Very OT: My Disability

On Jul 28, 11:55 am, Radium <gluceg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear All:
>
> I have a neurological disability called Asperger's Syndrome.
>
> I would like to give you some information about my disability. The
> reason I am posting this message about Asperger's is to help avoid any
> potential misunderstandings [though it's probably too late].
>
> I have been diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome (AS). AS is a
> neurological condition that causes significant impairment in social
> interactions. People with AS see the world differently and this can
> often bring them in conflict with conventional ways of thinking. They
> have difficulty in reading body language, and interpreting subtle
> cues. In my situation, I have significant difficulty with natural
> conversation, reading social cues, and maintaining eye contact. This
> can lead to a great deal of misunderstanding about my intent or my
> behavior. For example, I may not always know what to say in social
> situations, so I may look away or may not say anything. I also may not
> always respond quickly when asked direct questions, but if given time
> I am able express my ideas.
>
> On Usenet, the text-equivalent of my disability is probably noticed. I
> do apologize profusely, for any inconvenience it causes.
>
> Thank you very much in advance for your understanding, cooperation,
> and assistance.
>
> Regards,
>
> Radium

At least you don't have Ass-Burger Syndrome, like some people around
here.

Don Phillipson wrote:
> "Radium" <glucegen1@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1185648947.889391.292010@m37g2000prh.googlegr oups.com...
>
>> I have a neurological disability called Asperger's Syndrome.
>> . . . People with AS see the world differently and this can
>> often bring them in conflict with conventional ways of thinking.
>
> None of the social difficulties listed occurs in newsgroup
> posts -- which suggests a solution. After writing a message,
> set it aside for one day and review it before posting. This
> way you can conform to others' expectations in the way you want.

I have lived with and mentored a youth with Asperger's who is active on
internet chat rooms. Either Radium's problem is something else or --
more likely, I think -- he's a troll.

Jerry
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jomama <lulutosirlove@gmail.com> said in news:1185697806.468214.105970
@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com:

> On Jul 29, 12:36 am, Rectum Burn
> <rectumbur...@hotmailremovethisspamtrap.com> wrote:
>> Radium <gluceg...@gmail.com> said in news:1185648947.889391.292010
>> @m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > Dear All:
>>
>> > I have a neurological disability called Asperger's Syndrome.
>>
>> Nobody gives a fuck, dufus.
>>
>> HTH TIA
>>
>> Rectum Burrrrrrrrrrn
>
>

Did I dumbfound you or are you just too stupid to type?

Rectum Burrrrrrn

On Jul 28, 9:38?pm, "winston19842...@yahoo.com"
<winston19842...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 28, 2:55 pm, Radium <gluceg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Should be easy on Usenet then. There isn't any "natural conversation",
> no social cues, no eye contact. And AS patients often do have very
> narrow interests. But I've never seen it to the point you did about
> video cards.
>
> Both my son and my wife have AS. Usually when I tell them to stop
> obsessing about something during a conversation they do.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -



Well that's rubbish! AS - people with Asperger's Syndrome - are NOT
patients!! Whoever said that is an idiot!!!

It's like saying: black skinned means being a "patient" because black
skin is "different". And the word Patient implies being unwell and
needing a "cure". Asperger's is a name for higher intelligence and a
better wired brain for learning, innovation and honesty as a opposed
to fluffing about, chatting shit and gossip, judging others behind
their back while pretenting to be their friend to their face i.e.
"socialising". NT's need designer labels to make them feel good about
their insecure sheep-like (mentality) selves. Autistics only care
about their passions (compuetrs, art, physics, inventing, music,
creating stuff with their hands - useful stuff that diffirentiates
humans from animals. Peacocks also care about strutting their stuff -
like NTs and judge each other on appearance. Autistics don't).

THAT needs a cure!!! a Neurotypical brain, I think you'll find - is
the one that's FLAWED. Autistic brain is a Human brain made the way
GOD intended it to be.

