[ANN] Introducing Waves - Web App Framework

On Feb 6, 2008, at 9:20 AM, Dan Yoder wrote:

> comes prepackaged to support Sequel

The walk-through looked promising, although I haven't had a chance to
try it. Have you attempted Haml integration? Haml and Sass are such
incredible productivity enhancers (honest, without them I feel like I
have one hand tied behind my back). It would be great to know whether
they are easy, sorta-easy, or really hard to integrate.

--s

> The walk-through looked promising, although I haven't had a chance
> to try it. Have you attempted Haml integration? Haml and Sass are
> such incredible productivity enhancers (honest, without them I feel
> like I have one hand tied behind my back). It would be great to
> know whether they are easy, sorta-easy, or really hard to integrate.

really easy. the only reason i didn't go with haml out of the gate is
because markaby accomplishes a lot of the same things but is much
more flexible since it is actually ruby. of course, if you want
client-editable templates, than that becomes a drawback, one which i
plan to address using sandbox. that said, it really isn't difficult
to add haml support if it turns out to be a must-have. if you're
interested at giving it a shot yourself, take a look at the
Waves::Renderers stuff in the API docs.

dan

just out of curiosity, how do you test your framework?

On 6-Feb-08, at 3:46 PM, Dan Yoder wrote:

>> The walk-through looked promising, although I haven't had a chance
>> to try it. Have you attempted Haml integration? Haml and Sass are
>> such incredible productivity enhancers (honest, without them I feel
>> like I have one hand tied behind my back). It would be great to
>> know whether they are easy, sorta-easy, or really hard to integrate.
>
> really easy. the only reason i didn't go with haml out of the gate
> is because markaby accomplishes a lot of the same things but is much
> more flexible since it is actually ruby. of course, if you want
> client-editable templates, than that becomes a drawback, one which i
> plan to address using sandbox. that said, it really isn't difficult
> to add haml support if it turns out to be a must-have. if you're
> interested at giving it a shot yourself, take a look at the
> Waves::Renderers stuff in the API docs.
>
> dan
>
>

> just out of curiosity, how do you test your framework?

for functional testing, i have several apps running on it, and i test
those. i would like to formalize that into actual test apps as
contributors come on (knock on wood).

for performance testing, right now i am using ab, although
performance will become more of a focus in future releases.

btw, thin support is coming in the next release. i've already had a
couple of requests for it.

>
> On 6-Feb-08, at 3:46 PM, Dan Yoder wrote:
>
>>> The walk-through looked promising, although I haven't had a
>>> chance to try it. Have you attempted Haml integration? Haml and
>>> Sass are such incredible productivity enhancers (honest, without
>>> them I feel like I have one hand tied behind my back). It would
>>> be great to know whether they are easy, sorta-easy, or really
>>> hard to integrate.
>>
>> really easy. the only reason i didn't go with haml out of the gate
>> is because markaby accomplishes a lot of the same things but is
>> much more flexible since it is actually ruby. of course, if you
>> want client-editable templates, than that becomes a drawback, one
>> which i plan to address using sandbox. that said, it really isn't
>> difficult to add haml support if it turns out to be a must-have.
>> if you're interested at giving it a shot yourself, take a look at
>> the Waves::Renderers stuff in the API docs.
>>
>> dan
>>
>>
>
>

> Waves is designed to support multiple applications. Each application
> lives inside its own module, so they are completely separated. This
> makes it easy to reuse entire applications (although only one "master"
> application can provide the mappings and configuration).

Oh, this one is really interesting. I remember asking David H. back at 0.5
if Rails will ever support this and he said no. The app folder in Rails
should really be an apps folder with subfolders which in turn have
controllers, models, views, … So for my main use case (having many
customers running on one codebase, with each sharing 90 % of functionality
and having 10 % of customized functionality) Rails died back then. This is
the main reason I still develop my main app in PHP.

I will have to look at waves then as soon as I have the time

-sasa

On Feb 5, 2:33 am, Dan Yoder <d...@zeraweb.com> wrote:
> I am pleased to announce the first beta release of Waves, an open-
> source framework for building Ruby-based Web applications. Waves is
> feature-rich, compact, and extensible. Waves is thread-safe, hot-
> patchable, and supports easy clustering. Waves relies on best-of-
> breed Ruby libraries, including Rack, Mongrel, Sequel, Markaby, and
> Erubis, among others. And it uses just-in-time class and module
> creation to minimize the code you have to write.
>
> To learn more, please visit the Ruby Waves Web site, where you'll
> find a screencast, tutorial, reference docs, support forums, and more.
>
> http://rubywaves.com/

Hi,

The website is very distorted for me. The sidebar (I think it is a
sidebar) sits above the main text. And the menu bar is wacked=out too.
Thought you'd like to know. (I'm using firefox on linux).

T.

On Feb 7, 2008 11:06 AM, Trans <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:
> > http://rubywaves.com/
>
> Hi,
>
> The website is very distorted for me. The sidebar (I think it is a
> sidebar) sits above the main text. And the menu bar is wacked=out too.
> Thought you'd like to know. (I'm using firefox on linux).

Works perfectly for me (firefox 2.0.0.11 on linux)

m.

Are you using FF3? I've gotten a couple of reports on that ... not
sure what the problem is.
Dan

On Feb 7, 2008, at 3:06 AM, Trans wrote:

>
>
> On Feb 5, 2:33 am, Dan Yoder <d...@zeraweb.com> wrote:
>> I am pleased to announce the first beta release of Waves, an open-
>> source framework for building Ruby-based Web applications. Waves is
>> feature-rich, compact, and extensible. Waves is thread-safe, hot-
>> patchable, and supports easy clustering. Waves relies on best-of-
>> breed Ruby libraries, including Rack, Mongrel, Sequel, Markaby, and
>> Erubis, among others. And it uses just-in-time class and module
>> creation to minimize the code you have to write.
>>
>> To learn more, please visit the Ruby Waves Web site, where you'll
>> find a screencast, tutorial, reference docs, support forums, and
>> more.
>>
>> http://rubywaves.com/
>
> Hi,
>
> The website is very distorted for me. The sidebar (I think it is a
> sidebar) sits above the main text. And the menu bar is wacked=out too.
> Thought you'd like to know. (I'm using firefox on linux).
>
> T.
>

On Feb 7, 2008 6:49 PM, Dan Yoder <dan@zeraweb.com> wrote:
> Are you using FF3? I've gotten a couple of reports on that ... not
> sure what the problem is.

I see the same weird layout as Trans, I'm using FF 2.0.0.11 in Ubuntu.

Jesus.

can anyone who is having this problem see if it is fixed now? i =20
updated the theme, but i since i'm not seeing this problem, i am not =20
sure if i fixed it or not? thanks again to everyone who helped me =20
resolve this. -dan

On Feb 7, 2008, at 10:03 AM, Jes=FAs Gabriel y Gal=E1n wrote:

> On Feb 7, 2008 6:49 PM, Dan Yoder <dan@zeraweb.com> wrote:
>> Are you using FF3? I've gotten a couple of reports on that ... not
>> sure what the problem is.
>
> I see the same weird layout as Trans, I'm using FF 2.0.0.11 in Ubuntu.
>
> Jesus.
>