Espionage - Undetectable with new cryptology idea

This is a discussion on Espionage - Undetectable with new cryptology idea within the Theory forums in Theory and Concepts category; My name is Markis Gardner and I currently live in China. 3 years ago I moved to China due to a terrible tragedy in my life. At that time I was studying under a marvelous professor, Dr. Pan at Georgia State University. I had high hopes to finally get a PhD (I failed to get a PhD in Mathematics at the University of Kentucky due to an extreme memory disorder I have) but thanks to Dr. Pan he said as long as I could research (I can definitely do that) and publish papers (I am trying to do that) he ...

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Old 08-22-2008, 05:01 AM
spaceman
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Default Espionage - Undetectable with new cryptology idea

My name is Markis Gardner and I currently live in China. 3 years ago
I moved to China due to a terrible tragedy in my life. At that time I
was studying under a marvelous professor, Dr. Pan at Georgia State
University. I had high hopes to finally get a PhD (I failed to get a
PhD in Mathematics at the University of Kentucky due to an extreme
memory disorder I have) but thanks to Dr. Pan he said as long as I
could research (I can definitely do that) and publish papers (I am
trying to do that) he saw no reason why I could not get a PhD in
Computer Science. Unfortunately I was a few classes away from a
Masters in Computer Science (I was going part-time to pay the bills)
when I left to go live in China. Unfortunately I do not have the
money needed to continue my Masters and hopefully PhD in Computer
Science - out-of-state tuition is beyond my means. But, I never
wanted to give up my dream of publishing papers. I helped another
professor (who no longer works there) publish one paper and I have
been reading LOTS of papers trying to get ideas on what to write a
paper on. Since I do not work with a professor now, I have to come up
with topics on my own. Finally I came upon an idea after reading a
paper that used my knowledge of Math, Computers and a simple idea from
Chemistry (believe it or not) that gave me a brilliant but an also
frightening idea if it was used the wrong way.

I have always been a fan of the television series "Pretender", a guy,
Jerod, who can become anyone and he finds out his ideas (simulations)
are being used the wrong way. Unfortunately for me, my idea really
only has one purpose, espionage. Why else would anyone want to hide a
message or picture inside of another picture. My idea really would
make the espionage undetectable. I have read many other ideas about
hiding messages but nothing to the effect that I thought up. I was
hoping to publish these 2 papers (one talking about hiding messages
and the other about hiding pictures) and get enough recognition that I
might be able to finish my Master's and PhD, however, I am afraid that
with my idea it would make espionage child's play. I don't want to do
anything that would harm national security.

So, what would you do if you were in my shoes? If you knew 100% that
your "idea" would make it impossible for even the best computers and
cryptographers to spot this "new" espionage. I want to publish and
get recognition but I also don't want to cause America or any other
country harm. I really am looking for advice here as I do not know
how to proceed. Since I am writing these papers on my own, it will
take a long time for me to write, since I work and need to polish my
English, (wish I was still in the University and get help) so I am
hoping to get some guidance from you all. Even if I don't publish
these due to National Security at least I will gain the "experience"
necessary in writing papers on my own. That in itself will be worth
the time it will take for me to write these 2 papers.

Of course, people might think well, if you have an idea that would
hide the espionage then they could discover it using advanced
computers. That is where the idea from Chemistry comes in (I don't
want to say what that idea is, as it is the heart of this idea) but it
would completely hide the espionage.

Thanks,

Markis
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Old 08-22-2008, 11:39 AM
cplxphil@gmail.com
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Default Re: Espionage - Undetectable with new cryptology idea