Roza

On Aug 1, 7:04 am, Rozagy <Roz...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jul 28, 9:38?pm, "winston19842...@yahoo.com"
>
> <winston19842...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Jul 28, 2:55 pm, Radium <gluceg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Should be easy on Usenet then. There isn't any "natural conversation",
> > no social cues, no eye contact. And AS patients often do have very
> > narrow interests. But I've never seen it to the point you did about
> > video cards.
>
> > Both my son and my wife have AS. Usually when I tell them to stop
> > obsessing about something during a conversation they do.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Well that's rubbish! AS - people with Asperger's Syndrome - are NOT
> patients!! Whoever said that is an idiot!!!
>
> It's like saying: black skinned means being a "patient" because black
> skin is "different". And the word Patient implies being unwell and
> needing a "cure". Asperger's is a name for higher intelligence and a
> better wired brain for learning, innovation and honesty as a opposed
> to fluffing about, chatting shit and gossip, judging others behind
> their back while pretenting to be their friend to their face i.e.
> "socialising". NT's need designer labels to make them feel good about
> their insecure sheep-like (mentality) selves. Autistics only care
> about their passions (compuetrs, art, physics, inventing, music,
> creating stuff with their hands - useful stuff that diffirentiates
> humans from animals. Peacocks also care about strutting their stuff -
> like NTs and judge each other on appearance. Autistics don't).
>
> THAT needs a cure!!! a Neurotypical brain, I think you'll find - is
> the one that's FLAWED. Autistic brain is a Human brain made the way
> GOD intended it to be.
>
> Roza

We are all patients at one time or another.
Perhaps "patient" was the wrong choice. "Sufferer" would not be
correct either. "Diagnosed with" perhaps.
But if you just want to nitpick, you'd find fault with any of them...

On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 04:04:50 -0700, Rozagy <Rozagy@aol.com>
wrote:

<snip>

>... Asperger's is a name for higher intelligence and a
>better wired brain for learning, innovation and honesty as a opposed
>to fluffing about, chatting shit and gossip, judging others behind
>their back while pretenting to be their friend to their face i.e.
>"socialising". NT's need designer labels to make them feel good about
>their insecure sheep-like (mentality) selves.

That's all a load of nonsense. Asperger's is just another
way of saying someone spent substantially more time focused
on certain mental exercises /other/ than social interaction.
What one does regularly, one becomes good at, while also
building skills applicable to somewhat similar endeavors.
Unfortunately if one shuns social interaction too much, it
is going to be more difficult for them to "catch up" to some
kind of average set of social skills, because as a person
grows, matures, ages, they have a self-evolution in their
personal identity and the way they interact socially will
be changing and evolving.

Also, you're more than a wee bit paranoid if the only two
alternatives would be asperger's or direct communication
with others who would /supposedly/ think negatively about
you. There certainly are people who just "fluff about" or
chatter away, but the classification has no bearing on
contrasts with asperger's labeled individuals, except of
course that if they don't find social interactions pleasant,
naturally they wouldn't be chattering away.




>THAT needs a cure!!! a Neurotypical brain, I think you'll find - is
>the one that's FLAWED. Autistic brain is a Human brain made the way
>GOD intended it to be.

In your eyes God intends for you to shun interactions with
your own (human) race? IMO, you need to be a little less
subjective about this. There is a happy medium.

On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 04:04:50 -0700, Rozagy <Rozagy@aol.com> wrote:

>On Jul 28, 9:38?pm, "winston19842...@yahoo.com"
><winston19842...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Jul 28, 2:55 pm, Radium <gluceg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Should be easy on Usenet then. There isn't any "natural conversation",
>> no social cues, no eye contact. And AS patients often do have very
>> narrow interests. But I've never seen it to the point you did about
>> video cards.
>>
>> Both my son and my wife have AS. Usually when I tell them to stop
>> obsessing about something during a conversation they do.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>
>
>Well that's rubbish! AS - people with Asperger's Syndrome - are NOT
>patients!! Whoever said that is an idiot!!!
>
>It's like saying: black skinned means being a "patient" because black
>skin is "different". And the word Patient implies being unwell and
>needing a "cure". Asperger's is a name for higher intelligence and a
>better wired brain for learning, innovation and honesty as a opposed
>to fluffing about, chatting shit and gossip, judging others behind
>their back while pretenting to be their friend to their face i.e.
>"socialising". NT's need designer labels to make them feel good about
>their insecure sheep-like (mentality) selves. Autistics only care
>about their passions (compuetrs, art, physics, inventing, music,
>creating stuff with their hands - useful stuff that diffirentiates
>humans from animals. Peacocks also care about strutting their stuff -
>like NTs and judge each other on appearance. Autistics don't).
>
>THAT needs a cure!!! a Neurotypical brain, I think you'll find - is
>the one that's FLAWED. Autistic brain is a Human brain made the way
>GOD intended it to be.

