'REPL' style IDE - Python

On Aug 20, 12:50 pm, beginner <zyzhu2...> wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I am using the Wing IDE. It works great when developing applications,
> but the workflow is like Visual Studio -- after you execute it or
> debug it, the python script ends.
>
> What I want is an interactive interpreting environment. I want the IDE
> to execute a boot script to initialize my environment and create some
> basic data objects. And then I want to be able to type in command on
> the command line using these objects. The IDLE that comes with Python
> does this, but compared with Wing, it does not have a lot of the
> convenient features.
>
> I am wondering if there is anything more powerful than IDLE that can
> do this.
>
> Thanks,
> Geoffrey

If Wing could load my init script into a python session ONCE and then
run my code in another files MANY times, with or without the debugger,
without starting a new python session, that would be great.

python-mode in Emacs.

On 8/20/07, beginner <zyzhu2000> wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I am using the Wing IDE. It works great when developing applications,
> but the workflow is like Visual Studio -- after you execute it or
> debug it, the python script ends.
>
> What I want is an interactive interpreting environment. I want the IDE
> to execute a boot script to initialize my environment and create some
> basic data objects. And then I want to be able to type in command on
> the command line using these objects. The IDLE that comes with Python
> does this, but compared with Wing, it does not have a lot of the
> convenient features.
>
> I am wondering if there is anything more powerful than IDLE that can
> do this.

I use Wing IDE.
Place something like this on the bottom of your module you are debuging.
Place a stop point on the line you want then start your debug! Hope that helps.

def test():
c=MyClass
c.do_foobar()

if __name__ == '__main__':
test()
--
Later, Joe

On 8/20/07, JoeSox <joesox> wrote:
> On 8/20/07, beginner <zyzhu2000> wrote:
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > I am using the Wing IDE. It works great when developing applications,
> > but the workflow is like Visual Studio -- after you execute it or
> > debug it, the python script ends.
> >
> > What I want is an interactive interpreting environment. I want the IDE
> > to execute a boot script to initialize my environment and create some
> > basic data objects. And then I want to be able to type in command on
> > the command line using these objects. The IDLE that comes with Python
> > does this, but compared with Wing, it does not have a lot of the
> > convenient features.
> >
> > I am wondering if there is anything more powerful than IDLE that can
> > do this.
>
> I use Wing IDE.
> Place something like this on the bottom of your module you are debuging.
> Place a stop point on the line you want then start your debug! Hope that helps.
>
> def test():
> c=MyClass
> c.do_foobar()
>
> if __name__ == '__main__':
> test()

Just seeing if you all were paying attention :P

s/b...
c=MyClass()

--
Later, Joe

On Aug 20, 2:51 pm, JoeSox <joe...> wrote:
> On 8/20/07, beginner <zyzhu2...> wrote:
>
> > Hi Everyone,
>
> > I am using the Wing IDE. It works great when developing applications,
> > but the workflow is like Visual Studio -- after you execute it or
> > debug it, the python script ends.
>
> > What I want is an interactive interpreting environment. I want the IDE
> > to execute a boot script to initialize my environment and create some
> > basic data objects. And then I want to be able to type in command on
> > the command line using these objects. The IDLE that comes with Python
> > does this, but compared with Wing, it does not have a lot of the
> > convenient features.
>
> > I am wondering if there is anything more powerful than IDLE that can
> > do this.
>
> I use Wing IDE.
> Place something like this on the bottom of your module you are debuging.
> Place a stop point on the line you want then start your debug! Hope that helps.
>
> def test():
> c=MyClass
> c.do_foobar()
>
> if __name__ == '__main__':
> test()
> --
> Later, Joe

Thanks for your help.

Yes, this is what I always do. However, I want more than debugging
interactively. I am trying to use the python interperter as a
programmable application. Once I run my boot script, the python
interpreter should have all the right objects and libraries, and the
end user (who obviously knows python) can simply type in a few
commands, calling my functions, to achieve his purposes
interactively.

What I am doing right now is almost exactly what you prescribed. I put
a 'pass' statement at the end of my boot script and set a breakpoint
on it, so that once the debugger stops on the breakpoint, the user can
start typing in commands in the Debug Probe window. But this is by no
means a nice set up.

Thanks,
Geoffrey

On Aug 20, 2:39 pm, Jeff <jeffo...> wrote:
> python-mode in Emacs.

Yeah, but I don't know anything about Emacs and as far as I know it is
pretty complicated.

How about embedding ipython in your script with:

from IPython.Shell import IPShellEmbed

ipshell = IPShellEmbed()

** your set up code **

ipshell() # this call anywhere in your program will start IPython

see: http://ipython.scipy.org/doc/manual/...html#sec:embed

Here are some ipython tips: http://ipython.scipy.org/doc/manual/node4.html

Another option is to set up Wing so that it attaches to a process that
is started externally (http://wingware.com/doc/debug/importing-the-
debugger)

So... in one window you can run your code that sets up everything and
then displays the ipython CLI - and in the other window you have
WingIDE where you can set your breakpoints and use the GUI.

Is this what you're looking for?

At 10:50 AM 8/20/2007, beginner wrote:
>Hi Everyone,
>
>I am using the Wing IDE. It works great when developing applications,
>but the workflow is like Visual Studio -- after you execute it or
>debug it, the python script ends.
>
>What I want is an interactive interpreting environment. I want the IDE
>to execute a boot script to initialize my environment and create some
>basic data objects. And then I want to be able to type in command on
>the command line using these objects. The IDLE that comes with Python
>does this, but compared with Wing, it does not have a lot of the
>convenient features.
>
>I am wondering if there is anything more powerful than IDLE that can
>do this.

Are you sure you can't do this with Wing? Have you asked support,
<support@wingware.com>?

Dick Moores



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