Exchange 13... No Public Folders?

This is a discussion on Exchange 13... No Public Folders? within the Microsoft Exchange forums in Microsoft Tools category; Hello, I saw on Slipstick.com that the next version of Exchange (Exchange 13) will not support Public Folders. The suggestion is to use SharePoint instead. Well, I have developed a recruiting solution for our company which uses Outlook 2003 and Exchange 2003. We have 3 main Public Contact Folders and have about 100,000 contacts in them between the 3 folders (3 types of contact items). All of these public folders have contacts that use a custom form developed with about 50 custom fields. There is a lot of vbscript behind the forms as well as about 45,000 lines of VBA ...

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  #1  
Old 08-04-2006, 03:21 PM
John Riddle
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Default Exchange 13... No Public Folders?

Hello,

I saw on Slipstick.com that the next version of Exchange (Exchange 13) will
not support Public Folders. The suggestion is to use SharePoint instead.

Well, I have developed a recruiting solution for our company which uses
Outlook 2003 and Exchange 2003. We have 3 main Public Contact Folders and have
about 100,000 contacts in them between the 3 folders (3 types of contact
items). All of these public folders have contacts that use a custom form
developed with about 50 custom fields. There is a lot of vbscript behind the
forms as well as about 45,000 lines of VBA code that processes the items and
provides automation for many, many repetitive tasks that we do on a single
contact or many in a search (filter) on the Public Folders. We additionally
have several Public Calendars and a Public Task folder with a custom task form
that contains many, many custom fields (we don't really use the items in this
folder as "task" items, but that form had more date fields/controls built-in
so it was better to use it as a template for our custom form than any of the
other standard Outlook items).

If what I'm hearing about the new version of exchange is correct, we're going
to have to move from a forms-based system built on Outlook/Exchange to a
web-based system built on SharePoint/Exchange/Outlook? (If we can actually
successfully migrate our functionality to SharePoint)

I'm having a heart-attack here! I can't imagine what it will take to migrate
our system to SharePoint. It took 2 years to build as it was. Can anyone tell
me if they think that SharePoint is capable of handling this type of
functionality? Will my users have to switch between Outlook
(sending/recieving/reading mail, tasks, calendar items, etc.) and SharePoint
for Searching/Recruiting/CRM capability and now have to use two separate
applications whereas now they simply have one interface (Outlook) ?

John


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  #2  
Old 08-05-2006, 10:14 AM
Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]
Guest
 
Default Re: Exchange 13... No Public Folders?



In news:u0x20s$tGHA.5084@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
John Riddle <jriddleatsignwilsongroupnyperiodcom> typed:
> Hello,
>
> I saw on Slipstick.com that the next version of Exchange (Exchange
> 13) will not support Public Folders. The suggestion is to use
> SharePoint instead.


Yes.

>
> Well, I have developed a recruiting solution for our company which
> uses Outlook 2003 and Exchange 2003. We have 3 main Public Contact
> Folders and have about 100,000 contacts in them between the 3 folders
> (3 types of contact items). All of these public folders have contacts
> that use a custom form developed with about 50 custom fields. There
> is a lot of vbscript behind the forms as well as about 45,000 lines
> of VBA code that processes the items and provides automation for
> many, many repetitive tasks that we do on a single contact or many in
> a search (filter) on the Public Folders. We additionally have several
> Public Calendars and a Public Task folder with a custom task form
> that contains many, many custom fields (we don't really use the items
> in this folder as "task" items, but that form had more date
> fields/controls built-in so it was better to use it as a template for
> our custom form than any of the other standard Outlook items).
>
> If what I'm hearing about the new version of exchange is correct,
> we're going to have to move from a forms-based system built on
> Outlook/Exchange to a web-based system built on
> SharePoint/Exchange/Outlook? (If we can actually successfully migrate
> our functionality to SharePoint)


You'll be able to see your Sharepoint data in Outlook....

>
> I'm having a heart-attack here! I can't imagine what it will take to
> migrate our system to SharePoint. It took 2 years to build as it was.
> Can anyone tell me if they think that SharePoint is capable of
> handling this type of functionality? Will my users have to switch
> between Outlook (sending/recieving/reading mail, tasks, calendar
> items, etc.) and SharePoint for Searching/Recruiting/CRM capability
> and now have to use two separate applications whereas now they
> simply have one interface (Outlook) ?
>
> John


I don't think your users will notice much of a difference (although you
will). You might try posting in a Sharepoint group for more advice,
honestly. Note as well that we're talking about something that is years and
years away from happening at this point....E12 will have public folders
(altho they won't be visible in OWA).