---
How nice for you to be able to determine God's intentions.

Next, since you seem to believe that you're God's hands on this
Earth, I'm sure you'll be advocating an autistic takeover, where all
brains not capable of narrowband activity will be eliminated,
Hitleresque.

Should that come to pass, your society will "progress" to the point
where the determination of mental bandwidth ("Q") will determine who
lives and dies, with the less slowly rising slopes being relegated
to becoming fertilizer.

Eventually, though, as Q is forced to increase and the distance
between interlocked signal sources also increases, the point will
come where the demise of one peak will domino across your landscape
and leave you all wondering what went wrong.

Too bad, since all you would have to have done to avoid the meltdown
would have been to recognize and accept resistance.


--
JF

kony wrote:

(snip)

> That's all a load of nonsense. Asperger's is just another
> way of saying someone spent substantially more time focused
> on certain mental exercises /other/ than social interaction.

I doubt many readers here believe that. Most of us knew very
early that we were good at science, math, or engineering.
It wasn't that we chose those things, we were already good
at them.

> What one does regularly, one becomes good at, while also
> building skills applicable to somewhat similar endeavors.
> Unfortunately if one shuns social interaction too much, it
> is going to be more difficult for them to "catch up" to some
> kind of average set of social skills, because as a person
> grows, matures, ages, they have a self-evolution in their
> personal identity and the way they interact socially will
> be changing and evolving.

> Also, you're more than a wee bit paranoid if the only two
> alternatives would be asperger's or direct communication
> with others who would /supposedly/ think negatively about
> you.

My understanding is that there is a continuum, not a
yes or no decision. As with many genetic traits, a little
is good but a lot can be bad.

> There certainly are people who just "fluff about" or
> chatter away, but the classification has no bearing on
> contrasts with asperger's labeled individuals, except of
> course that if they don't find social interactions pleasant,
> naturally they wouldn't be chattering away.

Most who post to comp.dsp (where I am posting this) are pretty
smart, but also good at chattering. (If not, they wouldn't
be posting.)

>>THAT needs a cure!!! a Neurotypical brain, I think you'll find - is
>>the one that's FLAWED. Autistic brain is a Human brain made the way
>>GOD intended it to be.

That one I don't understand at all.

> In your eyes God intends for you to shun interactions with
> your own (human) race? IMO, you need to be a little less
> subjective about this. There is a happy medium.

As I understand it, some believe that there is a connection between
autism and Aspergers, and others don't. Either way, some of
us are better at science and engineering than others, and some are
better at communicating than others. The variety is the way God
intended it, that is, genetic diversity.

-- glen

On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 04:16:02 -0700, "winston19842005@yahoo.com"
<winston19842005@yahoo.com> wrote:


>We are all patients at one time or another.
>Perhaps "patient" was the wrong choice. "Sufferer" would not be
>correct either. "Diagnosed with" perhaps.
>But if you just want to nitpick, you'd find fault with any of them...

---
When you feel the need to call on the services of a medical doctor,
the diagnosis of your condition will take time, so you must be
patient while that's being done.

Once the determination has been made as to where the problem lies
and what the best course is toward its remediation, you must still
be patient while you heal.


--
JF

kony wrote:

...

> That's all a load of nonsense. Asperger's is just another
> way of saying someone spent substantially more time focused
> on certain mental exercises /other/ than social interaction.
> What one does regularly, one becomes good at, while also
> building skills applicable to somewhat similar endeavors.

That's a load of nonsense.

...

Jerry
--
Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.
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