Deleting mails on the ISP server - Pegasus

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    Esteemed anti-spam Gurus :-)

    I have been looking at Pegasus v 4.2 with the hope of setting up a filter
    based on an addressbook or a distribution list. As usual Peg's Help file
    falls very short. I created a distrib list but had to stop there. It's not
    clear to me
    whether the /MATCH *@domain.com accepts or doesn't mails from that domain.
    I'm also not clear on the filter setting for blocking all "From:" email
    addresses that are
    not on the distr list. I did searches and came up with a big bunch of hits
    but didn't
    get the answers I needed.

    I just discovered that Peg can do SS deletes. Does anyone have a tutorial or
    guide to the settings. Just to accept and dnload the mails from members of a
    list
    or addressbook and delete the rest.

    At this point I thought of Mailwasher, which I am using (v 2.0.14 beta) and
    works very well but it's very tedious to click the little boxes for 40 crap
    mails. If I could delete all the non-Friends mail with one button, that
    would be great and much more convenient than downloading all the mails into
    Pegasus. Mailwasher Pro claims to have all sorts of sophisticated filter
    processes, which are then updated for an annual fee. However, this seems to
    me to be a lost cause because of the infinitely variable ways the spammers
    can use. Killing all mail that doesn't come from addresses on the Friends
    list looks like the best bet to me. However, the version I have allows only
    about 10 names on the list.

    I also tried twice to take them up on the offer of an upgrade to the pro
    for $20 but when I tried it would not accept $US. Has the hatred gone this
    far?
    Anyone know if the pro has the button I mentioned above - that deletes all
    non-friends mail with one click?

    Comments appreciated.

    Thanks.

    RF







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    RedFox <RedFox@NoDen.con> organized electrons in article
    news:zstid.3709$O11.3504@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net that appeared
    as follows:
    > Pegasus v 4.2 ... setting up a filter based on an addressbook or a

    distribution list

    Per the newsgroup charters, please post Pegasus questions in
    comp.mail.pegasus-mail.ms-windows

    --
    Thanks and Best Regards, Jeff G.
    My email address in the following is ROT13 encoded to reduce spam:
    Guvf vf gur rznvy nqqerff: WIQTWBBBJIAI@fcnzzbgry.pbz


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    On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 17:15:11 GMT, "RedFox" <RedFox@NoDen.con> wrote:

    >Esteemed anti-spam Gurus :-)
    >
    >I have been looking at Pegasus v 4.2 with the hope of setting up a filter
    >based on an addressbook or a distribution list. As usual Peg's Help file
    >falls very short. I created a distrib list but had to stop there. It's not
    >clear to me
    >whether the /MATCH *@domain.com accepts or doesn't mails from that domain.
    >I'm also not clear on the filter setting for blocking all "From:" email
    >addresses that are
    >not on the distr list. I did searches and came up with a big bunch of hits
    >but didn't
    >get the answers I needed.
    >
    >I just discovered that Peg can do SS deletes. Does anyone have a tutorial or
    >guide to the settings. Just to accept and dnload the mails from members of a
    >list
    >or addressbook and delete the rest.
    >
    >At this point I thought of Mailwasher, which I am using (v 2.0.14 beta) and
    >works very well but it's very tedious to click the little boxes for 40 crap
    >mails. If I could delete all the non-Friends mail with one button, that
    >would be great and much more convenient than downloading all the mails into
    >Pegasus. Mailwasher Pro claims to have all sorts of sophisticated filter
    >processes, which are then updated for an annual fee. However, this seems to
    >me to be a lost cause because of the infinitely variable ways the spammers
    >can use. Killing all mail that doesn't come from addresses on the Friends
    >list looks like the best bet to me. However, the version I have allows only
    >about 10 names on the list.
    >
    >I also tried twice to take them up on the offer of an upgrade to the pro
    >for $20 but when I tried it would not accept $US. Has the hatred gone this
    >far?
    >Anyone know if the pro has the button I mentioned above - that deletes all
    >non-friends mail with one click?
    >
    >Comments appreciated.
    >
    >Thanks.
    >RF


    What you're looking for is the filtering options in Pegasus Mail.
    While there isn't specifically a "White List" option, which is what
    you describe, you can get the same effect (almost) using the
    following:

    1. Make notes of each of the email addresses to accept
    2. Set up a filter rule for each one, with the action being "Exit this
    rule Set"
    3. Set up a final filter rule which deletes all messages.
    ( "Add Rule / Always Triggers" )

    This should let you keep the addresses you wish to accept, yet delete
    all the rest.

    See the help in Pegasus Mail - "Mail Filtering Rules" for more info.

    Hope this helps,
    Anthony Albert

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    Anthony J. Albert (ajalbert@excite.com) wrote in comp.mail.pegasus-mail.misc:
    > While there isn't specifically a "White List" option


    Actually, there is, it's just not named "White List".

