Gmail IMAP - How to send mails to [Gmail]/Trash

Hi all,

I'm a new at this console email thing. Set up Gmail IMAP on alpine
v1.0, it's working great, 'cept for a few annoyances.

I can't seem to delete my emails permenantly. They're sent to [Gmail]/
All Mail. I tried searching through the archives, but can't find
anything related. Can alpine send the 'deleted' emails to [Gmail]/
Trash when it expunges them?

best,
edge

Nancy's Guide is as usual rather excellent. Gmail's system is a bit strange
- "d" deletes from current view but leaves the message in All Mail. To
delete, save the file to the Trash folder

http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#gmailIMAP

N.

"donnylucky@gmail.com" <donnylucky@gmail.com> wrote in news:9229b155-ddd7-
4ef1-bd9c-92b94f3c4400@r37g2000prm.googlegroups.com:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm a new at this console email thing. Set up Gmail IMAP on alpine
> v1.0, it's working great, 'cept for a few annoyances.
>
> I can't seem to delete my emails permenantly. They're sent to [Gmail]/
> All Mail. I tried searching through the archives, but can't find
> anything related. Can alpine send the 'deleted' emails to [Gmail]/
> Trash when it expunges them?
>
> best,
> edge
>

On Jul 3, 9:03*am, "donnylu...@gmail.com" <donnylu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm a new at this console email thing. *Set upGmailIMAP onalpine
> v1.0, it's working great, 'cept for a few annoyances.
>
> I can't seem to delete my emails permenantly. They're sent to [Gmail]/
> All Mail. I tried searching through the archives, but can't find
> anything related. Canalpinesend the 'deleted' emails to [Gmail]/Trashwhenit expunges them?
>
> best,
> edge

On Jul 3, 9:03 am, "donnylu...@gmail.com" <donnylu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm a new at this console email thing. Set up Gmail IMAP on alpine
> v1.0, it's working great, 'cept for a few annoyances.
>
> I can't seem to delete my emails permenantly. They're sent to [Gmail]/
> All Mail. I tried searching through the archives, but can't find
> anything related. Can alpine send the 'deleted' emails to [Gmail]/
> Trash when it expunges them?
>
> best,
> edge

I have got the same annoyance. I don't understand why Gmail wants to
be so special about managing the messages from an application via
IMAP. Also when you delete a message in INBOX, it gets immediately
expunged when you refresh that INBOX (same things happens with webmail
though), which I find annoying too.

The problem is that when you delete a message in your INBOX from
alpine (or another mail app I guess), that message formally disappears
from your INBOX, but it is not put In the [Google Mail]/Bin folder and
it does not disappear from [Google Mail]/All Mail (unlike what happens
within webmail). Why???! Why did google choose to have these
nonstandard IMAP behaviours? (see <http://www.ii.com/internet/
messaging/pine/pc/#gmailIMAP>)

I tried to setup a filtering rule based on <http://groups.google.com/
group/comp.mail.pine/browse_thread/thread/
74a70d9289a68379/065f2de464e4829a?lnk=gst&q=Trash
+alpine#065f2de464e4829a> that would move any deleted message to the
[Google Mail]/Bin folder upon expungeing, but while this rule works
fine if the deleted message is in an INBOX from another email account
(not a gmail one), it fails with alpine when the message is deleted in
the gmail INBOX!!?

I was also thinking that a (poor) workaround would be to change your
INBOX path to the [Google Mail]/All Mail path, so that deleted
messages there are really deleted, but messages in that folder deleted
from alpine are not considered so for google and you cannot expunge
them (although the 'deleted' flag appears in alpine, nothing changes
on webmail).

Anybody has an idea? These annoyances just prevent me from using
google mail (I like alpine more than google...)
armando

On Jul 22, 12:21*pm, pascal.buen...@gmail.com wrote:

> Anybody has an idea? These annoyances just prevent me from using
> google mail (I like alpine more than google...)
> armando

The real idea would be to have alpine let us configure a 'move to
trash' option instead of straight delete. Then when you 'deleted' a
mail, it would get moved to a specified mailbox (trash) instead of the
goofy gmail behavior. As it is, if I want to delete messages, I have
to type 's [ tab T tab'.