would appreciate it.
>
> faa

Try:

http://web.archive.org/web/200503160....ru/dylan/book
..annotated/contents.html

rg

In article
<69bd0b65-af9b-4c26-a7d2-c2b47bb9bc21@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com>,
frank.adrian314159@gmail.com wrote:

> On Feb 10, 2:38 pm, Rainer Joswig <jos...@lisp.de> wrote:
> > In article
> > <b644d9ae-c6fa-458e-95fd-19b63226b...@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > frank.adrian314...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the 1992 edition of Apple's
> > > Dylan Reference Manual? You know, the one that still had the language
> > > using the proper syntax? I've tried Powells, Amazon, and Abebooks and
> > > none have any copies of the original 1992 edition. If anyone knows
> > > where I can get my hands on one, I would appreciate it.
> >
> > > faa
> >
> > It's called "Dylan, an Object-Oriented Dynamic Language"
> > from 1992.
> >
> > AFAIK it was not sold as a book. One could get a copy from
> > Apple for free - one just had to request it from them.
> > Long ago.
> >
> > Here are some HTML pages of it:
> >
> > http://www.muc.de/~hoelzl/old-manual.tar.gz
> >
> > Probably worth to get a real web presence. It's much
> > much better than some 'new' Lisp attempts I have seen
> > lately.
>
> Thanks for the link, Rainer. I just started checking back into the
> newsgroup after a couple years gone. You are as helpful as ever.
>
> faa


You are getting bonus points for such a kind response. :-)

I have found another version on my laptop:

http://lispm.dyndns.org/documents/Di...x-dylan.tar.gz

This one comes with design notes.

On Feb 10, 2:51 pm, Rainer Joswig <jos...@lisp.de> wrote:
> In article
> <69bd0b65-af9b-4c26-a7d2-c2b47bb9b...@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
> frank.adrian314...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Feb 10, 2:38 pm, Rainer Joswig <jos...@lisp.de> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <b644d9ae-c6fa-458e-95fd-19b63226b...@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > frank.adrian314...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the 1992 edition of Apple's
> > > > Dylan Reference Manual? You know, the one that still had the language
> > > > using the proper syntax? I've tried Powells, Amazon, and Abebooks and
> > > > none have any copies of the original 1992 edition. If anyone knows
> > > > where I can get my hands on one, I would appreciate it.
>
> > > > faa
>
> > > It's called "Dylan, an Object-Oriented Dynamic Language"
> > > from 1992.
>
> > > AFAIK it was not sold as a book. One could get a copy from
> > > Apple for free - one just had to request it from them.
> > > Long ago.
>
> > > Here are some HTML pages of it:
>
> > > http://www.muc.de/~hoelzl/old-manual.tar.gz
>
> > > Probably worth to get a real web presence. It's much
> > > much better than some 'new' Lisp attempts I have seen
> > > lately.
>
> > Thanks for the link, Rainer. I just started checking back into the
> > newsgroup after a couple years gone. You are as helpful as ever.
>
> > faa
>
> You are getting bonus points for such a kind response. :-)
>
> I have found another version on my laptop:
>
> http://lispm.dyndns.org/documents/Di...x-dylan.tar.gz
>
> This one comes with design notes.

Thanks to all who replied. As i walked thought the book, I noticed
some HTML errors that I patched up. As soon as I repair links to the
annotation and figure material, I'll post a version and see if
softwarepreservation.org is interested, as they don't seem to have a
copy in their Lisp collection.

faa

In article
<033a52ab-f827-44ee-9a61-9cc46ee40745@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
frank.adrian314159@gmail.com wrote:

> On Feb 10, 2:51 pm, Rainer Joswig <jos...@lisp.de> wrote:
> > In article
> > <69bd0b65-af9b-4c26-a7d2-c2b47bb9b...@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> > frank.adrian314...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Feb 10, 2:38 pm, Rainer Joswig <jos...@lisp.de> wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <b644d9ae-c6fa-458e-95fd-19b63226b...@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > > > frank.adrian314...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the 1992 edition of Apple's
> > > > > Dylan Reference Manual? You know, the one that still had the language
> > > > > using the proper syntax? I've tried Powells, Amazon, and Abebooks and
> > > > > none have any copies of the original 1992 edition. If anyone knows
> > > > > where I can get my hands on one, I would appreciate it.
> >
> > > > > faa
> >
> > > > It's called "Dylan, an Object-Oriented Dynamic Language"
> > > > from 1992.
> >
> > > > AFAIK it was not sold as a book. One could get a copy from
> > > > Apple for free - one just had to request it from them.
> > > > Long ago.
> >
> > > > Here are some HTML pages of it:
> >
> > > > http://www.muc.de/~hoelzl/old-manual.tar.gz
> >
> > > > Probably worth to get a real web presence. It's much
> > > > much better than some 'new' Lisp attempts I have seen
> > > > lately.
> >
> > > Thanks for the link, Rainer. I just started checking back into the
> > > newsgroup after a couple years gone. You are as helpful as ever.
> >
> > > faa
> >
> > You are getting bonus points for such a kind response. :-)
> >
> > I have found another version on my laptop:
> >
> > http://lispm.dyndns.org/documents/Di...x-dylan.tar.gz
> >
> > This one comes with design notes.
>
> Thanks to all who replied. As i walked thought the book, I noticed
> some HTML errors that I patched up. As soon as I repair links to the
> annotation and figure material, I'll post a version and see if
> softwarepreservation.org is interested, as they don't seem to have a
> copy in their Lisp collection.
>
> faa

What kind of problems do you see? I have just removed
the links around the images - nothing else.

I have dropped the extracted files into an exported directory (by CL-HTTP).
It seems to work fine:

http://lispm.dyndns.org/documentatio...ed-manual.html

On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:02:51 +0100, Rainer Joswig <joswig@lisp.de>
wrote:

>
>What kind of problems do you see? I have just removed
>the links around the images - nothing else.
>
>I have dropped the extracted files into an exported directory (by CL-HTTP).
>It seems to work fine:
>
> http://lispm.dyndns.org/documentatio...ed-manual.html


I snagged the tgz version from your other post. The chapter links in
the book contents didn't work. Other than that trivial annoyance, I
haven't found anything. I have been reading through it mostly
sequentially though.

George
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for email reply remove "/" from address

On Feb 11, 3:36 pm, George Neuner <gneuner2/@/comcast.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:02:51 +0100, Rainer Joswig <jos...@lisp.de>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >What kind of problems do you see? I have just removed
> >the links around the images - nothing else.
>
> >I have dropped the extracted files into an exported directory (by CL-HTTP).
> >It seems to work fine:
>
> > http://lispm.dyndns.org/documentatio....annotated/ann...
>
> I snagged the tgz version from your other post. The chapter links in
> the book contents didn't work. Other than that trivial annoyance, I
> haven't found anything. I have been reading through it mostly
> sequentially though.
>
> George
> --
> for email reply remove "/" from address

The text is in monospaced font instead of Roman across large sections
of some of the chapters because of missing <\tt> tags. After fixing
those, it reads much more easily. The tags appear to be missing when
directly followed by a </b> tag at the beginning of a line. Also, the
picture gifs could be included directly (rather than pointed to by a
broken link).

frank.adrian314159@gmail.com writes:

> Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the 1992 edition of Apple's
> Dylan Reference Manual?

there's a complete set of apple manuals (and the distro disks) in
palo alto recycling from when i was cleaning out the garage this past
weekend. :-(

\p
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