Delphi equivalent in Scheme ?

This is a discussion on Delphi equivalent in Scheme ? within the Scheme forums in Programming Languages category; Is there a Delphi equivalent in the C world or Scheme/LISP world ? Recently, Delphi is in resurgence. In Russia people are using like crazy. For example, Bolega has written a free image processing program scankromsator in delphi because its easy to write a gui. In arabia people are using it also. Also delphi, I heard delphi allows visual programming and delphi programs run on: linux win2k winxp vista I heard that its a lot easier than MFC, and C# and so on. The only think I worried is the PASCALISH syntax. Can any of you tell me if there ...

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Old 08-19-2008, 11:20 PM
gnuist006@gmail.com
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Default Delphi equivalent in Scheme ?

Is there a Delphi equivalent in the C world or Scheme/LISP world ?

Recently, Delphi is in resurgence. In Russia people are using like
crazy. For example, Bolega has written a free image processing
program
scankromsator in delphi because its easy to write a gui. In arabia
people are using it also.


Also delphi, I heard delphi allows visual programming and delphi
programs run on:


linux
win2k
winxp
vista


I heard that its a lot easier than MFC, and C# and so on.


The only think I worried is the PASCALISH syntax. Can any of you tell
me if there is an alternative in C world and the pros and cons
because
I am used to C syntax.

Also I write in LISP

Gnuist


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Old 08-20-2008, 01:52 AM
namekuseijin
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Default Re: Delphi equivalent in Scheme ?

What you're asking is for an fully featured IDE complete with Form
Designer with data-aware widgets, report generators, module browsers,
semantic auto-complete, refactoring tools, integrated debugger and one-
click compile-build-run cycle? Not really. Perhaps Franz Common Lisp
offering, but frankly, not even most popular java IDEs come as packed
full and with such ease of use as Delphi. The Form Designer alone
beats the socks out of the (little) competition.

In the C++/Java/C# world there are Eclipse, Netbeans and Visual Studio
to do a lot of automatic code generation for you. Lisp, Haskell and
OCaml people are all poetic craftsmen who don't really care for lowly
peasant tools helping them increase their productivity by limiting
their options and creative freedom.
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Old 08-20-2008, 06:30 AM
Kjetil S. Matheussen
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Default Re: Delphi equivalent in Scheme ?

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008, namekuseijin wrote:

> What you're asking is for an fully featured IDE complete with Form
> Designer with data-aware widgets, report generators, module browsers,
> semantic auto-complete, refactoring tools, integrated debugger and one-
> click compile-build-run cycle? Not really.


Actually, there is one. It's a commercial scheme-like language,
for windows only I think. But I can't remember it's name.

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Old 08-20-2008, 06:23 PM
Rob Kennedy
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Default Re: Delphi equivalent in Scheme ?

gnuist006@gmail.com wrote:
> Is there a Delphi equivalent in the C world or Scheme/LISP world ?


C++ Builder?

> Recently, Delphi is in resurgence. In Russia people are using like
> crazy. For example, Bolega has written a free image processing
> program
> scankromsator in delphi because its easy to write a gui. In arabia
> people are using it also.
>
>
> Also delphi, I heard delphi allows visual programming and delphi
> programs run on:
>
>
> linux
> win2k
> winxp
> vista


Delphi programs might run under Wine or Mono, but that is not the same
as saying they run on Linux. Delphi produces Windows programs exclusively.

> I heard that its a lot easier than MFC, and C# and so on.
>
>
> The only think I worried is the PASCALISH syntax.


What worries you about that? Maybe we can alleviate those worries, and
then you won't have to hunt for something else that has all the other
features you like in Delphi.

> Can any of you tell
> me if there is an alternative in C world and the pros and cons
> because I am used to C syntax.


Spell your braces as "begin" and "end," put your function and variable
types after the names, declare your variables before all the code in a
subroutine, and don't use the preprocessor, and you've nearly learned
the differences between C and Delphi syntax.

--
Rob
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Old 08-21-2008, 02:45 AM
gnuist006@gmail.com
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Default Re: Delphi equivalent in Scheme ?

