Finally making use of PowerLisp despite several horrible bugs it has

#11 08-11-2008, 11:20 AM

On 9 Ago, 12:33, jaycx2.3.calrob...@spamgourmet.com.remove (Robert
Maas, http://tinyurl.com/uh3t) wrote:
> ...

Once I had to process really much data from a Mac Performa from ca.
1993, and I did it this way:

I made an image of the whole hard drive (connecting it physically to a
Linux PC, and if I remember correctly, using an SCSI card and the dd
command).

Then I downloaded (for free) an emulator for that machine, and it
worked perfectly, and quite fast (on current hardware).

Now my question: (left as an exercise to the reader)

-PM

#12 08-12-2008, 10:29 AM

On Aug 10, 4:32 am, "Thomas F. Burdick" <tburd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 10, 1:00 am, jaycx2.3.calrob...@spamgourmet.com.remove (Robert
>
> Maas,http://tinyurl.com/uh3t) wrote:
> > REM> PowerLisp 2.01 68k, released in 1994, apparently the last
> > REM> version of PowerLisp that works on 68xxx CPUs such as in my
> > REM> Macintosh Performa, has three utterly horrible bugs, which
> > REM> compound to make usage very very painful:
>
> > TFB> You continue to surprise and amaze us with your choice of
> > TFB> tools. Bravo! Engineering this is not ... but art!
>
> > Is that supposed to be satirical or something like that?
>
> Sarcastic, yes. You are constantly complaining (at extreme length)
> about the strangest problems here, and whenever a solution is given,
> you always have an even longer and stranger complaint waiting as to
> why it Cannot Possibly Work.
>
> You live in the Bay Area. You can get a junker computer that is 1000x
> better than your current for free, or the cost/trouble of taking
> public transit. If you have anything at all to barter you can get an
> even better one thanks to the wonder that is Craigslist. If you wanted
> to, I'm sure you could track down a 68k copy of MCL. I'm sure you
> won't, and no I don't want to hear the why.
>
> (Okay, I admit to a perverse curiosity, but I won't help)

How can you blame one Robert Maas?

Let's face it, lispers here are weired and old in general. Rainer,
still uses and trumpet Lisp Machines and its extremely non-ergonomic
keyboard.

On the other hand, there's Kenny, who sells a highschool algebra
software with accolades from the mid 1990s.

Then, there's Pitman, who's purpose is to remind us what he has been
doing in the 1980s.

I'd say Jon Harrop is more of a avant garde here. And, i'm beginning
to enjoy fully, the free-for-all nature of comp.lang.lisp, including,
the dogfight of propriety.

Xah
âˆ‘ http://xahlee.org/

â˜„

#13 08-12-2008, 11:14 AM

On Aug 12, 4:29Â*pm, "xah...@gmail.com" <xah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 10, 4:32 am, "Thomas F. Burdick" <tburd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 10, 1:00 am, jaycx2.3.calrob...@spamgourmet.com.remove (Robert
>
> > Maas,http://tinyurl.com/uh3t) wrote:
> > > REM> PowerLisp 2.01 68k, released in 1994, apparently the last
> > > REM> version of PowerLisp that works on 68xxx CPUs such as in my
> > > REM> Macintosh Performa, has three utterly horrible bugs, which
> > > REM> compound to make usage very very painful:
>
> > > TFB> You continue to surprise and amaze us with your choice of
> > > TFB> tools. Bravo! Engineering this is not ... but art!
>
> > > Is that supposed to be satirical or something like that?
>
> > Sarcastic, yes. You are constantly complaining (at extreme length)
> > about the strangest problems here, and whenever a solution is given,
> > you always have an even longer and stranger complaint waiting as to
> > why it Cannot Possibly Work.
>
> > You live in the Bay Area. You can get a junker computer that is 1000x
> > better than your current for free, or the cost/trouble of taking
> > public transit. If you have anything at all to barter you can get an
> > even better one thanks to the wonder that is Craigslist. If you wanted
> > to, I'm sure you could track down a 68k copy of MCL. I'm sure you
> > won't, and no I don't want to hear the why.
>
> > (Okay, I admit to a perverse curiosity, but I won't help)
>
> How can you blame one Robert Maas?
>
> Let's face it, lispers here are weired and old in general. Rainer,
> still uses and trumpet Lisp Machines and its extremely non-ergonomic
> keyboard.
>
> On the other hand, there's Kenny, who sells a highschool algebra
> software with accolades from the mid 1990s.
>
> Then, there's Pitman, who's purpose is to remind us what he has been
> doing in the 1980s.
>
> I'd say Jon Harrop is more of a avant garde here. And, i'm beginning
> to enjoy fully, the free-for-all nature of comp.lang.lisp, including,
> the dogfight of propriety.
>
> Â* Xah
> âˆ‘http://xahlee.org/
>
> â˜„- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

And what is your purpose Xah?

bobi

#14 08-12-2008, 11:21 AM

On 12 Ago, 16:29, "xah...@gmail.com" <xah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> How can you blame [a CL-USER]

Most of CL-USERs don't come here at all, and from those who actually
do, only few actually post.

