unwanted horizontal scroll bar in left frame

#1 06-26-2008, 11:30 AM

(this is a problem w NOF 7.5 -- however, that forum seems inactive)

hi all, i'm remodeling an older website that i did using frames.... suddenly
the left side frame is not as wide as it should be, and instead has a
horizontal scroll bar. it looks fine (no scroll bar) in local publishing
(IE)
here's a view: http://www.calkinsart.net/thumbs/htm...bspt_2005.html

i did not change any values, as far as i know.
i imported the template from my W98 into my XP computer, running NOF 7.5,
same program as on the W98.

TIA -- sabine

ps. turns out the view of the side menu in *firefox* is totally off. i
changed to a table for the text, in order to get it lined up better. is this
part of the problem?

#2 06-26-2008, 12:48 PM

You can have masterborders without frames.

Read this: Why Frames are Evil
http://www.html-faq.com/htmlframes/?framesareevil

--Nancy O.
Alt-Web Design & Publishing
www.alt-web.com

"sabine" <sabcalk@calkinsart.net> wrote in message
news:g40cpt$73p5@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> (this is a problem w NOF 7.5 -- however, that forum seems inactive)
>
> hi all, i'm remodeling an older website that i did using frames....
suddenly
> the left side frame is not as wide as it should be, and instead has a
> horizontal scroll bar. it looks fine (no scroll bar) in local publishing
> (IE)
> here's a view: http://www.calkinsart.net/thumbs/htm...bspt_2005.html
>
> i did not change any values, as far as i know.
> i imported the template from my W98 into my XP computer, running NOF 7.5,
> same program as on the W98.
>
> TIA -- sabine
>
> ps. turns out the view of the side menu in *firefox* is totally off. i
> changed to a table for the text, in order to get it lined up better. is
this
> part of the problem?
>
>

#3 06-26-2008, 05:01 PM

Nancy -- the new pages i made are w/out frames.

for the old ones i am stuck w frames -- i just want to edit them to make
them streamlined. even though the width of the left frame is marked at 245,
something is overriding it and making it narrow. where would i find this in
the html to correct it?

sabine

"Nancy O" <nancyoshea1@NOSPAMatt.net> wrote in message
news:g40h9m$8k62@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> You can have masterborders without frames.
>
> Read this: Why Frames are Evil
> http://www.html-faq.com/htmlframes/?framesareevil
>
>
> --Nancy O.
> Alt-Web Design & Publishing
> www.alt-web.com
>
>
> "sabine" <sabcalk@calkinsart.net> wrote in message
> news:g40cpt$73p5@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>> (this is a problem w NOF 7.5 -- however, that forum seems inactive)
>>
>> hi all, i'm remodeling an older website that i did using frames....
> suddenly
>> the left side frame is not as wide as it should be, and instead has a
>> horizontal scroll bar. it looks fine (no scroll bar) in local publishing
>> (IE)
>> here's a view: http://www.calkinsart.net/thumbs/htm...bspt_2005.html
>>
>> i did not change any values, as far as i know.
>> i imported the template from my W98 into my XP computer, running NOF 7.5,
>> same program as on the W98.
>>
>> TIA -- sabine
>>
>> ps. turns out the view of the side menu in *firefox* is totally off. i
>> changed to a table for the text, in order to get it lined up better. is
> this
>> part of the problem?
>>
>>
>
>

#4 06-26-2008, 07:02 PM

Make leftframe wider to accomodate the content inside it. Scrollbars will go
away (until someone increases text size in their browser).

--Nancy O.
Alt-Web Design & Publishing
www.alt-web.com

"sabine" <sabcalk@calkinsart.net> wrote in message
news:g4106t$a0q4@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> Nancy -- the new pages i made are w/out frames.
>
> for the old ones i am stuck w frames -- i just want to edit them to make
> them streamlined. even though the width of the left frame is marked at
245,
> something is overriding it and making it narrow. where would i find this
in
> the html to correct it?
>
> sabine
>
>
> "Nancy O" <nancyoshea1@NOSPAMatt.net> wrote in message
> news:g40h9m$8k62@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> > You can have masterborders without frames.
> >
> > Read this: Why Frames are Evil
> > http://www.html-faq.com/htmlframes/?framesareevil
> >
> >
> > --Nancy O.
> > Alt-Web Design & Publishing
> > www.alt-web.com
> >
> >
> > "sabine" <sabcalk@calkinsart.net> wrote in message
> > news:g40cpt$73p5@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> >> (this is a problem w NOF 7.5 -- however, that forum seems inactive)
> >>
> >> hi all, i'm remodeling an older website that i did using frames....
> > suddenly
> >> the left side frame is not as wide as it should be, and instead has a
> >> horizontal scroll bar. it looks fine (no scroll bar) in local
publishing
> >> (IE)
> >> here's a view: http://www.calkinsart.net/thumbs/htm...bspt_2005.html
> >>
> >> i did not change any values, as far as i know.
> >> i imported the template from my W98 into my XP computer, running NOF
7.5,
> >> same program as on the W98.
> >>
> >> TIA -- sabine
> >>
> >> ps. turns out the view of the side menu in *firefox* is totally off. i
> >> changed to a table for the text, in order to get it lined up better. is
> > this
> >> part of the problem?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

