minicpan, CPAN/CPANPLUS and autobundles on linux - Perl

On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:10:10 -0800, Joseph Brenner
<doom@kzsu.stanford.edu> wrote:

>I'm getting my laptop (AMD64 based) set-up with the latest
>version of Kubuntu (7.10 Gutsy Gibbon), and I'm trying to do
>something that doesn't seem to me like it should be terribly
>complicated, but I'm running into some funny problem I'm not
>seeing:

Since it didn't receive any answers, I replicated your question with
proper attributions at

http://perlmonks.org/?node_id=652558


Michele
--
{$_=pack'B8'x25,unpack'A8'x32,$a^=sub{pop^pop}->(map substr
(($a||=join'',map--$|x$_,(unpack'w',unpack'u','G^<R<Y]*YB='
..'KYU;*EVH[.FHF2W+#"\Z*5TI/ER<Z`S(G.DZZ9OX0Z')=~/./g)x2,$_,
256),7,249);s/[^\w,]/ /g;$ \=/^J/?$/:"\r";print,redo}#JAPH,

In article <871wai9azh.fsf@kzsu.stanford.edu>, Joseph Brenner
<doom@kzsu.stanford.edu> wrote:


> I keep having funny problems with the CPAN shell trying to
> install the wrong version from the minicpan mirror, I gather
> because it's using an stale meta data from the ~/.cpan location
> rather than getting it from the mirror location.

Check your config to see if you've asked CPAN.pm to cache metadata,
and that you have the right list of URLs in the right order to check.

You probably want to see my talk about MyCPAN:

Perlcast audio:
http://perlcast.com/2007/09/29/making-my-own-cpan/

Slides:
http://www252.pair.com/comdog/Talks/...LApm200709.pdf

Article:
See issue 4.0 of The Perl Review: http://www.theperlreview.com

In article <6uidk3db21l9q3ogd7a0s2so1p4dhegfod@4ax.com>, Michele Dondi
<bik.mido@tiscalinet.it> wrote:


> Since it didn't receive any answers, I replicated your question with
> proper attributions at

Well, I took a break for an American holiday so I didn't have a chance
to answer this one until today.

Haven't we gone through this before? I certainly think reposting
content without permission, even with attribution, is wrong. Several
other people have told you the same thing.

On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:04:38 -0600, brian d foy
<brian.d.foy@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Since it didn't receive any answers, I replicated your question with
>> proper attributions at
>
>Well, I took a break for an American holiday so I didn't have a chance
>to answer this one until today.
>
>Haven't we gone through this before? I certainly think reposting
>content without permission, even with attribution, is wrong. Several
>other people have told you the same thing.

Yes, we've gone through this before. None of the argumentations did
convince me. Do I risk a report to the abuse, a lawyer's notification
or anything of comparable severity? If so, then I'll stop forever
because there's not point in undergoing a loss for the desire to help
an individual, and the community. Sadly, this seems to be much a
clpmisc thing, because no one complained in PM when I did so before
and no one has complained today: nay, the node seems to have been
relatively well received -judging from its XP- and it's Friday
Afternoon... Of course you're also a member there and you can bash me
there too. OTOH Mirco Wahab, for one, *thanked* me for bringing a
problem from PM to clpmisc and is now an active poster in both places.

As far as reposting content without permission is concerned, let's be
serious: it happens all the time on the web and beyond. Just a quick
example:

http://www.osdir.com/ml/linux.distri.../msg00005.html

It's a copy of a message posted to a mailing list, of course, and I'm
the author. There even isn't a *clear* reference to me. I didn't know
that the mailing list was being replicated at that site: I just asked
Google.


Michele
--
{$_=pack'B8'x25,unpack'A8'x32,$a^=sub{pop^pop}->(map substr
(($a||=join'',map--$|x$_,(unpack'w',unpack'u','G^<R<Y]*YB='
..'KYU;*EVH[.FHF2W+#"\Z*5TI/ER<Z`S(G.DZZ9OX0Z')=~/./g)x2,$_,
256),7,249);s/[^\w,]/ /g;$ \=/^J/?$/:"\r";print,redo}#JAPH,

Michele Dondi <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it> writes:

> brian d foy <brian.d.foy@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Since it didn't receive any answers, I replicated your question with
>>> proper attributions at
>>
>>Well, I took a break for an American holiday so I didn't have a chance
>>to answer this one until today.
>>
>>Haven't we gone through this before? I certainly think reposting
>>content without permission, even with attribution, is wrong. Several
>>other people have told you the same thing.
>
> Yes, we've gone through this before. None of the argumentations did
> convince me.

Well, I'm not *greatly* annoyed that you did this, but it's
enitrely possible someone else might've been. It occured to me
that I could post the question to perlmonks, but I thought about
it and decided I would try here first. Why did you take it upon
yourself to do something with my material that I chose not to do?

> the node seems to have been relatively well received -judging
> from its XP-

Right. So you're a karma whore?

Forgive me, but I think my problem was relatively obscure, and I
can't see why you would be so fascinated by it that you couldn't
let it rest.

On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 16:30:49 -0800, Joseph Brenner
<doom@kzsu.stanford.edu> wrote:

>> the node seems to have been relatively well received -judging
>> from its XP-
>
>Right. So you're a karma whore?

No, an XP whore. Karma is on use.perl.org!

BTW: in this case XP showed up for what it really should be worth for
- the value of a node.

>Forgive me, but I think my problem was relatively obscure, and I
>can't see why you would be so fascinated by it that you couldn't
>let it rest.

It's been one of the most interesting questions I read in clpmisc in
months, period. (And incidentally a friend of mine, in real life heh,
asked me something along those lines some time before that.) I'm
fairly sick of "how do I get the sixth fielf" kinda questions...


Michele
--
{$_=pack'B8'x25,unpack'A8'x32,$a^=sub{pop^pop}->(map substr
(($a||=join'',map--$|x$_,(unpack'w',unpack'u','G^<R<Y]*YB='
..'KYU;*EVH[.FHF2W+#"\Z*5TI/ER<Z`S(G.DZZ9OX0Z')=~/./g)x2,$_,
256),7,249);s/[^\w,]/ /g;$ \=/^J/?$/:"\r";print,redo}#JAPH,

Michele Dondi <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it> writes:
> Joseph Brenner <doom@kzsu.stanford.edu> wrote:

>>> the node seems to have been relatively well received -judging
>>> from its XP-

>>Right. So you're a karma whore?
>
> No, an XP whore. Karma is on use.perl.org!
>
> BTW: in this case XP showed up for what it really should be worth for
> - the value of a node.

>>Forgive me, but I think my problem was relatively obscure, and I
>>can't see why you would be so fascinated by it that you couldn't
>>let it rest.
>
> It's been one of the most interesting questions I read in clpmisc in
> months, period. (And incidentally a friend of mine, in real life heh,
> asked me something along those lines some time before that.) I'm
> fairly sick of "how do I get the sixth fielf" kinda questions...

Fair enough, but you see questions like this make you seem a lot
like someone who just doesn't Get It:

"Do I risk a report to the abuse, a lawyer's notification or
anything of comparable severity? If so, then I'll stop forever
because there's not point in undergoing a loss for the desire
to help an individual, and the community. "

What you risk is people thinking you're a jerk who doesn't care
about the standards of the community you claim you're trying to
help. The worst case is some people stop talking to you, and
roll their eyes whenever your name comes up.