Distribution Groups changing to Security Groups - Microsoft Exchange

Hi,

Are these groups by any chance being used for assigning permisions on public
folders?

Leif

"John Marszalek" <John Marszalek@discussions.microsoft.com> skrev i en
meddelelse news727F758-5CD6-45DC-8E73-A81AB6EE3D30@microsoft.com...
> I have a question:
>
> We have a couple of Distribution groups in our W2K3 AD that are set up so
a
> user can e-mail a group of people, and every now and then, when we go back
> into AD, they are changed to security groups. Why is it changing them?
> There are only 3 people who have access to our AD, and no one is changing
> them. This has happened a few times. Any ideas? I can be e-mailed at
> jmarsz@educ.state.wy.us. Thanks!

Yes, as a matter of fact, some of them are. Is that causing the problem?

"Leif Pedersen [MVP]" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Are these groups by any chance being used for assigning permisions on public
> folders?
>
> Leif
>
> "John Marszalek" <John Marszalek@discussions.microsoft.com> skrev i en
> meddelelse news727F758-5CD6-45DC-8E73-A81AB6EE3D30@microsoft.com...
> > I have a question:
> >
> > We have a couple of Distribution groups in our W2K3 AD that are set up so
> a
> > user can e-mail a group of people, and every now and then, when we go back
> > into AD, they are changed to security groups. Why is it changing them?
> > There are only 3 people who have access to our AD, and no one is changing
> > them. This has happened a few times. Any ideas? I can be e-mailed at
> > jmarsz@educ.state.wy.us. Thanks!
>
>
>

Hi,

Yes that is the cause. But it should not be a problem.

Leif

"John Marszalek" <John Marszalek@discussions.microsoft.com> skrev i en
meddelelse news:300C168C-2EE1-4402-9289-A6B8667F9D1F@microsoft.com...
> Yes, as a matter of fact, some of them are. Is that causing the problem?
>
> "Leif Pedersen [MVP]" wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Are these groups by any chance being used for assigning permisions on
public
> > folders?
> >
> > Leif
> >
> > "John Marszalek" <John Marszalek@discussions.microsoft.com> skrev i en
> > meddelelse news727F758-5CD6-45DC-8E73-A81AB6EE3D30@microsoft.com...
> > > I have a question:
> > >
> > > We have a couple of Distribution groups in our W2K3 AD that are set up
so
> > a
> > > user can e-mail a group of people, and every now and then, when we go
back
> > > into AD, they are changed to security groups. Why is it changing
them?
> > > There are only 3 people who have access to our AD, and no one is
changing
> > > them. This has happened a few times. Any ideas? I can be e-mailed
at
> > > jmarsz@educ.state.wy.us. Thanks!
> >
> >
> >

Anytime *ANYONE* uses a DL to assign permissions to anything in Exchange
(including say a user giving a DL permissions on a calendar or something),
Exchange converts the DL to a Security enabled DL.

joe

--
Joe Richards Microsoft MVP Windows Server Directory Services
www.joeware.net


John Marszalek wrote:
> I have a question:
>
> We have a couple of Distribution groups in our W2K3 AD that are set up so a
> user can e-mail a group of people, and every now and then, when we go back
> into AD, they are changed to security groups. Why is it changing them?
> There are only 3 people who have access to our AD, and no one is changing
> them. This has happened a few times. Any ideas? I can be e-mailed at
> jmarsz@educ.state.wy.us. Thanks!

Hi,

Is there a way to change all distribution groups to security groups whiout
deleting the distribution group and create a new security group ?

I've tried to assign permisions on a public folder for a distribution group
but I have an error: The modified permissions could not be saved. The client
operation failed...

Thanks

"Joe Richards [MVP]" wrote:

> Anytime *ANYONE* uses a DL to assign permissions to anything in Exchange
> (including say a user giving a DL permissions on a calendar or something),
> Exchange converts the DL to a Security enabled DL.
>
> joe
>
> --
> Joe Richards Microsoft MVP Windows Server Directory Services
> www.joeware.net
>
>
> John Marszalek wrote:
> > I have a question:
> >
> > We have a couple of Distribution groups in our W2K3 AD that are set up so a
> > user can e-mail a group of people, and every now and then, when we go back
> > into AD, they are changed to security groups. Why is it changing them?
> > There are only 3 people who have access to our AD, and no one is changing
> > them. This has happened a few times. Any ideas? I can be e-mailed at
> > jmarsz@educ.state.wy.us. Thanks!
>

Sure, just change the grouptype attribute of the group. That can be done through
the aduc or via scripts.


--
Joe Richards Microsoft MVP Windows Server Directory Services
www.joeware.net


Stephane Gagne wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there a way to change all distribution groups to security groups whiout
> deleting the distribution group and create a new security group ?
>
> I've tried to assign permisions on a public folder for a distribution group
> but I have an error: The modified permissions could not be saved. The client
> operation failed...
>
> Thanks
>
> "Joe Richards [MVP]" wrote:
>
>
>>Anytime *ANYONE* uses a DL to assign permissions to anything in Exchange
>>(including say a user giving a DL permissions on a calendar or something),
>>Exchange converts the DL to a Security enabled DL.
>>
>> joe
>>
>>--
>>Joe Richards Microsoft MVP Windows Server Directory Services
>>www.joeware.net
>>
>>
>>John Marszalek wrote:
>>
>>>I have a question:
>>>
>>>We have a couple of Distribution groups in our W2K3 AD that are set up so a
>>>user can e-mail a group of people, and every now and then, when we go back
>>>into AD, they are changed to security groups. Why is it changing them?
>>>There are only 3 people who have access to our AD, and no one is changing
>>>them. This has happened a few times. Any ideas? I can be e-mailed at
>>>jmarsz@educ.state.wy.us. Thanks!
>>

Thanks .... but aduc stand for what and where can I find this tool ?