Myself, I'm also annoyed that PFs are going away, but then, I don't know
much about Sharepoint yet. I may be won over.



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  #3  
Old 08-15-2006, 06:06 PM
John Riddle
Guest
 
Default Re: Exchange 13... No Public Folders?

Thanks for you detailed response. I don't know much about SharePoint either
although I've played around enough with WebDAV that I know I'm really not
excited to learn.

I'm really not an Outlook Developer. I'm a sales person. I taught myself in
order to develop a much better CRM system than the ACT! program that they were
using when I started here. It took me 6 months to develop a great system and
then when users started using it, I worked on enhancements and new features in
my spare time for another 6 months. Its a fantastic system that works better
(for our purposes) than anything I've seen on the market. There are many
thousands of lines of VBA/CDO code, hundreds and hundreds of custom fields and
a couple dozen custom forms. I also Administer the Windows 2003/Exchange 2003
Servers that this system runs on as well as the desktops. We have about 20
users.

I don't get paid to do any of this. I get paid to make sales. I really don't
want to have to go back and re-write the whole system. I'm glad to hear that
this will be years down the road.

Thanks,

John

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.aty ahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eA1sBmJuGHA.1284@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...


In news:u0x20s$tGHA.5084@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
John Riddle <jriddleatsignwilsongroupnyperiodcom> typed:
> Hello,
>
> I saw on Slipstick.com that the next version of Exchange (Exchange
> 13) will not support Public Folders. The suggestion is to use
> SharePoint instead.


Yes.

>
> Well, I have developed a recruiting solution for our company which
> uses Outlook 2003 and Exchange 2003. We have 3 main Public Contact
> Folders and have about 100,000 contacts in them between the 3 folders
> (3 types of contact items). All of these public folders have contacts
> that use a custom form developed with about 50 custom fields. There
> is a lot of vbscript behind the forms as well as about 45,000 lines
> of VBA code that processes the items and provides automation for
> many, many repetitive tasks that we do on a single contact or many in
> a search (filter) on the Public Folders. We additionally have several
> Public Calendars and a Public Task folder with a custom task form
> that contains many, many custom fields (we don't really use the items
> in this folder as "task" items, but that form had more date
> fields/controls built-in so it was better to use it as a template for
> our custom form than any of the other standard Outlook items).
>
> If what I'm hearing about the new version of exchange is correct,
> we're going to have to move from a forms-based system built on
> Outlook/Exchange to a web-based system built on
> SharePoint/Exchange/Outlook? (If we can actually successfully migrate
> our functionality to SharePoint)


You'll be able to see your Sharepoint data in Outlook....

>
> I'm having a heart-attack here! I can't imagine what it will take to
> migrate our system to SharePoint. It took 2 years to build as it was.
> Can anyone tell me if they think that SharePoint is capable of
> handling this type of functionality? Will my users have to switch
> between Outlook (sending/recieving/reading mail, tasks, calendar
> items, etc.) and SharePoint for Searching/Recruiting/CRM capability
> and now have to use two separate applications whereas now they
> simply have one interface (Outlook) ?
>
> John


I don't think your users will notice much of a difference (although you
will). You might try posting in a Sharepoint group for more advice,
honestly. Note as well that we're talking about something that is years and
years away from happening at this point....E12 will have public folders
(altho they won't be visible in OWA).

Myself, I'm also annoyed that PFs are going away, but then, I don't know
much about Sharepoint yet. I may be won over.




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  #4  
Old 08-15-2006, 07:57 PM
Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]
Guest
 
Default Re: Exchange 13... No Public Folders?

In news:uz4ZJcLwGHA.4876@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
John Riddle <jriddleatsignwilsongroupnyperiodcom> typed:
> Thanks for you detailed response. I don't know much about SharePoint
> either although I've played around enough with WebDAV that I know I'm
> really not excited to learn.
>
> I'm really not an Outlook Developer. I'm a sales person. I taught
> myself in order to develop a much better CRM system than the ACT!
> program that they were using when I started here.


