Deleting an account/bond investment

Version Money 2006 Deluxe

I created these before I had read how to do it properly here on this forum.
Now trying to correct...

When I attempt to Delete them (Portfolio Manager->'common tasks'->'work with
investments'-> 'delete an investment') They disappear from this list and
show up as ‘Closed’ in Accounts list. And they still show up in Reports/Bond
Performance.

When I now try to delete them (Account List -> change account details ->
Delete an account) I get this error message:

Details
Product: Money
ID: obres:34
Source: 15.0
Version: 15.0
Symbolic Name: errUnknown
Message: This operation cannot be performed.

Explanation
Usually caused by a corrupt file.

User Action
Run the Money File Repair tool to fix the problem.


So wondering now if I need to use the File Repair tool really, or more
likely, I've overlooked something like an open position?

I'd start with a Quick Repair

--
Michael Gordon


"rmw" <rmw@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4E332779-C823-48BF-97FF-2B6094BCF3DF@microsoft.com...
> Version Money 2006 Deluxe
>
> I created these before I had read how to do it properly here on this
> forum.
> Now trying to correct...
>
> When I attempt to Delete them (Portfolio Manager->'common tasks'->'work
> with
> investments'-> 'delete an investment') They disappear from this list and
> show up as 'Closed' in Accounts list. And they still show up in
> Reports/Bond
> Performance.
>
> When I now try to delete them (Account List -> change account details ->
> Delete an account) I get this error message:
>
> Details
> Product: Money
> ID: obres:34
> Source: 15.0
> Version: 15.0
> Symbolic Name: errUnknown
> Message: This operation cannot be performed.
>
> Explanation
> Usually caused by a corrupt file.
>
> User Action
> Run the Money File Repair tool to fix the problem.
>
>
> So wondering now if I need to use the File Repair tool really, or more
> likely, I've overlooked something like an open position?

Still get the same error message.
I didn't try the Standard File Repair yet because it asks for more specific
file info.
Do you recommend this as the next best step? Or something other?

Thanks for the feedback
Richard


"Michael Gordon" wrote:

> I'd start with a Quick Repair
>
> --
> Michael Gordon
>
>
> "rmw" <rmw@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4E332779-C823-48BF-97FF-2B6094BCF3DF@microsoft.com...
> > Version Money 2006 Deluxe
> >
> > I created these before I had read how to do it properly here on this
> > forum.
> > Now trying to correct...
> >
> > When I attempt to Delete them (Portfolio Manager->'common tasks'->'work
> > with
> > investments'-> 'delete an investment') They disappear from this list and
> > show up as 'Closed' in Accounts list. And they still show up in
> > Reports/Bond
> > Performance.
> >
> > When I now try to delete them (Account List -> change account details ->
> > Delete an account) I get this error message:
> >
> > Details
> > Product: Money
> > ID: obres:34
> > Source: 15.0
> > Version: 15.0
> > Symbolic Name: errUnknown
> > Message: This operation cannot be performed.
> >
> > Explanation
> > Usually caused by a corrupt file.
> >
> > User Action
> > Run the Money File Repair tool to fix the problem.
> >
> >
> > So wondering now if I need to use the File Repair tool really, or more
> > likely, I've overlooked something like an open position?
>
>
>

If I go to INVESTING -> PORTFOLIO MANAGER -> WORK WITH INVESTMENTS -> DELETE
AN INVESTMENT FROM ALL ACCOUNTS
I get the error:
'You need to close the positions before you can delete the investment.'
Maybe this helps clarify what I've done?

"Michael Gordon" wrote:

> I'd start with a Quick Repair
>
> --
> Michael Gordon
>
>
> "rmw" <rmw@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4E332779-C823-48BF-97FF-2B6094BCF3DF@microsoft.com...
> > Version Money 2006 Deluxe
> >
> > I created these before I had read how to do it properly here on this
> > forum.
> > Now trying to correct...
> >
> > When I attempt to Delete them (Portfolio Manager->'common tasks'->'work
> > with
> > investments'-> 'delete an investment') They disappear from this list and
> > show up as 'Closed' in Accounts list. And they still show up in
> > Reports/Bond
> > Performance.
> >
> > When I now try to delete them (Account List -> change account details ->
> > Delete an account) I get this error message:
> >
> > Details
> > Product: Money
> > ID: obres:34
> > Source: 15.0
> > Version: 15.0
> > Symbolic Name: errUnknown
> > Message: This operation cannot be performed.
> >
> > Explanation
> > Usually caused by a corrupt file.
> >
> > User Action
> > Run the Money File Repair tool to fix the problem.
> >
> >
> > So wondering now if I need to use the File Repair tool really, or more
> > likely, I've overlooked something like an open position?
>
>
>

