getting only new mail or marking all messages as read : Pine

So I'm using gmail with alipine. I've got it set up correctly however
when I log in in downloads all my messages from my gmail account and
marks them as new messages. Is there a way I can only download new
messages from gmail or if not a way I can mark all messages in my
inbox as read.. or do both?

Sincerely,
Chris Dancy

On Tue, 4 Nov 2008, christoforever@gmail.com wrote:

> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:12:53 -0800 (PST)
> From: "christoforever@gmail.com" <christoforever@gmail.com>
> Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine
> Subject: getting only new mail or marking all messages as read
>
> So I'm using gmail with alipine. I've got it set up correctly however
> when I log in in downloads all my messages from my gmail account and
> marks them as new messages. Is there a way I can only download new
> messages from gmail or if not a way I can mark all messages in my
> inbox as read.. or do both?
You are using IMAP connection to gmail, right ? or POP3 ?
I dont have any such problem, and I use IMAP from apline.
But if you want to mark all messages as read, all you need is to select
all messages and Apply Flag and unmark New.

HTH,
Supreet.

>
> Sincerely,
> Chris Dancy
>

Supreet Joshi <supreet@invalid.invalid> writes:


>On Tue, 4 Nov 2008, christoforever@gmail.com wrote:

>> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:12:53 -0800 (PST)
>> From: "christoforever@gmail.com" <christoforever@gmail.com>
>> Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine
>> Subject: getting only new mail or marking all messages as read
>>
>> So I'm using gmail with alipine. I've got it set up correctly however
>> when I log in in downloads all my messages from my gmail account and
>> marks them as new messages. Is there a way I can only download new
>> messages from gmail or if not a way I can mark all messages in my
>> inbox as read.. or do both?
>You are using IMAP connection to gmail, right ? or POP3 ?
>I dont have any such problem, and I use IMAP from apline.
>But if you want to mark all messages as read, all you need is to select
>all messages and Apply Flag and unmark New.

I think what he is doing is not eliminating the messages from his gmail
account and the retrieved messages there are not being marked as read. thus
each time he downloads the same bunch of messages and each time erases them
from his inbox. This is a problem with gmail and POP/IMAP not with alpine.



>HTH,
>Supreet.

>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Chris Dancy
>>

On Nov 5, 6:57 pm, Unruh <unruh-s...@physics.ubc.ca> wrote:
> Supreet Joshi <supr...@invalid.invalid> writes:
> >On Tue, 4 Nov 2008, christofore...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:12:53 -0800 (PST)
> >> From: "christofore...@gmail.com" <christofore...@gmail.com>
> >> Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine
> >> Subject: getting only new mail or marking all messages as read
>
> >> So I'm using gmail with alipine. I've got it set up correctly however
> >> when I log in in downloads all my messages from my gmail account and
> >> marks them as new messages. Is there a way I can only download new
> >> messages from gmail or if not a way I can mark all messages in my
> >> inbox as read.. or do both?
> >You are using IMAP connection to gmail, right ? or POP3 ?
> >I dont have any such problem, and I use IMAP from apline.
> >But if you want to mark all messages as read, all you need is to select
> >all messages and Apply Flag and unmark New.
>
> I think what he is doing is not eliminating the messages from his gmail
> account and the retrieved messages there are not being marked as read. thus
> each time he downloads the same bunch of messages and each time erases them
> from his inbox. This is  a problem with gmail and POP/IMAP not with alpine.
>
> >HTH,
> >Supreet.
>
> >> Sincerely,
> >> Chris Dancy

Yes... Is there a way that when alpine downloads the new messages, it
will mark the messages in email as read as well. Not leave them as
unread.

On Nov 6, 10:58 am, "christofore...@gmail.com"
<christofore...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 5, 6:57 pm, Unruh <unruh-s...@physics.ubc.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Supreet Joshi <supr...@invalid.invalid> writes:
> > >On Tue, 4 Nov 2008, christofore...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:12:53 -0800 (PST)
> > >> From: "christofore...@gmail.com" <christofore...@gmail.com>
> > >> Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine
> > >> Subject: getting only new mail or marking all messages as read
>
> > >> So I'm using gmail with alipine. I've got it set up correctly however
> > >> when I log in in downloads all my messages from my gmail account and
> > >> marks them as new messages. Is there a way I can only download new
> > >> messages from gmail or if not a way I can mark all messages in my
> > >> inbox as read.. or do both?
> > >You are using IMAP connection to gmail, right ? or POP3 ?
> > >I dont have any such problem, and I use IMAP from apline.
> > >But if you want to mark all messages as read, all you need is to select
> > >all messages and Apply Flag and unmark New.
>
> > I think what he is doing is not eliminating the messages from his gmail
> > account and the retrieved messages there are not being marked as read. thus
> > each time he downloads the same bunch of messages and each time erases them
> > from his inbox. This is  a problem with gmail and POP/IMAP not with alpine.
>
> > >HTH,
> > >Supreet.
>
> > >> Sincerely,
> > >> Chris Dancy
>
> Yes... Is there a way that when alpine downloads the new messages, it
> will mark the messages in email as read as well. Not leave them as
> unread.

