Tcl/Tk on Rails - TCL

This is a discussion on Tcl/Tk on Rails - TCL ; On May 16, 7:42 am, marc spitzer <ms4...{}sdf.lonestar.org> wrote: > On 2007-05-15, Robert Hicks <sigz...{}> wrote: > > > > > I know and I think that the Tcl community should have "supported" it > > somehow. There is > ...

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Tcl/Tk on Rails

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    On May 16, 7:42 am, marc spitzer <ms4...{}sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
    > On 2007-05-15, Robert Hicks <sigz...{}> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    > > I know and I think that the Tcl community should have "supported" it
    > > somehow. There is
    > > a difference though. You wouldn't have to know "C" to hack on "Tcl on
    > > Rails" where that
    > > was something you had to have or had to learn to contribute to Rivet.
    > > Not throwing excuses
    > > or anything out as I wasn't around in Rivet's hey day.

    >
    > one thing, from what little I know about rails, 37signals paid for it.
    > They developed it as a tool to allow them to bang out websites quick
    > and then opensourced it for their own reasons. This is different from
    > people working on a project after work, even if it does the same thing.
    >


    While that is true...I would not consider it a "barrier". It would
    just take
    more time.

    Robert


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    Robert Hicks wrote:
    > While that is true...I would not consider it a "barrier". It would
    > just take more time.


    I'd go further and say that without a clear use case (like "banging
    out basic websites for money") then the effort will likely fail to get
    far enough to get traction. It is a sad fact that the hardest stage
    for any Open Source project is getting it to the stage when there's a
    band-wagon for others to jump on; lots of stuff just never gets there.

    Pick that initial target and focus on hitting it. Make it trivial to
    "bang out basic websites" and you'll find that the steps after that
    become easier.

    Donal.


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    On 2007-05-29, Donal K. Fellows <donal.k.fellows{}man.ac.uk> wrote:
    >
    > I'd go further and say that without a clear use case (like "banging
    > out basic websites for money") then the effort will likely fail to get
    > far enough to get traction. It is a sad fact that the hardest stage
    > for any Open Source project is getting it to the stage when there's a
    > band-wagon for others to jump on; lots of stuff just never gets there.
    >
    > Pick that initial target and focus on hitting it. Make it trivial to
    > "bang out basic websites" and you'll find that the steps after that
    > become easier.
    >
    > Donal.
    >


    The funny thing is that 37signals says the same thing in their book:
    http://gettingreal.37signals.com/toc.php

    It's not a particularly deep book, but I am not a particularly great
    programmer. So it worked out in the end.

    marc

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