    Put the "good" addresses into an PM distribution list, then use the "List
    Scan" rule, so you have something like this:

    If ListScan "@WHITE.PML" Exit

    --
    Jeff Rife |
    SPAM bait: | http://www.nabs.net/Cartoons/OverThe...orRealLife.gif
    AskDOJ@usdoj.gov |
    spam@ftc.gov |

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    "Jeff G."
    <WIQTWBBBJIAI%fcnzzbgry%pbz%PRECEDING%ROT13%ENCODED%TO%DESPAM%US@example.com
    > wrote in message news:Uouid.116363$Ot3.18804@twister.nyc.rr.com...
    > RedFox <RedFox@NoDen.con> organized electrons in article
    > news:zstid.3709$O11.3504@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net that appeared
    > as follows:
    > > Pegasus v 4.2 ... setting up a filter based on an addressbook or a

    > distribution list
    >
    > Per the newsgroup charters, please post Pegasus questions in
    > comp.mail.pegasus-mail.ms-windows
    >
    > --
    > Thanks and Best Regards, Jeff G.
    > My email address in the following is ROT13 encoded to reduce spam:
    > Guvf vf gur rznvy nqqerff: WIQTWBBBJIAI@fcnzzbgry.pbz


    Sorry Jeff, I had no idea.

    I have posted many times to this list and nobody brought this up. Misc
    suggests "everything" to me. Why isn't the name:

    comp.mail.pegasus.no.windows

    if it is what you say?

    RF



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    Thanks Jeff and Anthony for the suggestions.

    I already have the distribution list. Is it automatically put into the White
    list?

    So I need to make a SS pop3 rule text file with something like:

    1 If ListScan "@WHITELIST.PML" Download ""
    2 What rule to delete the remaining emails?
    3 Always Exit ""

    TIA

    RF

    "Jeff Rife" <wevsr@nabs.net> wrote in message
    news:MPG.1bf455b7c93959f29898d4@news.nabs.net...
    > Anthony J. Albert (ajalbert@excite.com) wrote in

    comp.mail.pegasus-mail.misc:
    > > While there isn't specifically a "White List" option

    >
    > Actually, there is, it's just not named "White List".
    >
    > Put the "good" addresses into an PM distribution list, then use the "List
    > Scan" rule, so you have something like this:
    >
    > If ListScan "@WHITE.PML" Exit
    >
    > --
    > Jeff Rife |
    > SPAM bait: |

    http://www.nabs.net/Cartoons/OverThe...orRealLife.gif
    > AskDOJ@usdoj.gov |
    > spam@ftc.gov |




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    Madra Rua <madra@rua.net> organized electrons in article
    news:Rmyid.17750$KJ6.6594@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net that
    appeared as follows:
    > "Jeff G."
    >

    <WIQTWBBBJIAI%fcnzzbgry%pbz%PRECEDING%ROT13%ENCODED%TO%DESPAM%US@example
    ..com
    >> wrote in message news:Uouid.116363$Ot3.18804@twister.nyc.rr.com...
    >> RedFox <RedFox@NoDen.con> organized electrons in article
    >> news:zstid.3709$O11.3504@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net that
    >> appeared as follows:
    >>> Pegasus v 4.2 ... setting up a filter based on an addressbook or a
    >>> distribution list

    >>
    >> Per the newsgroup charters, please post Pegasus questions in
    >> comp.mail.pegasus-mail.ms-windows
    >>
    >> --
    >> Thanks and Best Regards, Jeff G.
    >> My email address in the following is ROT13 encoded to reduce spam:
    >> Guvf vf gur rznvy nqqerff: WIQTWBBBJIAI@fcnzzbgry.pbz

    >
    > Sorry Jeff, I had no idea.
    >
    > I have posted many times to this list and nobody brought this up. Misc
    > suggests "everything" to me. Why isn't the name:
    >
    > comp.mail.pegasus.no.windows
    >
    > if it is what you say?


    You'd have to ask the people who put the newsgroup charters together.
    You are free to try to have comp.mail.pegasus.no.windows created.

    --
    Best Regards, Jeff G.
    My email address in the following is ROT13 encoded to reduce spam:
    Guvf vf gur rznvy nqqerff: WIQTWBBBJIAI@fcnzzbgry.pbz


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    More....

    I managed to set up a pop3 rule, in the pop3 editor, to dnload emails
    from names on the distribution list.

    I guess that leaves the rest on the mail server. For now I can use
    Mailwasher to delete the crap but I am looking for a rule that will delete
    the rest. There is no very obvious rule for that. There is one: Edit a
    Standard Header Rule and I could set it to Delete and not mark any boxes.
    Would the first rule be applied and then the other mails deleted with this
    one?