I am using pop3 if that matters.

I think you should use IMAP with gmail.
POP works by connecting once to the mail server and downloading all your
mail, all of which are marked unread, and then dsiconnects from teh
server. Each time you connect using POP, this process happens. You are not
actually accessing your gmail inbox, but just a copy of it.
IMAP is more interactive. It maintains a live client-server connection and
you actually operate on your gmail inbox. If you have a very slow internet
connection this could be a problem, as you can get those " Break
Connection to server ?" messages.
I think IMAP can do pretty much everything POP can do, including bulk
message download. It can handle MIME type messages (though I am not sure
how POP does).
As for configuration, you will get plenty of help online on U-Wash's Pine
page.

HTH,
Supreet.


On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, christoforever@gmail.com wrote:

>>>>> So I'm using gmail with alipine. I've got it set up correctly however
>>>>> when I log in in downloads all my messages from my gmail account and
>>>>> marks them as new messages. Is there a way I can only download new
>>>>> messages from gmail or if not a way I can mark all messages in my
>>>>> inbox as read.. or do both?
>>>> You are using IMAP connection to gmail, right ? or POP3 ?
>>>> I dont have any such problem, and I use IMAP from apline.
>>>> But if you want to mark all messages as read, all you need is to select
>>>> all messages and Apply Flag and unmark New.
>>
>>> I think what he is doing is not eliminating the messages from his gmail
>>> account and the retrieved messages there are not being marked as read. thus
>>> each time he downloads the same bunch of messages and each time erases them
>>> from his inbox. This is  a problem with gmail and POP/IMAP not with alpine.
>>
>>>> HTH,
>>>> Supreet.
>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> Chris Dancy
>>
>> Yes... Is there a way that when alpine downloads the new messages, it
>> will mark the messages in email as read as well. Not leave them as
>> unread.
>
> I am using pop3 if that matters.
>

On Nov 7, 3:40 am, Supreet Joshi <supr...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> I think you should use IMAP with gmail.
> POP works by connecting once to the mail server and downloading all your
> mail, all of which are marked unread, and then dsiconnects from teh
> server. Each time you connect using POP, this process happens. You are not
> actually accessing your gmail inbox, but just a copy of it.
> IMAP is more interactive. It maintains a live client-server connection and
> you actually operate on your gmail inbox. If you have a very slow internet
> connection this could be a problem, as you can get those " Break
> Connection to server ?" messages.
> I think IMAP can do pretty much everything POP can do, including bulk
> message download. It can handle MIME type messages (though I am not sure
> how POP does).
> As for configuration, you will get plenty of help online on U-Wash's Pine
> page.
>
> HTH,
> Supreet.
>
> On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, christofore...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>> So I'm using gmail with alipine. I've got it set up correctly however
> >>>>> when I log in in downloads all my messages from my gmail account and
> >>>>> marks them as new messages. Is there a way I can only download new
> >>>>> messages from gmail or if not a way I can mark all messages in my
> >>>>> inbox as read.. or do both?
> >>>> You are using IMAP connection to gmail, right ? or POP3 ?
> >>>> I dont have any such problem, and I use IMAP from apline.
> >>>> But if you want to mark all messages as read, all you need is to select
> >>>> all messages and Apply Flag and unmark New.
>
> >>> I think what he is doing is not eliminating the messages from his gmail
> >>> account and the retrieved messages there are not being marked as read.. thus
> >>> each time he downloads the same bunch of messages and each time erases them
> >>> from his inbox. This is  a problem with gmail and POP/IMAP not withalpine.
>
> >>>> HTH,
> >>>> Supreet.
>
> >>>>> Sincerely,
> >>>>> Chris Dancy
>
> >> Yes... Is there a way that when alpine downloads the new messages, it
> >> will mark the messages in email as read as well. Not leave them as
> >> unread.
>
> > I am using pop3 if that matters.

I have switched over to imap and in my experience thus far it is a
better choice. I no longer have to worry about downloading them all
every time. Also it checks it off in my gmail inbox as having been
read, so thats a bonus. Anyway Thanks for the help, for all those that
gave their input.

Sincerely,
Chris Dancy