Can signatures be setup for 'top-posting'

Don't flame me about bottom-posting vs top-posting. I prefer
bottom-posting in both email and newsgroups myself. But at work, I am
vastly outnumbered by Outlook users, and it is not reasonable for me to
write my responses at the bottom of long email threads that go the other
direction.

So, my question is: is there a way to make mutt add its signature at the
top in a suitable fashion to accomodate this standard? Currently, what I
have to do is page to the bottom of the thread I'm replying to, cut my
signature out, return to the top and paste it. Its a pain.

Thanks.
-Jeff

On Mon, 17 May 2004 17:01:30 GMT, Jeffrey Cunningham wrote:

> vastly outnumbered by Outlook users, and it is not reasonable for me to
> write my responses at the bottom of long email threads that go the other
> direction.

You could always cut the redundant quotes...

> So, my question is: is there a way to make mutt add its signature at the
> top in a suitable fashion to accomodate this standard? Currently, what I

No.

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On Mon, 17 May 2004 17:01:30 GMT, Jeffrey Cunningham wrote:
> Don't flame me about bottom-posting vs top-posting. I prefer
> bottom-posting in both email and newsgroups myself. But at work, I am
> vastly outnumbered by Outlook users, and it is not reasonable for me to
> write my responses at the bottom of long email threads that go the other
> direction.

Argh. Damn, but that's hard....

> So, my question is: is there a way to make mutt add its signature at the
> top in a suitable fashion to accomodate this standard? Currently, what I
> have to do is page to the bottom of the thread I'm replying to, cut my
> signature out, return to the top and paste it. Its a pain.

Set $signature to null, set your editor command to insert your signature
at the top or after the first blank line, depending on whether you edit
headers or not. Details left as an exercise, but I know I've seen awk
scripts for doing such things with vi.

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On Mon, 17 May 2004 13:20:01 -0500, Peter H. Coffin wrote:

> On Mon, 17 May 2004 17:01:30 GMT, Jeffrey Cunningham wrote:
>> Don't flame me about bottom-posting vs top-posting. I prefer
>> bottom-posting in both email and newsgroups myself. But at work, I am
>> vastly outnumbered by Outlook users, and it is not reasonable for me to
>> write my responses at the bottom of long email threads that go the other
>> direction.
>
> Argh. Damn, but that's hard....
>
>> So, my question is: is there a way to make mutt add its signature at the
>> top in a suitable fashion to accomodate this standard? Currently, what I
>> have to do is page to the bottom of the thread I'm replying to, cut my
>> signature out, return to the top and paste it. Its a pain.
>
> Set $signature to null, set your editor command to insert your signature
> at the top or after the first blank line, depending on whether you edit
> headers or not. Details left as an exercise, but I know I've seen awk
> scripts for doing such things with vi.

Hmmmm... Now there's an idea. If there's no built in way, I can probably
make that work. Thanks.

-Jeff

On Mon, 17 May 2004 19:41:28 GMT, Jeffrey Cunningham
<jeffrey.k.cunningham@boeing.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 17 May 2004 13:20:01 -0500, Peter H. Coffin wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 17 May 2004 17:01:30 GMT, Jeffrey Cunningham wrote:
>>> Don't flame me about bottom-posting vs top-posting. I prefer
>>> bottom-posting in both email and newsgroups myself. But at work, I am
>>> vastly outnumbered by Outlook users, and it is not reasonable for me to
>>> write my responses at the bottom of long email threads that go the other
>>> direction.
>>
>> Argh. Damn, but that's hard....
>>
>>> So, my question is: is there a way to make mutt add its signature at the
>>> top in a suitable fashion to accomodate this standard? Currently, what I
>>> have to do is page to the bottom of the thread I'm replying to, cut my
>>> signature out, return to the top and paste it. Its a pain.
>>
>> Set $signature to null, set your editor command to insert your signature
>> at the top or after the first blank line, depending on whether you edit
>> headers or not. Details left as an exercise, but I know I've seen awk
>> scripts for doing such things with vi.
>
> Hmmmm... Now there's an idea. If there's no built in way, I can probably
> make that work. Thanks.
>
> -Jeff

Use 'set sig_on_top'. It is in 1.5.4

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On Mon, 17 May 2004 22:39:03 GMT, Brian Salter-Duke wrote:

> Use 'set sig_on_top'. It is in 1.5.4

So it is, I'd forgotten about that. Oops.

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Jeffrey Cunningham <jeffrey.k.cunningham@boeing.com> wrote:
> Don't flame me about bottom-posting vs top-posting. I prefer
> bottom-posting in both email and newsgroups myself. But at work, I am
> vastly outnumbered by Outlook users, and it is not reasonable for me to
> write my responses at the bottom of long email threads that go the other
> direction.
>
If I *need* to reply to a long thread arranged this way I actually
re-arrange all the Outlook rubbish the *right* way (with lots of
snipping) and then ask everyone to reply below so that the result
remains vaguely intelligible.

--
Chris Green

On Mon, 17 May 2004 22:39:03 +0000, Brian Salter-Duke wrote:

> Use 'set sig_on_top'. It is in 1.5.4


Thank you! I sort of figured a code as extensible as Mutt would have
worked this problem already. However self-satisfying it might be to try to
*correct* the world, it is not always worth the energy expenditure.
Its not the hill I want to die on. ;-)

Thanks again.

-Jeff

Jeffrey Cunningham <jeffrey.k.cunningham@boeing.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 17 May 2004 22:39:03 +0000, Brian Salter-Duke wrote:
>
>> Use 'set sig_on_top'. It is in 1.5.4
>
>
> Thank you! I sort of figured a code as extensible as Mutt would have
> worked this problem already. However self-satisfying it might be to try to
> *correct* the world, it is not always worth the energy expenditure.
> Its not the hill I want to die on. ;-)

Right. I correspond with mostly Outlook users at work, so I have
these macros for switching between Outlook and "Internet" reply
styles.

# Turn Outlook-style replies on (,O) and off (,o).
#
macro index ,O ':set sig_on_top;set indent_string="";set header;set attribution="-----Original Message-----"<Return>' "set Outlook-style replies"
macro pager ,O ':set sig_on_top;set indent_string="";set header;set attribution="-----Original Message-----"<Return>' "set Outlook-style replies"
macro index ,o ':unset sig_on_top;set indent_string="> ";unset header;set attribution="On %{%Y-%m-%d}, %f wrote:"<Return>' "set Internet-style replies"
macro pager ,o ':unset sig_on_top;set indent_string="> ";unset header;set attribution="On %{%Y-%m-%d}, %f wrote:"<Return>' "set Internet-style replies"

HTH,
Gary