Sendmail queue jumping - SendMail

On 2 Haziran, 00:05, laventmouportera <laventnouport...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to learn whether there is any legal or semi-legal way to
> queue jumping? Another means when I send my email it will just bypass
> other emails in receiving SMTP server's queue and be the first.
>
> Thanks
> Lavent

Just an additional info to my previous message. I am NOT spamming. I
only need to send one and only one email. You can reply me by email
too. I will reward person who gives me a successfull answer for my
question. so better reply me by email.

Lavent

On 6/1/2007 4:05 PM, laventmouportera wrote:
> I would like to learn whether there is any legal or semi-legal way to
> queue jumping? Another means when I send my email it will just bypass
> other emails in receiving SMTP server's queue and be the first.

If I recall correctly message priorities are an inverse number, i.e. the
lower the priority score is for a message the higher priority it has in
the mail queue.

Sendmail message queue priority values are inverse, meaning that the
lower the priority value, the sooner the message will be processed. So,
you want the lowest queue priority you can get to have your message
processed as soon as possible.

Possible things that effect the queue priority include:
- Number of envelope recipients (fewer is better)
- "Precedence:" header value
- Message size (smaller is better)
- Number of delivery attempts (fewer is better)

The first three are things that you have control over. The fourth is
not any thing that you really have control over (while sending). The
number of delivery attempts increases the priority value thus lowering
the priority of a message.

For more information, see the "Queue Priority" section of
"http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/doc8.12/op-sh-4.html".

Something else you may be interested in is the "Deliver By" SMTP
extension. This will not really help you "queue jump" as you refer to
it, but it my help in making sure that your message either successfully
is delivered to the receiving system or relayed to a system on its way
that does not support the "Deliver By" SMTP extension. "Deliver By"
would allow you to be sure that your message was delivered in a timely
manner OR that a DSN will be sent to you indicating that delivery by the
time specified was not possible (for what ever reason).

Something else you may want to consider, though possibly not exactly
appropriate is the SMTP "ETRN" command. "ETRN" is a way to connect to a
server and request it to initiate queue processing for the domain name
passed as a parameter. So, if you have reason to suspect that a message
is in a mail queue on a server and it supports the SMTP "ETRN" command,
you can connect to it and request that it process the queue for the
requested domain (/ recipient?) out of normal queue cycle.

I do NOT think that mass use of the "ETRN" command will be received very
well at all, though if you have a valid *LIMITED* use as you say, this
may be a viable option.



Grant. . . .

In article <1180734966.715781.3890@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
laventmouportera <laventnouportera@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On 2 Haziran, 00:05, laventmouportera <laventnouport...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would like to learn whether there is any legal or semi-legal way to
> > queue jumping? Another means when I send my email it will just bypass
> > other emails in receiving SMTP server's queue and be the first.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Lavent
>
> Just an additional info to my previous message. I am NOT spamming.

Perhaps not, but you are looking for a tactic that is fundamentally
unethical.

>I
> only need to send one and only one email. You can reply me by email
> too. I will reward person who gives me a successfull answer for my
> question. so better reply me by email.

It would be quite fitting for someone to tell you about such a trick and
for you to pay them for it, but I don't think anyone with any sense
should trust you to pay them.

There is no way to make a piece of email push to the front of the queue
on any and all Sendmail systems (much less other MTA's) most simply
because queueing strategy can be very different on different hosts, and
in many cases there is no serialized queue that is in the path of most
mail: if the mail is deliverable immediately it is delivered immediately
in parallel with all the other incoming mail. The only time mail on a
high-performance mail system gets in line behind other mail is when some
external problem makes delivery temporarily impossible.

In short: whatever the ethical issues, what you are asking for isn't
even meaningful in most cases, much less possible.

--
Now where did I hide that website...

laventmouportera <laventnouportera@hotmail.com> writes:
> I would like to learn whether there is any legal or semi-legal way to
> queue jumping? Another means when I send my email it will just bypass
> other emails in receiving SMTP server's queue and be the first.

IMHO in most cases (90%+) receiving sendmail delivers/relays "at once".

If the message is queened by sendmail for later processing then it may
help to make the message *short* (a few hundredth bytes of body and only
required/expected headers).