Good on you - I don't like ACT much. Unfortunately, it does fill a need.

> It took me 6 months
> to develop a great system and then when users started using it, I
> worked on enhancements and new features in my spare time for another
> 6 months. Its a fantastic system that works better (for our purposes)
> than anything I've seen on the market. There are many thousands of
> lines of VBA/CDO code, hundreds and hundreds of custom fields and a
> couple dozen custom forms. I also Administer the Windows
> 2003/Exchange 2003 Servers that this system runs on as well as the
> desktops. We have about 20 users.
>
> I don't get paid to do any of this. I get paid to make sales. I
> really don't want to have to go back and re-write the whole system.
> I'm glad to hear that this will be years down the road.



And by then, you may be lying on a beach chair enjoying a tropical drink,
and thinking of ways to spend your lottery winnings. That's my plan, anyway.
Everyone needs a retirement plan.


>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.aty ahoo.com> wrote in
> message news:eA1sBmJuGHA.1284@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
>
> In news:u0x20s$tGHA.5084@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
> John Riddle <jriddleatsignwilsongroupnyperiodcom> typed:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I saw on Slipstick.com that the next version of Exchange (Exchange
>> 13) will not support Public Folders. The suggestion is to use
>> SharePoint instead.

>
> Yes.
>
>>
>> Well, I have developed a recruiting solution for our company which
>> uses Outlook 2003 and Exchange 2003. We have 3 main Public Contact
>> Folders and have about 100,000 contacts in them between the 3 folders
>> (3 types of contact items). All of these public folders have contacts
>> that use a custom form developed with about 50 custom fields. There
>> is a lot of vbscript behind the forms as well as about 45,000 lines
>> of VBA code that processes the items and provides automation for
>> many, many repetitive tasks that we do on a single contact or many in
>> a search (filter) on the Public Folders. We additionally have several
>> Public Calendars and a Public Task folder with a custom task form
>> that contains many, many custom fields (we don't really use the items
>> in this folder as "task" items, but that form had more date
>> fields/controls built-in so it was better to use it as a template for
>> our custom form than any of the other standard Outlook items).
>>
>> If what I'm hearing about the new version of exchange is correct,
>> we're going to have to move from a forms-based system built on
>> Outlook/Exchange to a web-based system built on
>> SharePoint/Exchange/Outlook? (If we can actually successfully migrate
>> our functionality to SharePoint)

>
> You'll be able to see your Sharepoint data in Outlook....
>
>>
>> I'm having a heart-attack here! I can't imagine what it will take to
>> migrate our system to SharePoint. It took 2 years to build as it was.
>> Can anyone tell me if they think that SharePoint is capable of
>> handling this type of functionality? Will my users have to switch
>> between Outlook (sending/recieving/reading mail, tasks, calendar
>> items, etc.) and SharePoint for Searching/Recruiting/CRM capability
>> and now have to use two separate applications whereas now they
>> simply have one interface (Outlook) ?
>>
>> John

>
> I don't think your users will notice much of a difference (although
> you will). You might try posting in a Sharepoint group for more
> advice,
> honestly. Note as well that we're talking about something that is
> years and years away from happening at this point....E12 will have
> public folders (altho they won't be visible in OWA).
>
> Myself, I'm also annoyed that PFs are going away, but then, I don't
> know
> much about Sharepoint yet. I may be won over.




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  #5  
Old 09-12-2006, 10:46 AM
Dave Goldman [MSFT]
Guest
 
Default Re: Exchange 13... No Public Folders?

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/win...2/default.mspx

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.aty ahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eQ8xydMwGHA.4612@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> In news:uz4ZJcLwGHA.4876@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
> John Riddle <jriddleatsignwilsongroupnyperiodcom> typed:
>> Thanks for you detailed response. I don't know much about SharePoint
>> either although I've played around enough with WebDAV that I know I'm
>> really not excited to learn.
>>
>> I'm really not an Outlook Developer. I'm a sales person. I taught
>> myself in order to develop a much better CRM system than the ACT!
>> program that they were using when I started here.