This is normally caused by still owning a very small fraction of a share in
some account.
"rmw" <rmw@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1E13BE22-8A9B-4EFC-B0AD-D9B3634B4815@microsoft.com...
> If I go to INVESTING -> PORTFOLIO MANAGER -> WORK WITH INVESTMENTS ->
> DELETE
> AN INVESTMENT FROM ALL ACCOUNTS
> I get the error:
> 'You need to close the positions before you can delete the investment.'
> Maybe this helps clarify what I've done?
>
> "Michael Gordon" wrote:
>
>> I'd start with a Quick Repair
>>
>> --
>> Michael Gordon
>>
>>
>> "rmw" <rmw@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:4E332779-C823-48BF-97FF-2B6094BCF3DF@microsoft.com...
>> > Version Money 2006 Deluxe
>> >
>> > I created these before I had read how to do it properly here on this
>> > forum.
>> > Now trying to correct...
>> >
>> > When I attempt to Delete them (Portfolio Manager->'common tasks'->'work
>> > with
>> > investments'-> 'delete an investment') They disappear from this list
>> > and
>> > show up as 'Closed' in Accounts list. And they still show up in
>> > Reports/Bond
>> > Performance.
>> >
>> > When I now try to delete them (Account List -> change account
>> > details ->
>> > Delete an account) I get this error message:
>> >
>> > Details
>> > Product: Money
>> > ID: obres:34
>> > Source: 15.0
>> > Version: 15.0
>> > Symbolic Name: errUnknown
>> > Message: This operation cannot be performed.
>> >
>> > Explanation
>> > Usually caused by a corrupt file.
>> >
>> > User Action
>> > Run the Money File Repair tool to fix the problem.
>> >
>> >
>> > So wondering now if I need to use the File Repair tool really, or more
>> > likely, I've overlooked something like an open position?
>>
>>
>>

If you go the "Account Summary" for your investment account, does the
investment appear there? f so, it means there's a small fractional amount
and the position is open rather than closed.

--
Michael Gordon


"rmw" <rmw@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1E13BE22-8A9B-4EFC-B0AD-D9B3634B4815@microsoft.com...
> If I go to INVESTING -> PORTFOLIO MANAGER -> WORK WITH INVESTMENTS ->
> DELETE
> AN INVESTMENT FROM ALL ACCOUNTS
> I get the error:
> 'You need to close the positions before you can delete the investment.'
> Maybe this helps clarify what I've done?
>
> "Michael Gordon" wrote:
>
>> I'd start with a Quick Repair
>>
>> --
>> Michael Gordon
>>
>>
>> "rmw" <rmw@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:4E332779-C823-48BF-97FF-2B6094BCF3DF@microsoft.com...
>> > Version Money 2006 Deluxe
>> >
>> > I created these before I had read how to do it properly here on this
>> > forum.
>> > Now trying to correct...
>> >
>> > When I attempt to Delete them (Portfolio Manager->'common tasks'->'work
>> > with
>> > investments'-> 'delete an investment') They disappear from this list
>> > and
>> > show up as 'Closed' in Accounts list. And they still show up in
>> > Reports/Bond
>> > Performance.
>> >
>> > When I now try to delete them (Account List -> change account
>> > details ->
>> > Delete an account) I get this error message:
>> >
>> > Details
>> > Product: Money
>> > ID: obres:34
>> > Source: 15.0
>> > Version: 15.0
>> > Symbolic Name: errUnknown
>> > Message: This operation cannot be performed.
>> >
>> > Explanation
>> > Usually caused by a corrupt file.
>> >
>> > User Action
>> > Run the Money File Repair tool to fix the problem.
>> >
>> >
>> > So wondering now if I need to use the File Repair tool really, or more
>> > likely, I've overlooked something like an open position?
>>
>>
>>

I put in a Remove Shares and now when I view Account Summary under Review
Your Portfolio it's not listed. But when I look at work with accounts:
delete an account, open or close an account, it's there. I can delete the
Remove Shares, but not the original Buy position. Just get the error
message: This transaction cannot be entered.
And when I try to delete the account from Account List just gives the error
message: this operation cannot be performed.

By bringing the account balance to zero it doesn't affect my reports but
it's still there... frustrating.