"Joe Richards [MVP]" wrote:

> Sure, just change the grouptype attribute of the group. That can be done through
> the aduc or via scripts.
>
>
> --
> Joe Richards Microsoft MVP Windows Server Directory Services
> www.joeware.net
>
>
> Stephane Gagne wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is there a way to change all distribution groups to security groups whiout
> > deleting the distribution group and create a new security group ?
> >
> > I've tried to assign permisions on a public folder for a distribution group
> > but I have an error: The modified permissions could not be saved. The client
> > operation failed...
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > "Joe Richards [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Anytime *ANYONE* uses a DL to assign permissions to anything in Exchange
> >>(including say a user giving a DL permissions on a calendar or something),
> >>Exchange converts the DL to a Security enabled DL.
> >>
> >> joe
> >>
> >>--
> >>Joe Richards Microsoft MVP Windows Server Directory Services
> >>www.joeware.net
> >>
> >>
> >>John Marszalek wrote:
> >>
> >>>I have a question:
> >>>
> >>>We have a couple of Distribution groups in our W2K3 AD that are set up so a
> >>>user can e-mail a group of people, and every now and then, when we go back
> >>>into AD, they are changed to security groups. Why is it changing them?
> >>>There are only 3 people who have access to our AD, and no one is changing
> >>>them. This has happened a few times. Any ideas? I can be e-mailed at
> >>>jmarsz@educ.state.wy.us. Thanks!
> >>
>

Sorry ..


I can't change this option in Active Directory Users and Computers, the
security type is shaded. I know that tehre is some command line to manage
AD, do you know by which one I can change this parameter ?

"Joe Richards [MVP]" wrote:

> Sure, just change the grouptype attribute of the group. That can be done through
> the aduc or via scripts.
>
>
> --
> Joe Richards Microsoft MVP Windows Server Directory Services
> www.joeware.net
>
>
> Stephane Gagne wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is there a way to change all distribution groups to security groups whiout
> > deleting the distribution group and create a new security group ?
> >
> > I've tried to assign permisions on a public folder for a distribution group
> > but I have an error: The modified permissions could not be saved. The client
> > operation failed...
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > "Joe Richards [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Anytime *ANYONE* uses a DL to assign permissions to anything in Exchange
> >>(including say a user giving a DL permissions on a calendar or something),
> >>Exchange converts the DL to a Security enabled DL.
> >>
> >> joe
> >>
> >>--
> >>Joe Richards Microsoft MVP Windows Server Directory Services
> >>www.joeware.net
> >>
> >>
> >>John Marszalek wrote:
> >>
> >>>I have a question:
> >>>
> >>>We have a couple of Distribution groups in our W2K3 AD that are set up so a
> >>>user can e-mail a group of people, and every now and then, when we go back
> >>>into AD, they are changed to security groups. Why is it changing them?
> >>>There are only 3 people who have access to our AD, and no one is changing
> >>>them. This has happened a few times. Any ideas? I can be e-mailed at
> >>>jmarsz@educ.state.wy.us. Thanks!
> >>
>

That means you don't have permission. The GUI should be able to do it if you
have permissions.

If you have Windows 2003 you can use dsmod. However, if you don't have
permissions, it won't do it either.

joe

--
Joe Richards Microsoft MVP Windows Server Directory Services
www.joeware.net


Stephane Gagne wrote:
> Sorry ..
>
>
> I can't change this option in Active Directory Users and Computers, the
> security type is shaded. I know that tehre is some command line to manage
> AD, do you know by which one I can change this parameter ?
>
> "Joe Richards [MVP]" wrote:
>
>
>>Sure, just change the grouptype attribute of the group. That can be done through
>>the aduc or via scripts.
>>
>>
>>--
>>Joe Richards Microsoft MVP Windows Server Directory Services
>>www.joeware.net
>>
>>
>>Stephane Gagne wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>Is there a way to change all distribution groups to security groups whiout
>>>deleting the distribution group and create a new security group ?
>>>
>>>I've tried to assign permisions on a public folder for a distribution group
>>>but I have an error: The modified permissions could not be saved. The client
>>>operation failed...
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>"Joe Richards [MVP]" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Anytime *ANYONE* uses a DL to assign permissions to anything in Exchange
>>>>(including say a user giving a DL permissions on a calendar or something),
>>>>Exchange converts the DL to a Security enabled DL.
>>>>
>>>> joe
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Joe Richards Microsoft MVP Windows Server Directory Services
>>>>www.joeware.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>John Marszalek wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have a question:
>>>>>
>>>>>We have a couple of Distribution groups in our W2K3 AD that are set up so a
>>>>>user can e-mail a group of people, and every now and then, when we go back
>>>>>into AD, they are changed to security groups. Why is it changing them?
>>>>>There are only 3 people who have access to our AD, and no one is changing
>>>>>them. This has happened a few times. Any ideas? I can be e-mailed at
>>>>>jmarsz@educ.state.wy.us. Thanks!
>>>>