Re: Doubt about formula transcription

This is a discussion on Re: Doubt about formula transcription within the pl1 forums in Programming Languages category; "James Giles" <jamesgiles @ worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:RYOKj.156005$cQ1.70133 @ bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... "glen herrmannsfeldt" <gah @ ugcs.caltech.edu> wrote in message [elided] > OK. So your advice is that we *do* have to worry about > things that were resolved in the 1960's. Note that commutativity > and associativity have always been *mathematically* correct, > so Fortran compilers have always been allowed to use them > for optimization. And I know I saw people doing it in the late > 1960's. It's certainly documented before 1970 - the XPL compiler being one where those optimisations were carried out. The IBM FORTRAN H ...

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Old 06-28-2008, 12:01 AM
robin
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"James Giles" <jamesgiles@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:RYOKj.156005$cQ1.70133@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

"glen herrmannsfeldt" <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> wrote in message
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> OK. So your advice is that we *do* have to worry about
> things that were resolved in the 1960's. Note that commutativity
> and associativity have always been *mathematically* correct,
> so Fortran compilers have always been allowed to use them
> for optimization. And I know I saw people doing it in the late
> 1960's.


It's certainly documented before 1970 - the XPL compiler
being one where those optimisations were carried out.

The IBM FORTRAN H compiler for the System 360
(1966) was noted for the high degree of optimisation,
though whether it commuted operands I don't know,
but I would be surprised if it didn't.

Another of the period, the IBM PL/I Optimising
compiler (c. 1969), produced good code, but
(as in the case of the H compiler), I can't say whether
those specific optimisations were carried out.
Likewise, I would be surprised if it didn't.

IBM's PL/I-F compiler (1966) also did limited optimisations.


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Old 06-28-2008, 04:04 AM
glen herrmannsfeldt
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robin wrote:

> "James Giles" <jamesgiles@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:RYOKj.156005$cQ1.70133@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...


> "glen herrmannsfeldt" <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> wrote in message
> [elided]


If you are going to snip all that I wrote, you might as
well snip me out, too.

-- glen

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Old 06-30-2008, 02:31 AM
Tim C.
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On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 00:04:40 -0800, glen herrmannsfeldt wrote:

> robin wrote:
>
>> "James Giles" <jamesgiles@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>> news:RYOKj.156005$cQ1.70133@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

>
>> "glen herrmannsfeldt" <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> wrote in message
>> [elided]

>
> If you are going to snip all that I wrote, you might as
> well snip me out, too.
>
> -- glen


Who said that?
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