>
> Good on you - I don't like ACT much. Unfortunately, it does fill a need.
>
>> It took me 6 months
>> to develop a great system and then when users started using it, I
>> worked on enhancements and new features in my spare time for another
>> 6 months. Its a fantastic system that works better (for our purposes)
>> than anything I've seen on the market. There are many thousands of
>> lines of VBA/CDO code, hundreds and hundreds of custom fields and a
>> couple dozen custom forms. I also Administer the Windows
>> 2003/Exchange 2003 Servers that this system runs on as well as the
>> desktops. We have about 20 users.
>>
>> I don't get paid to do any of this. I get paid to make sales. I
>> really don't want to have to go back and re-write the whole system.
>> I'm glad to hear that this will be years down the road.

>
>
> And by then, you may be lying on a beach chair enjoying a tropical drink,
> and thinking of ways to spend your lottery winnings. That's my plan,
> anyway. Everyone needs a retirement plan.
>
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> John
>>
>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.aty ahoo.com> wrote in
>> message news:eA1sBmJuGHA.1284@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>>
>> In news:u0x20s$tGHA.5084@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
>> John Riddle <jriddleatsignwilsongroupnyperiodcom> typed:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I saw on Slipstick.com that the next version of Exchange (Exchange
>>> 13) will not support Public Folders. The suggestion is to use
>>> SharePoint instead.

>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>>
>>> Well, I have developed a recruiting solution for our company which
>>> uses Outlook 2003 and Exchange 2003. We have 3 main Public Contact
>>> Folders and have about 100,000 contacts in them between the 3 folders
>>> (3 types of contact items). All of these public folders have contacts
>>> that use a custom form developed with about 50 custom fields. There
>>> is a lot of vbscript behind the forms as well as about 45,000 lines
>>> of VBA code that processes the items and provides automation for
>>> many, many repetitive tasks that we do on a single contact or many in
>>> a search (filter) on the Public Folders. We additionally have several
>>> Public Calendars and a Public Task folder with a custom task form
>>> that contains many, many custom fields (we don't really use the items
>>> in this folder as "task" items, but that form had more date
>>> fields/controls built-in so it was better to use it as a template for
>>> our custom form than any of the other standard Outlook items).
>>>
>>> If what I'm hearing about the new version of exchange is correct,
>>> we're going to have to move from a forms-based system built on
>>> Outlook/Exchange to a web-based system built on
>>> SharePoint/Exchange/Outlook? (If we can actually successfully migrate
>>> our functionality to SharePoint)

>>
>> You'll be able to see your Sharepoint data in Outlook....
>>
>>>
>>> I'm having a heart-attack here! I can't imagine what it will take to
>>> migrate our system to SharePoint. It took 2 years to build as it was.
>>> Can anyone tell me if they think that SharePoint is capable of
>>> handling this type of functionality? Will my users have to switch
>>> between Outlook (sending/recieving/reading mail, tasks, calendar
>>> items, etc.) and SharePoint for Searching/Recruiting/CRM capability
>>> and now have to use two separate applications whereas now they
>>> simply have one interface (Outlook) ?
>>>
>>> John

>>
>> I don't think your users will notice much of a difference (although
>> you will). You might try posting in a Sharepoint group for more
>> advice,
>> honestly. Note as well that we're talking about something that is
>> years and years away from happening at this point....E12 will have
>> public folders (altho they won't be visible in OWA).
>>
>> Myself, I'm also annoyed that PFs are going away, but then, I don't
>> know
>> much about Sharepoint yet. I may be won over.

>
>
>



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  #6  
Old 09-13-2006, 08:32 AM
Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]
Guest
 
Default Re: Exchange 13... No Public Folders?

In news:eFuGxon1GHA.2196@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
Dave Goldman [MSFT] <noreply@microsoft.com> typed:
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/win...2/default.mspx


Awww. How's that going to help me win the lottery or buy a semitropical
island paradise?

>
> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.aty ahoo.com> wrote in
> message news:eQ8xydMwGHA.4612@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> In news:uz4ZJcLwGHA.4876@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
>> John Riddle <jriddleatsignwilsongroupnyperiodcom> typed:
>>> Thanks for you detailed response. I don't know much about SharePoint
>>> either although I've played around enough with WebDAV that I know
>>> I'm really not excited to learn.
>>>
>>> I'm really not an Outlook Developer. I'm a sales person. I taught
>>> myself in order to develop a much better CRM system than the ACT!
>>> program that they were using when I started here.