"Michael Gordon" wrote:

> If you go the "Account Summary" for your investment account, does the
> investment appear there? f so, it means there's a small fractional amount
> and the position is open rather than closed.
>
> --
> Michael Gordon
>
>
> "rmw" <rmw@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1E13BE22-8A9B-4EFC-B0AD-D9B3634B4815@microsoft.com...
> > If I go to INVESTING -> PORTFOLIO MANAGER -> WORK WITH INVESTMENTS ->
> > DELETE
> > AN INVESTMENT FROM ALL ACCOUNTS
> > I get the error:
> > 'You need to close the positions before you can delete the investment.'
> > Maybe this helps clarify what I've done?
> >
> > "Michael Gordon" wrote:
> >
> >> I'd start with a Quick Repair
> >>
> >> --
> >> Michael Gordon
> >>
> >>
> >> "rmw" <rmw@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:4E332779-C823-48BF-97FF-2B6094BCF3DF@microsoft.com...
> >> > Version Money 2006 Deluxe
> >> >
> >> > I created these before I had read how to do it properly here on this
> >> > forum.
> >> > Now trying to correct...
> >> >
> >> > When I attempt to Delete them (Portfolio Manager->'common tasks'->'work
> >> > with
> >> > investments'-> 'delete an investment') They disappear from this list
> >> > and
> >> > show up as 'Closed' in Accounts list. And they still show up in
> >> > Reports/Bond
> >> > Performance.
> >> >
> >> > When I now try to delete them (Account List -> change account
> >> > details ->
> >> > Delete an account) I get this error message:
> >> >
> >> > Details
> >> > Product: Money
> >> > ID: obres:34
> >> > Source: 15.0
> >> > Version: 15.0
> >> > Symbolic Name: errUnknown
> >> > Message: This operation cannot be performed.
> >> >
> >> > Explanation
> >> > Usually caused by a corrupt file.
> >> >
> >> > User Action
> >> > Run the Money File Repair tool to fix the problem.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > So wondering now if I need to use the File Repair tool really, or more
> >> > likely, I've overlooked something like an open position?
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

"rmw" <rmw@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A764D8F9-DBD0-4C3A-8CEC-6040BC0FFA1E@microsoft.com...
>I put in a Remove Shares and now when I view Account Summary under
>Review
> Your Portfolio it's not listed. But when I look at work with
> accounts:
> delete an account, open or close an account, it's there. I can
> delete the
> Remove Shares, but not the original Buy position. Just get the
> error
> message: This transaction cannot be entered.
> And when I try to delete the account from Account List just gives
> the error
> message: this operation cannot be performed.
>
> By bringing the account balance to zero it doesn't affect my reports
> but
> it's still there... frustrating.

You might have some very small fractional shares in any one account
that Money rounds to 0 for the purpose of the Account Summary. If
true, it won't show up.

To determine if that's true, edit the final disposal transaction in
each affected account to Qty 0. Copy the recorded qty to the memo to
restore it later. Go to Account Summary, adjust the qty to 0, and look
at the resulting remove shares transaction. Does the remove shares qty
match the previous disposal qty exactly? If not, that's possibly a
source of your problem.

Delete the remove shares transaction and edit the disposal transaction
to use the qty of the deleted remove shares. Check all accounts where
you held that stock because that account might not be the only source
of the problem.

Please report back as to whether this helped.
--
Chris Cowles
Gainesville, FL

I made the remove shares number equal exactly the buy shares number. The
account value is now zero and the Account Summary page reads: 'This account
currently has no investments in it.'

Not sure if that's what you mean by this part?

"Chris Cowles" wrote:
> To determine if that's true, edit the final disposal transaction in
> each affected account to Qty 0. Copy the recorded qty to the memo to
> restore it later. Go to Account Summary, adjust the qty to 0, and look
> at the resulting remove shares transaction. Does the remove shares qty
> match the previous disposal qty exactly? If not, that's possibly a
> source of your problem.
>
> Delete the remove shares transaction and edit the disposal transaction
> to use the qty of the deleted remove shares. Check all accounts where
> you held that stock because that account might not be the only source
> of the problem.
>
> Please report back as to whether this helped.
> --
> Chris Cowles
> Gainesville, FL
>
>
>

"rmw" <rmw@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I made the remove shares number equal exactly the buy shares number.
>The
> account value is now zero and the Account Summary page reads: 'This
> account
> currently has no investments in it.'
>
> Not sure if that's what you mean by this part?

Don't 'make' the remove shares number equal exactly the buy shares
number. Adjust the total shares in account summary to zero, and let
Money determine what the remove shares quantity should be. Under some
circumstances, it might be infintesimally different from 0, but not 0.

This may not apply to your situation. It is a suggestion for a means
to discover why Money won't let you delete the investment.