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It's always sad when the fleas leave, because that means your dog is dead.
-- Wesley T. Williams

On 2 Haziran, 17:45, Bill Cole <b...@scconsult.com> wrote:
> In article <1180734966.715781.3...@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
>
> laventmouportera <laventnouport...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On 2 Haziran, 00:05, laventmouportera <laventnouport...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi,
>
> > > I would like to learn whether there is any legal or semi-legal way to
> > > queue jumping? Another means when I send my email it will just bypass
> > > other emails in receiving SMTP server's queue and be the first.
>
> > > Thanks
> > > Lavent
>
> > Just an additional info to my previous message. I am NOT spamming.
>
> Perhaps not, but you are looking for a tactic that is fundamentally
> unethical.
>

How only one email could be spam? My email has to be the first email
when got a trigger for something that I can not tell here publicly.


> >I
> > only need to send one and only one email. You can reply me by email
> > too. I will reward person who gives me a successfull answer for my
> > question. so better reply me by email.
> > It would be quite fitting for someone to tell you about such a trick and
> for you to pay them for it, but I don't think anyone with any sense
> should trust you to pay them.
>

If someone can tell me to how to do queue jumping and his idea works I
am going to give him US$1,000. Don't look what some smart asses who
only thinks email could be either spam or spam says.



> There is no way to make a piece of email push to the front of the queue
> on any and all Sendmail systems (much less other MTA's) most simply
> because queueing strategy can be very different on different hosts, and
> in many cases there is no serialized queue that is in the path of most
> mail: if the mail is deliverable immediately it is delivered immediately
> in parallel with all the other incoming mail. The only time mail on a
> high-performance mail system gets in line behind other mail is when some
> external problem makes delivery temporarily impossible.
>

You are so mediocre that you only think within boundries.

Only email reply please!

In article <1180819084.450067.283880@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
laventmouportera <laventnouportera@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On 2 Haziran, 17:45, Bill Cole <b...@scconsult.com> wrote:
> > In article <1180734966.715781.3...@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > laventmouportera <laventnouport...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 2 Haziran, 00:05, laventmouportera <laventnouport...@hotmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> >
> > > > I would like to learn whether there is any legal or semi-legal way to
> > > > queue jumping? Another means when I send my email it will just bypass
> > > > other emails in receiving SMTP server's queue and be the first.
> >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Lavent
> >
> > > Just an additional info to my previous message. I am NOT spamming.
> >
> > Perhaps not, but you are looking for a tactic that is fundamentally
> > unethical.
> >
>
> How only one email could be spam?

I did not say it would be.


>My email has to be the first email
> when got a trigger for something that I can not tell here publicly.

On a machine you control the queueing for, that would be possible if you
actually had a queue, which is pretty rare on reasonably-configured
modern Sendmail machines behaving normally.

On someone else's machine, it's not something you have any right to
attempt.

It is no surprise that you are not willing to explain why you want to do
this.


> > >I
> > > only need to send one and only one email. You can reply me by email
> > > too. I will reward person who gives me a successfull answer for my
> > > question. so better reply me by email.
> > > It would be quite fitting for someone to tell you about such a trick and
> > for you to pay them for it, but I don't think anyone with any sense
> > should trust you to pay them.
> >
>
> If someone can tell me to how to do queue jumping and his idea works I
> am going to give him US$1,000. Don't look what some smart asses who
> only thinks email could be either spam or spam says.

You don't read very well, do you?

--
Now where did I hide that website...

Bill I sent you an email and it bounced back. Can you email me at
laventnouportera@hotmail.com

I will explain you why I need to keep it private.

Thanks

On Jun 2, 5:20 pm, laventmouportera <laventnouport...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Only email reply please!

You know, I wasnt going to spill the beans, but there is a somewhat
new, very secret (not anymore however!) method to send email that will
get processed and delivered FIRST by all mail systems released within
the past couple years.

There is an experimental ieee draft standard (I cant give you any
links, its secret) that specifies the following email header

X-Priority-Delivery:

This header can have one of three values.

Immediately
TenMinutesAgo
AlreadyDone

These values cause the message to be treated as can be expected.

Like I said, I wasnt going to spill the beans, but your persistence
won me over. However, fair is fair, and I must share the knowledge
with all equally.

As such, while I would not refuse to accept your payment should you so
wish to make one to me, I will not demand one of you.

Good Luck!