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    Where might I find a reasonably updated PL/1 compiler that runs on
    win32?
    I understand there is renewed interest in PL/1 as of late...
    I have taught myself Fortran over the last 4 months and feel that
    Fortran is really a terrific and powerful language not given enough
    credit for its abilities.

    I am also interested in the PL/1 Language Reference in PDF or other
    off-line format.

    Thanks!

    RadSurfer .at. yahoo.com

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    RadSurfer wrote:
    > Where might I find a reasonably updated PL/1 compiler that runs on
    > win32?
    > I understand there is renewed interest in PL/1 as of late...
    > I have taught myself Fortran over the last 4 months and feel that
    > Fortran is really a terrific and powerful language not given enough
    > credit for its abilities.
    >
    > I am also interested in the PL/1 Language Reference in PDF or other
    > off-line format.


    Take a look at:
    http://home.nycap.rr.com/pflass/plilib.htm

    >
    > Thanks!
    >
    > RadSurfer .at. yahoo.com



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    "Peter Flass" <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:475097ba$0$5006$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
    > RadSurfer wrote:
    >> Where might I find a reasonably updated PL/1 compiler that runs on
    >> win32?
    >> I understand there is renewed interest in PL/1 as of late...
    >> I have taught myself Fortran over the last 4 months and feel that
    >> Fortran is really a terrific and powerful language not given enough
    >> credit for its abilities.
    >>
    >> I am also interested in the PL/1 Language Reference in PDF or other
    >> off-line format.

    >
    > Take a look at:
    > http://home.nycap.rr.com/pflass/plilib.htm
    >


    As usual PLI'ers will duck the issue.
    There is just 1 Windows updated compiler available, its from IBM and
    IBM wants something over $4000 for it (but no-one will post exactly how
    much).
    So the answer to your question, "where might I find a reasonably updated
    PL/I compiler that
    runs on win32?" is: THERE ISNT ONE!

    There is NO "renewed interest in PL/I as of late", on the contrary its about
    as DEAD as a language can get
    and is just waiting the retirement and/or demise of its few stranded users
    that are forced to support it on some
    obsolete mainframes.

    OTOH, IBM is actively supporting Fortran with their latest super-computers.



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    "David Frank" <dave_frank@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:13l29t0lo40dr78@corp.supernews.com...
    >
    > "Peter Flass" <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:475097ba$0$5006$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
    > > RadSurfer wrote:
    > >> Where might I find a reasonably updated PL/1 compiler that runs on
    > >> win32?
    > >> I understand there is renewed interest in PL/1 as of late...
    > >> I have taught myself Fortran over the last 4 months and feel that
    > >> Fortran is really a terrific and powerful language not given enough
    > >> credit for its abilities.
    > >>
    > >> I am also interested in the PL/1 Language Reference in PDF or other
    > >> off-line format.

    > >
    > > Take a look at:
    > > http://home.nycap.rr.com/pflass/plilib.htm

    >
    > As usual PLI'ers will duck the issue.
    > There is just 1 Windows updated compiler available, its from IBM


    Check out:

    Windows: Download PLIWINTB.ZIP
    ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/pli/demos/





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    "David Frank" <dave_frank@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:13l29t0lo40dr78@corp.supernews.com...
    >
    > "Peter Flass" <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:475097ba$0$5006$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
    > > RadSurfer wrote:
    > >> Where might I find a reasonably updated PL/1 compiler that runs on
    > >> win32?
    > >> I understand there is renewed interest in PL/1 as of late...
    > >> I have taught myself Fortran over the last 4 months and feel that
    > >> Fortran is really a terrific and powerful language not given enough
    > >> credit for its abilities.
    > >>
    > >> I am also interested in the PL/1 Language Reference in PDF or other
    > >> off-line format.

    > >
    > > Take a look at:
    > > http://home.nycap.rr.com/pflass/plilib.htm

    >
    > As usual PLI'ers will duck the issue.
    > There is just 1 Windows updated compiler available, its from IBM and
    > IBM wants something over $4000 for it (but no-one will post exactly how
    > much).
    > So the answer to your question, "where might I find a reasonably updated
    > PL/I compiler that
    > runs on win32?" is: THERE ISNT ONE!


