Is Fw really better for web graphics?

This is a discussion on Is Fw really better for web graphics? within the Macromedia Fireworks forums in Adobe Tools category; Ok, so I've downloaded the Fw trial to see how it's better for web graphics than Photoshop. With Photoshop the usual problem is that I have to messing around to turn on/off layers, copy parts of images into new images to export transparent logos etc. so I hoped that Fw have some intelligent slice system for one step exports. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find it. Maybe I'm wrong but it seems to me that Fw has a very primitive flat slicing system, no overlapping is possible. So for a very basic example if I have a background graphics ...

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Old 05-31-2008, 12:25 PM
I. G.
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Default Is Fw really better for web graphics?

Ok, so I've downloaded the Fw trial to see how it's better for web graphics
than Photoshop. With Photoshop the usual problem is that I have to messing
around to turn on/off layers, copy parts of images into new images to export
transparent logos etc. so I hoped that Fw have some intelligent slice system
for one step exports. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find it. Maybe I'm
wrong but it seems to me that Fw has a very primitive flat slicing system, no
overlapping is possible. So for a very basic example if I have a background
graphics on the top of the page that I want to export (not the entire page) and
a logo *on* it that I want to export as a transparent png or maybe just as a
jpg including the background, it's impossible, because the logo slice will
divide the page into rectangles no matter what. I don't care about
HTML/CSS/whatever I just want to export overlapping graphic slices in one
simple step by properly defined slices. Looks like I couldn't find the one step
solution I hoped for in Fw. Am I missing something?





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Old 05-31-2008, 01:09 PM
Jim Babbage .:CMX:. & .:Adobe Community Expert:.
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Default Re: Is Fw really better for web graphics?

I. G. wrote:
> Ok, so I've downloaded the Fw trial to see how it's better for web graphics
> than Photoshop. With Photoshop the usual problem is that I have to messing
> around to turn on/off layers, copy parts of images into new images to export
> transparent logos etc. so I hoped that Fw have some intelligent slice system
> for one step exports. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find it. Maybe I'm
> wrong but it seems to me that Fw has a very primitive flat slicing system, no
> overlapping is possible. So for a very basic example if I have a background
> graphics on the top of the page that I want to export (not the entire page) and
> a logo *on* it that I want to export as a transparent png or maybe just as a
> jpg including the background, it's impossible, because the logo slice will
> divide the page into rectangles no matter what. I don't care about
> HTML/CSS/whatever I just want to export overlapping graphic slices in one
> simple step by properly defined slices. Looks like I couldn't find the one step
> solution I hoped for in Fw. Am I missing something?
>
>
>
>
>


In a word. Yes. It's designed to work with screen graphics, and handles
both vector and bitmaps well at the same time. It's got quite a few
more web-centric workflows than Photoshop.

Fireworks CS3 supports multiple pages. Each page supports it's own web
layer, so you have much more control over slices and can avoid the
problems of overlapping slices this way.

Overlapping slices don't work because it's impossible for FW to
determine which one is the most important - and should be sliced in whole

>>So for a very basic example if I have a background

> graphics on the top of the page that I want to export (not the entire

page) and
> a logo *on* it that I want to export as a transparent png or maybe

just as a
> jpg including the background, it's impossible, because the logo slice

will
> divide the page into rectangles no matter what.<<



I'm not clear on what you're trying to do here as you seemed to have
left some information out. Assuming you want a repeating background
image and as separate slice for the logo.

Draw a slice that covers the width of your background, by however many
pixels tall you need. Either lower on the page or on a separate page
plave the logo and slice it as well. As you are not concerned about the
html or CSS it's pretty straightforward from there. Just export the
slices, and tell FW not to include unsliced areas. In your html, set you
background image as a background image and your logo either as an inline
image or as a background image within another containing div.


HTH

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Old 06-10-2008, 03:03 PM
DizzDizzy
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good info there
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Old 06-12-2008, 07:03 AM
geeturs
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What limitations does the trial have?
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Old 06-12-2008, 07:35 AM
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30-day expiration is all.

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> What limitations does the trial have?


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Old 06-16-2008, 06:46 AM
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most adobe products are 30 day trial
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Old 06-18-2008, 03:31 PM
DizzDizzy
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thanks for solving my problem. now i can easily work on fireworks.
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