#5 06-26-2008, 08:07 PM

i did that........... and yet in IE, published on the net the left frame is
narrow w scroll bar.

http://www.calkinsart.net/thumbs/htm...bspt_2005.html -- published
locally, it has a wide frame (245 pixels) and no scroll bar ...

sabine

that is why this is such a myster
"Nancy O" <nancyoshea1@NOSPAMatt.net> wrote in message
news:g41769$b861@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> Make leftframe wider to accomodate the content inside it. Scrollbars will
> go
> away (until someone increases text size in their browser).
>
>
> --Nancy O.
> Alt-Web Design & Publishing
> www.alt-web.com
>
> "sabine" <sabcalk@calkinsart.net> wrote in message
> news:g4106t$a0q4@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>> Nancy -- the new pages i made are w/out frames.
>>
>> for the old ones i am stuck w frames -- i just want to edit them to make
>> them streamlined. even though the width of the left frame is marked at
> 245,
>> something is overriding it and making it narrow. where would i find this
> in
>> the html to correct it?
>>
>> sabine
>>
>>
>> "Nancy O" <nancyoshea1@NOSPAMatt.net> wrote in message
>> news:g40h9m$8k62@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>> > You can have masterborders without frames.
>> >
>> > Read this: Why Frames are Evil
>> > http://www.html-faq.com/htmlframes/?framesareevil
>> >
>> >
>> > --Nancy O.
>> > Alt-Web Design & Publishing
>> > www.alt-web.com
>> >
>> >
>> > "sabine" <sabcalk@calkinsart.net> wrote in message
>> > news:g40cpt$73p5@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>> >> (this is a problem w NOF 7.5 -- however, that forum seems inactive)
>> >>
>> >> hi all, i'm remodeling an older website that i did using frames....
>> > suddenly
>> >> the left side frame is not as wide as it should be, and instead has a
>> >> horizontal scroll bar. it looks fine (no scroll bar) in local
> publishing
>> >> (IE)
>> >> here's a view:
>> >> http://www.calkinsart.net/thumbs/htm...bspt_2005.html
>> >>
>> >> i did not change any values, as far as i know.
>> >> i imported the template from my W98 into my XP computer, running NOF
> 7.5,
>> >> same program as on the W98.
>> >>
>> >> TIA -- sabine
>> >>
>> >> ps. turns out the view of the side menu in *firefox* is totally off. i
>> >> changed to a table for the text, in order to get it lined up better.
>> >> is
>> > this
>> >> part of the problem?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

#6 06-27-2008, 03:25 PM

Waiving the right to remain silent, "sabine" <sabcalk@calkinsart.net>
said:

> i did that........... and yet in IE, published on the net the left
> frame is narrow w scroll bar.
>
> http://www.calkinsart.net/thumbs/htm...bspt_2005.html -- published
> locally, it has a wide frame (245 pixels) and no scroll bar ...

The placement of some stuff in your left navigation frame is whacky. An
image of a bird displays off to the right near the top in IE, but closer to
the middle and on top of some text in Firefox.

--
Larry J. - Remove spamtrap in ALLCAPS to e-mail

"A lack of common sense is now considered a disability,
with all the privileges that this entails."

#7 06-27-2008, 04:02 PM

Fixed division layout would cause this. Dynamic layouts give much better
cross browser rendering.

Also, the scrollbar style is useless in any browser except IE, so I would
take it out.

Try making your frame width 400px and see if that gets rid of the
scrollbars.

--Nancy O.
Alt-Web Design & Publishing
www.alt-web.com

"Larry in AZ" <usenet2@DELETE.THISljvideo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9ACA7DC68631Ethefrogprince@64.69.219.46...
> Waiving the right to remain silent, "sabine" <sabcalk@calkinsart.net>
> said:
>
> > i did that........... and yet in IE, published on the net the left
> > frame is narrow w scroll bar.
> >
> > http://www.calkinsart.net/thumbs/htm...bspt_2005.html -- published
> > locally, it has a wide frame (245 pixels) and no scroll bar ...
>
> The placement of some stuff in your left navigation frame is whacky. An
> image of a bird displays off to the right near the top in IE, but closer
to
> the middle and on top of some text in Firefox.
>
> --
> Larry J. - Remove spamtrap in ALLCAPS to e-mail
>
> "A lack of common sense is now considered a disability,
> with all the privileges that this entails."

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