    RIA

    MR/RF


    "Madra Rua" <madra@rua.net> wrote in message
    news:t1Aid.17956$KJ6.3686@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > Thanks Jeff and Anthony for the suggestions.
    >
    > I already have the distribution list. Is it automatically put into the

    White
    > list?
    >
    > So I need to make a SS pop3 rule text file with something like:
    >
    > 1 If ListScan "@WHITELIST.PML" Download ""
    > 2 What rule to delete the remaining emails?
    > 3 Always Exit ""
    >
    > TIA
    >
    > RF
    >
    > "Jeff Rife" <wevsr@nabs.net> wrote in message
    > news:MPG.1bf455b7c93959f29898d4@news.nabs.net...
    > > Anthony J. Albert (ajalbert@excite.com) wrote in

    > comp.mail.pegasus-mail.misc:
    > > > While there isn't specifically a "White List" option

    > >
    > > Actually, there is, it's just not named "White List".
    > >
    > > Put the "good" addresses into an PM distribution list, then use the

    "List
    > > Scan" rule, so you have something like this:
    > >
    > > If ListScan "@WHITE.PML" Exit
    > >
    > > --
    > > Jeff Rife |
    > > SPAM bait: |

    > http://www.nabs.net/Cartoons/OverThe...orRealLife.gif
    > > AskDOJ@usdoj.gov |
    > > spam@ftc.gov |

    >
    >




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    In article <lpAid.116393$Ot3.32295@twister.nyc.rr.com>, WIQTWBBBJIAI%
    fcnzzbgry%pbz%PRECEDING%ROT13%ENCODED%TO%DESPAM%US@example.com says...

    > > Sorry Jeff, I had no idea.
    > >
    > > I have posted many times to this list and nobody brought this up. Misc
    > > suggests "everything" to me. Why isn't the name:
    > >
    > > comp.mail.pegasus.no.windows
    > >
    > > if it is what you say?

    >
    > You'd have to ask the people who put the newsgroup charters together.
    > You are free to try to have comp.mail.pegasus.no.windows created.
    >
    >


    Jeff - you're a pathetic pedantic wanker! There is no law against
    asking questions in this group at all. There just happens to be another
    group which is a subset of this one, referring to windows versions.
    That's all.. It ain't the end of the world or civilization as we know
    it... Many questions are asked in here about Mercury - but that's
    not in the group name either. It's "miscellaneous" - and that's what it
    means.

    Get a life!

    --

    NightStalker

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    More............
    Peg version 4.2c.

    The distribution list I made was in the format:

    "Jon Dough" <jdoe@dough.com>
    <:HarryDough@nodough.com>
    etc

    and it was named LIST4789.PML. This was edited with the Pop3 editor
    to download mail from members of the list. The rule type was List scan, the
    Trigger condition was @LIST4789.PML and the Action was download. Then I
    closed
    and re-opened Peg to, hopefully, initialize the filter.

    Then I looked at the mail on the mail server with Mailwasher and saw one
    email
    from a list member and 10 that were not. ALL mails were downloaded by Peg.
    Now what?

    A few days ago I used that BCC faciliity again. I remembered that a button
    had to be checked to hide the BCC names (How wierd to have to do this!). I
    checked that button and then closed and re-opened Peg. I sent the email with
    about 20 BCCs. One recipient used his reply button and, guess what, there
    was the complete list of the BCCs!!! BUG, BUG, BUG!!!

    Help appreciated. I'm getting close to using Earthlink's spam blocker.

    Thanks

    MR

    "Madra Rua" <madra@rua.net> wrote in message
    news:v6Bid.18224$KJ6.9006@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > More....
    >
    > I managed to set up a pop3 rule, in the pop3 editor, to dnload emails
    > from names on the distribution list.
    >
    > I guess that leaves the rest on the mail server. For now I can use
    > Mailwasher to delete the crap but I am looking for a rule that will delete
    > the rest. There is no very obvious rule for that. There is one: Edit a
    > Standard Header Rule and I could set it to Delete and not mark any boxes.
    > Would the first rule be applied and then the other mails deleted with this
    > one?
    >
    > RIA
    >
    > MR/RF
    >
    >
    > "Madra Rua" <madra@rua.net> wrote in message
    > news:t1Aid.17956$KJ6.3686@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
    > > Thanks Jeff and Anthony for the suggestions.
    > >
    > > I already have the distribution list. Is it automatically put into the

    > White
    > > list?
    > >
    > > So I need to make a SS pop3 rule text file with something like:
    > >
    > > 1 If ListScan "@WHITELIST.PML" Download ""
    > > 2 What rule to delete the remaining emails?
    > > 3 Always Exit ""
    > >
    > > TIA
    > >
    > > RF
    > >
    > > "Jeff Rife" <wevsr@nabs.net> wrote in message
    > > news:MPG.1bf455b7c93959f29898d4@news.nabs.net...
    > > > Anthony J. Albert (ajalbert@excite.com) wrote in

    > > comp.mail.pegasus-mail.misc:
    > > > > While there isn't specifically a "White List" option
    > > >
    > > > Actually, there is, it's just not named "White List".
    > > >
    > > > Put the "good" addresses into an PM distribution list, then use the

    > "List
    > > > Scan" rule, so you have something like this:
    > > >
    > > > If ListScan "@WHITE.PML" Exit
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > > Jeff Rife |
    > > > SPAM bait: |

    > > http://www.nabs.net/Cartoons/OverThe...orRealLife.gif
    > > > AskDOJ@usdoj.gov |
    > > > spam@ftc.gov |

    > >
    > >

    >
    >




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