>>
>> Good on you - I don't like ACT much. Unfortunately, it does fill a
>> need.
>>> It took me 6 months
>>> to develop a great system and then when users started using it, I
>>> worked on enhancements and new features in my spare time for another
>>> 6 months. Its a fantastic system that works better (for our
>>> purposes) than anything I've seen on the market. There are many
>>> thousands of lines of VBA/CDO code, hundreds and hundreds of custom
>>> fields and a couple dozen custom forms. I also Administer the
>>> Windows 2003/Exchange 2003 Servers that this system runs on as well
>>> as the desktops. We have about 20 users.
>>>
>>> I don't get paid to do any of this. I get paid to make sales. I
>>> really don't want to have to go back and re-write the whole system.
>>> I'm glad to hear that this will be years down the road.

>>
>>
>> And by then, you may be lying on a beach chair enjoying a tropical
>> drink, and thinking of ways to spend your lottery winnings. That's
>> my plan, anyway. Everyone needs a retirement plan.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>>> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.aty ahoo.com> wrote in
>>> message news:eA1sBmJuGHA.1284@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>
>>> In news:u0x20s$tGHA.5084@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
>>> John Riddle <jriddleatsignwilsongroupnyperiodcom> typed:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I saw on Slipstick.com that the next version of Exchange (Exchange
>>>> 13) will not support Public Folders. The suggestion is to use
>>>> SharePoint instead.
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, I have developed a recruiting solution for our company which
>>>> uses Outlook 2003 and Exchange 2003. We have 3 main Public Contact
>>>> Folders and have about 100,000 contacts in them between the 3
>>>> folders (3 types of contact items). All of these public folders
>>>> have contacts that use a custom form developed with about 50
>>>> custom fields. There is a lot of vbscript behind the forms as well
>>>> as about 45,000 lines of VBA code that processes the items and
>>>> provides automation for many, many repetitive tasks that we do on
>>>> a single contact or many in a search (filter) on the Public
>>>> Folders. We additionally have several Public Calendars and a
>>>> Public Task folder with a custom task form that contains many,
>>>> many custom fields (we don't really use the items in this folder
>>>> as "task" items, but that form had more date fields/controls
>>>> built-in so it was better to use it as a template for our custom
>>>> form than any of the other standard Outlook items). If what I'm hearing
>>>> about the new version of exchange is correct,
>>>> we're going to have to move from a forms-based system built on
>>>> Outlook/Exchange to a web-based system built on
>>>> SharePoint/Exchange/Outlook? (If we can actually successfully
>>>> migrate our functionality to SharePoint)
>>>
>>> You'll be able to see your Sharepoint data in Outlook....
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm having a heart-attack here! I can't imagine what it will take
>>>> to migrate our system to SharePoint. It took 2 years to build as
>>>> it was. Can anyone tell me if they think that SharePoint is
>>>> capable of handling this type of functionality? Will my users have
>>>> to switch between Outlook (sending/recieving/reading mail, tasks,
>>>> calendar items, etc.) and SharePoint for Searching/Recruiting/CRM
>>>> capability and now have to use two separate applications whereas
>>>> now they simply have one interface (Outlook) ?
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>
>>> I don't think your users will notice much of a difference (although
>>> you will). You might try posting in a Sharepoint group for more
>>> advice,
>>> honestly. Note as well that we're talking about something that is
>>> years and years away from happening at this point....E12 will have
>>> public folders (altho they won't be visible in OWA).
>>>
>>> Myself, I'm also annoyed that PFs are going away, but then, I don't
>>> know
>>> much about Sharepoint yet. I may be won over.




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  #7  
Old 09-16-2006, 07:07 AM
Dave Goldman [MSFT]
Guest
 
Default Re: Exchange 13... No Public Folders?