On Aug 20, 3:30*am, "Kjetil S. Matheussen" <k.s.matheus...@notam02.no>
wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008, namekuseijin wrote:
> > What you're asking is for an fully featured IDE complete with Form
> > Designer with data-aware widgets, report generators, module browsers,
> > semantic auto-complete, refactoring tools, integrated debugger and one-
> > click compile-build-run cycle? *Not really.

>
> Actually, there is one. It's a commercial scheme-like language,
> for windows only I think. But I can't remember it's name.


Please try to recall the name, I am very interested
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Old 08-21-2008, 02:49 AM
gnuist006@gmail.com
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Default Re: Delphi equivalent in Scheme ?

On Aug 20, 3:23*pm, Rob Kennedy <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> gnuist...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Is there aDelphiequivalent in the C world or Scheme/LISP world ?

>
> C++ Builder?
>
> > Recently,Delphiis in resurgence. In Russia people are using like
> > crazy. For example, Bolega has written a free image processing
> > program
> > scankromsator indelphibecause its easy to write a gui. In arabia
> > people are using it also.

>
> > Alsodelphi, I hearddelphiallows visual programming anddelphi
> > programs run on:

>
> > linux
> > win2k
> > winxp
> > vista

>
> Delphiprograms might run under Wine or Mono, but that is not the same
> as saying they run on Linux.Delphiproduces Windows programs exclusively.
>
> > I heard that its a lot easier than MFC, and C# and so on.

>
> > The only think I worried is the PASCALISH syntax.

>
> What worries you about that? Maybe we can alleviate those worries, and
> then you won't have to hunt for something else that has all the other
> features you like inDelphi.
>


Rob, very kind of you to say this. The way my brain works is that I
would
like a side by side exhaustive comparison of C/C++ and pascal/
objective-pascal
to fix the ideas in my mind. Its like teaching old people new tricks.

> > Can any of you tell
> > me if there is an alternative in C world and the pros and cons
> > because I am used to C syntax.

>
> Spell your braces as "begin" and "end," put your function and variable
> types after the names, declare your variables before all the code in a
> subroutine, and don't use the preprocessor, and you've nearly learned
> the differences between C andDelphisyntax.


I think this is a good start. I would like it to be continued a little
more
to see the forms and examples to make sure I dont make any errors in
telling
the computer the instructions.

Brgds
Gnuist
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Old 08-21-2008, 07:04 AM
Hans-Peter Diettrich
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Default Re: Delphi equivalent in Scheme ?

gnuist006@gmail.com schrieb:

> Rob, very kind of you to say this. The way my brain works is that I
> would
> like a side by side exhaustive comparison of C/C++ and pascal/
> objective-pascal
> to fix the ideas in my mind. Its like teaching old people new tricks.


Have a look at my ToPas project <http://sourceforge.net/projects/topas/>
that is an attempt to translate C code into Delphi.

DoDi
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Old 08-21-2008, 11:41 AM
leppie
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Default Re: Delphi equivalent in Scheme ?

On Aug 21, 8:45*am, gnuist...@gmail.com wrote:

> Please try to recall the name, I am very interested


http://www.jazzscheme.org/ maybe?

Cheers

leppie

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Old 08-21-2008, 01:04 PM
Kjetil S. Matheussen
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Default Re: Delphi equivalent in Scheme ?

On Thu, 21 Aug 2008, leppie wrote:

> On Aug 21, 8:45*am, gnuist...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Please try to recall the name, I am very interested

>
> http://www.jazzscheme.org/ maybe?


Yes, that's probably the one.
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Old 08-22-2008, 03:26 AM
namekuseijin
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Default Re: Delphi equivalent in Scheme ?

On 21 ago, 08:04, Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettri...@aol.com> wrote:
> gnuist...@gmail.com schrieb:
>
> > Rob, very kind of you to say this. The way my brain works is that I
> > would
> > like a side by side exhaustive comparison of C/C++ and pascal/
> > objective-pascal
> > to fix the ideas in my mind. Its like teaching old people new tricks.

>
> Have a look at my ToPas project <http://sourceforge.net/projects/topas/>
> that is an attempt to translate C code into Delphi.


Delphi is just an IDE. It works out-of-the-box with Objective Pascal
and C++.
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