    As we have told you before, IBM have had PL/I for Win 32 for a decade or more.
    So have Liant.

    > There is NO "renewed interest in PL/I as of late",


    As for interest, there are TWO projects underway
    to write PL/I compilers.

    > on the contrary its about
    > as DEAD as a language can get


    PL/I has better features than Fortran.
    And these have been in the language
    since 1966. Fortran still has not got
    important features, and doesn't look like
    getting them any time soon.
    Until it does, it looks like PL/I will continue
    to be king.

    > and is just waiting the retirement and/or demise of its few stranded users
    > that are forced to support it on some
    > obsolete mainframes.


    PL/I is used on the PC as well as mainframes.
    BTW, mainframes are not "obsolete" as you say,
    but are in current production.

    > OTOH, IBM is actively supporting Fortran


    And PL/I on both windows and z/OS.




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    robin wrote:
    > "David Frank" <dave_frank@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:13l29t0lo40dr78@corp.supernews.com...
    >
    >>"Peter Flass" <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
    >>news:475097ba$0$5006$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
    >>
    >>>RadSurfer wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>Where might I find a reasonably updated PL/1 compiler that runs on
    >>>>win32?
    >>>>I understand there is renewed interest in PL/1 as of late...
    >>>>I have taught myself Fortran over the last 4 months and feel that
    >>>>Fortran is really a terrific and powerful language not given enough
    >>>>credit for its abilities.
    >>>>
    >>>>I am also interested in the PL/1 Language Reference in PDF or other
    >>>>off-line format.
    >>>
    >>>Take a look at:
    >>> http://home.nycap.rr.com/pflass/plilib.htm

    >>
    >>As usual PLI'ers will duck the issue.
    >>There is just 1 Windows updated compiler available, its from IBM


    DF - I thought I had you killfiled, douchebag.

    I was replying to his request for documentation.

    >
    >
    > Check out:
    >
    > Windows: Download PLIWINTB.ZIP
    > ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/pli/demos/
    >
    >
    >
    >



  7. Default Re: PL/1 for Win32

    On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 23:21:31 GMT, "robin" <robin_v@bigpond.com> wrote:


    >> OTOH, IBM is actively supporting Fortran

    >
    >And PL/I on both windows and z/OS.


    Yeah, but to go back to the point of an earlier post: Can anyone
    _buy_ this PL/1 compiler from IBM for _Windows_, that is, at a
    "Window-ish" price? Say $100-$200, including a year or more of
    maintenance and updates?

    I daresay that if the answer to this question is NO, then for all
    practical purposes, there is no PL/1 for Windows from IBM.

    -AH

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    On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 00:56:21 -0800, Andrew Hamilton
    <Ahamilton90900@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >Yeah, but to go back to the point of an earlier post: Can anyone
    >_buy_ this PL/1 compiler from IBM for _Windows_, that is, at a
    >"Window-ish" price? Say $100-$200, including a year or more of
    >maintenance and updates?
    >
    >I daresay that if the answer to this question is NO, then for all
    >practical purposes, there is no PL/1 for Windows from IBM.



    For $100 you won't even get the empty CD case.

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    "RadSurfer" <RadSurfer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:ae209a6a-ae74-4640-bcad-ba59f7509f28@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

    > I understand there is renewed interest in PL/1 as of late...


    You might be interested to look at

    http://www.users.bigpond.com/robin_v/numeric.htm



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    I see you've been busy.

    robin wrote:
    > "RadSurfer" <RadSurfer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:ae209a6a-ae74-4640-bcad-ba59f7509f28@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
    >
    >
    >>I understand there is renewed interest in PL/1 as of late...

    >
    >
    > You might be interested to look at
    >
    > http://www.users.bigpond.com/robin_v/numeric.htm
    >
    >



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