Common Lisping is so much fun for them, that they don't feel the need
for this (only spuriously funny) group.

-PM

#15 08-12-2008, 12:32 PM

xahlee@gmail.com wrote:
> On Aug 10, 4:32 am, "Thomas F. Burdick" <tburd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Aug 10, 1:00 am, jaycx2.3.calrob...@spamgourmet.com.remove (Robert
>>
>> Maas,http://tinyurl.com/uh3t) wrote:
>>> REM> PowerLisp 2.01 68k, released in 1994, apparently the last
>>> REM> version of PowerLisp that works on 68xxx CPUs such as in my
>>> REM> Macintosh Performa, has three utterly horrible bugs, which
>>> REM> compound to make usage very very painful:
>>> TFB> You continue to surprise and amaze us with your choice of
>>> TFB> tools. Bravo! Engineering this is not ... but art!
>>> Is that supposed to be satirical or something like that?
>> Sarcastic, yes. You are constantly complaining (at extreme length)
>> about the strangest problems here, and whenever a solution is given,
>> you always have an even longer and stranger complaint waiting as to
>> why it Cannot Possibly Work.
>>
>> You live in the Bay Area. You can get a junker computer that is 1000x
>> better than your current for free, or the cost/trouble of taking
>> public transit. If you have anything at all to barter you can get an
>> even better one thanks to the wonder that is Craigslist. If you wanted
>> to, I'm sure you could track down a 68k copy of MCL. I'm sure you
>> won't, and no I don't want to hear the why.
>>
>> (Okay, I admit to a perverse curiosity, but I won't help)
>
> How can you blame one Robert Maas?
>
> Let's face it, lispers here are weired and old in general. Rainer,
> still uses and trumpet Lisp Machines and its extremely non-ergonomic
> keyboard.
>
> On the other hand, there's Kenny, who sells a highschool algebra
> software with accolades from the mid 1990s.

First line of (Microsoft Logo) code, 1985, on an Apple II. (But I
shouldn't be giving rem ideas.)

kt

--

$$$$$: http://www.theoryyalgebra.com/
Cells: http://common-lisp.net/project/cells/
BSlog: http://smuglispweeny.blogspot.com/

#16 08-12-2008, 01:12 PM

Slobodan Blazeski wrote: Â«And what is your purpose Xah?Â».

Well, the Wizard of Oz says: â€œTo confer, converse, and otherwise hob-
nob with my brother wizards.â€.

But from my perspective, i'm more inclined to think my purpose being
the Re-education Of Lispers.

Xah
âˆ‘ http://xahlee.org/

â˜„

#17 08-12-2008, 02:00 PM

On 12 Ago, 19:12, "xah...@gmail.com" <xah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Re-education Of Lispers

But that's no plain ROFL (you forgot a nice F word).

#18 08-12-2008, 07:56 PM

On 2008-08-09, Robert Maas, http://tinyurl.com/uh3t
<jaycx2.3.calrobert@spamgourmet.com.remove> wrote:
> PowerLisp 2.01 68k, released in 1994, apparently the last version
> of PowerLisp that works on 68xxx CPUs such as in my Macintosh
> Performa

You're diving through the wrong dumpsters for equipment.

#19 08-12-2008, 08:14 PM

Kaz Kylheku wrote:
> On 2008-08-09, Robert Maas, http://tinyurl.com/uh3t
> <jaycx2.3.calrobert@spamgourmet.com.remove> wrote:
>> PowerLisp 2.01 68k, released in 1994, apparently the last version
>> of PowerLisp that works on 68xxx CPUs such as in my Macintosh
>> Performa
>
> You're diving through the wrong dumpsters for equipment.

dumpster schmumpster, someone would probably give him $10 to take away a
nice system and a couple of 19" monitors.

I just wish he lived nearby.

kt

--

$$$$$: http://www.theoryyalgebra.com/
Cells: http://common-lisp.net/project/cells/
BSlog: http://smuglispweeny.blogspot.com/

#20 08-12-2008, 10:38 PM

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:12:54 -0700 (PDT), "xahlee@gmail.com"
<xahlee@gmail.com> wrote:

>Slobodan Blazeski wrote: «And what is your purpose Xah?».
>
>Well, the Wizard of Oz says: “To confer, converse, and otherwise hob-
>nob with my brother wizards.”.
>
But don't look behind the curtain.

George

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Finally making use of PowerLisp despite several **horrible** bugs it has

Finally making use of PowerLisp despite several horrible bugs it has