"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.aty ahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eZSh%23jz1GHA.4924@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> In news:eFuGxon1GHA.2196@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
> Dave Goldman [MSFT] <noreply@microsoft.com> typed:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/win...2/default.mspx

>
> Awww. How's that going to help me win the lottery or buy a semitropical
> island paradise?
>
>>
>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.aty ahoo.com> wrote in
>> message news:eQ8xydMwGHA.4612@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> In news:uz4ZJcLwGHA.4876@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
>>> John Riddle <jriddleatsignwilsongroupnyperiodcom> typed:
>>>> Thanks for you detailed response. I don't know much about SharePoint
>>>> either although I've played around enough with WebDAV that I know
>>>> I'm really not excited to learn.
>>>>
>>>> I'm really not an Outlook Developer. I'm a sales person. I taught
>>>> myself in order to develop a much better CRM system than the ACT!
>>>> program that they were using when I started here.
>>>
>>> Good on you - I don't like ACT much. Unfortunately, it does fill a
>>> need.
>>>> It took me 6 months
>>>> to develop a great system and then when users started using it, I
>>>> worked on enhancements and new features in my spare time for another
>>>> 6 months. Its a fantastic system that works better (for our
>>>> purposes) than anything I've seen on the market. There are many
>>>> thousands of lines of VBA/CDO code, hundreds and hundreds of custom
>>>> fields and a couple dozen custom forms. I also Administer the
>>>> Windows 2003/Exchange 2003 Servers that this system runs on as well
>>>> as the desktops. We have about 20 users.
>>>>
>>>> I don't get paid to do any of this. I get paid to make sales. I
>>>> really don't want to have to go back and re-write the whole system.
>>>> I'm glad to hear that this will be years down the road.
>>>
>>>
>>> And by then, you may be lying on a beach chair enjoying a tropical
>>> drink, and thinking of ways to spend your lottery winnings. That's
>>> my plan, anyway. Everyone needs a retirement plan.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>>>> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.aty ahoo.com> wrote in
>>>> message news:eA1sBmJuGHA.1284@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In news:u0x20s$tGHA.5084@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
>>>> John Riddle <jriddleatsignwilsongroupnyperiodcom> typed:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I saw on Slipstick.com that the next version of Exchange (Exchange
>>>>> 13) will not support Public Folders. The suggestion is to use
>>>>> SharePoint instead.
>>>>
>>>> Yes.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I have developed a recruiting solution for our company which
>>>>> uses Outlook 2003 and Exchange 2003. We have 3 main Public Contact
>>>>> Folders and have about 100,000 contacts in them between the 3
>>>>> folders (3 types of contact items). All of these public folders
>>>>> have contacts that use a custom form developed with about 50
>>>>> custom fields. There is a lot of vbscript behind the forms as well
>>>>> as about 45,000 lines of VBA code that processes the items and
>>>>> provides automation for many, many repetitive tasks that we do on
>>>>> a single contact or many in a search (filter) on the Public
>>>>> Folders. We additionally have several Public Calendars and a
>>>>> Public Task folder with a custom task form that contains many,
>>>>> many custom fields (we don't really use the items in this folder
>>>>> as "task" items, but that form had more date fields/controls
>>>>> built-in so it was better to use it as a template for our custom
>>>>> form than any of the other standard Outlook items). If what I'm
>>>>> hearing about the new version of exchange is correct,
>>>>> we're going to have to move from a forms-based system built on
>>>>> Outlook/Exchange to a web-based system built on
>>>>> SharePoint/Exchange/Outlook? (If we can actually successfully
>>>>> migrate our functionality to SharePoint)
>>>>
>>>> You'll be able to see your Sharepoint data in Outlook....
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm having a heart-attack here! I can't imagine what it will take
>>>>> to migrate our system to SharePoint. It took 2 years to build as
>>>>> it was. Can anyone tell me if they think that SharePoint is
>>>>> capable of handling this type of functionality? Will my users have
>>>>> to switch between Outlook (sending/recieving/reading mail, tasks,
>>>>> calendar items, etc.) and SharePoint for Searching/Recruiting/CRM
>>>>> capability and now have to use two separate applications whereas
>>>>> now they simply have one interface (Outlook) ?
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> I don't think your users will notice much of a difference (although
>>>> you will). You might try posting in a Sharepoint group for more
>>>> advice,
>>>> honestly. Note as well that we're talking about something that is
>>>> years and years away from happening at this point....E12 will have
>>>> public folders (altho they won't be visible in OWA).
>>>>
>>>> Myself, I'm also annoyed that PFs are going away, but then, I don't
>>>> know
>>>> much about Sharepoint yet. I may be won over.

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