On Aug 22, 5:01 am, spaceman <educationandm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My name is Markis Gardner and I currently live in China. 3 years ago
> I moved to China due to a terrible tragedy in my life. At that time I
> was studying under a marvelous professor, Dr. Pan at Georgia State
> University. I had high hopes to finally get a PhD (I failed to get a
> PhD in Mathematics at the University of Kentucky due to an extreme
> memory disorder I have) but thanks to Dr. Pan he said as long as I
> could research (I can definitely do that) and publish papers (I am
> trying to do that) he saw no reason why I could not get a PhD in
> Computer Science. Unfortunately I was a few classes away from a
> Masters in Computer Science (I was going part-time to pay the bills)
> when I left to go live in China. Unfortunately I do not have the
> money needed to continue my Masters and hopefully PhD in Computer
> Science - out-of-state tuition is beyond my means. But, I never
> wanted to give up my dream of publishing papers. I helped another
> professor (who no longer works there) publish one paper and I have
> been reading LOTS of papers trying to get ideas on what to write a
> paper on. Since I do not work with a professor now, I have to come up
> with topics on my own. Finally I came upon an idea after reading a
> paper that used my knowledge of Math, Computers and a simple idea from
> Chemistry (believe it or not) that gave me a brilliant but an also
> frightening idea if it was used the wrong way.
>
> I have always been a fan of the television series "Pretender", a guy,
> Jerod, who can become anyone and he finds out his ideas (simulations)
> are being used the wrong way. Unfortunately for me, my idea really
> only has one purpose, espionage. Why else would anyone want to hide a
> message or picture inside of another picture. My idea really would
> make the espionage undetectable. I have read many other ideas about
> hiding messages but nothing to the effect that I thought up. I was
> hoping to publish these 2 papers (one talking about hiding messages
> and the other about hiding pictures) and get enough recognition that I
> might be able to finish my Master's and PhD, however, I am afraid that
> with my idea it would make espionage child's play. I don't want to do
> anything that would harm national security.
>
> So, what would you do if you were in my shoes? If you knew 100% that
> your "idea" would make it impossible for even the best computers and
> cryptographers to spot this "new" espionage. I want to publish and
> get recognition but I also don't want to cause America or any other
> country harm. I really am looking for advice here as I do not know
> how to proceed. Since I am writing these papers on my own, it will
> take a long time for me to write, since I work and need to polish my
> English, (wish I was still in the University and get help) so I am
> hoping to get some guidance from you all. Even if I don't publish
> these due to National Security at least I will gain the "experience"
> necessary in writing papers on my own. That in itself will be worth
> the time it will take for me to write these 2 papers.
>
> Of course, people might think well, if you have an idea that would
> hide the espionage then they could discover it using advanced
> computers. That is where the idea from Chemistry comes in (I don't
> want to say what that idea is, as it is the heart of this idea) but it
> would completely hide the espionage.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Markis


Have you done any research on steganography, or read up on it? I
believe it's currently thought that steganography (which includes
hiding pictures or messages in pictures, as you say) is already being
used by terrorists (and probably others) trying to escape detection by
the government. It sounds like your idea, whatever it is, is some
sort of steganographic technique. It may have already been
discovered? There are books on amazon.com about the subject, which I
am admittedly not an expert on.

Also, I'm doubtful as to how you could make sure that your idea is
100% secure. Organizations like the NSA are supposed to be fantastic
at breaching the security of pretty much anyone. I read an article
recently on the NSA's red team, but I can't find it offhand.

Finally, here's a more or less theoretical concern: if you have some
sort of technique for disguising a message so well that no one can
detect it, how will your intended recipient detect it? It all boils
down to the idea of private keys; if your message is so well-hidden
that no one can find it without knowing some algorithm for extracting
the message, that's great; but then how do you transmit that algorithm
to your recipient without THAT being detected? I tend to suspect that
there aren't really any major breakthroughs to be made in the field of
steganography, since it all simply boils down to finding a way to
transmit a decryption algorithm securely.

I'm certainly not an expert on cryptography or steganography though;
these are just my thoughts.

-Phil
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Old 08-22-2008, 11:04 PM
marika
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Default Re: Espionage - Undetectable with new cryptology idea

On Aug 22, 5:01*am, spaceman <educationandm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My name is Markis Gardner and I currently live in China. *3 years ago
> I moved to China due to a terrible tragedy in my life. *


you stopped liking the Oakland Raiders?san francisco 49ers?

>At that time I
> was studying under a marvelous professor, Dr. Pan at Georgia State
> University. *I had high hopes to finally get a PhD (I failed to get a
> PhD in Mathematics at the University of Kentucky due to an extreme
> memory disorder I have) but thanks to Dr. Pan he said as long as I
> could research (I candefinitelydo that) and publish papers (I am
> trying to do that) he saw no reason why I could not get a PhD in
> Computer Science. *



I can't really tell what prompted it.
but I can tell you lack credibility because math requires no memory at
all

it requires only reasoning ability


>Unfortunately I was a few classes away from a
> Masters in Computer Science (I was going part-time to pay the bills)
> when Ileftto go live in China. *Unfortunately I do not have the
> money needed to continue my Masters and hopefully PhD in Computer
> Science - out-of-state tuition is beyond my means. *



you mean out of country. you live in china. no one in the us will
subsidize your tuition except a private scholarship


>But, I never
> wanted to give up my dream of publishing papers. I helped another
> professor (who no longer works there) publish one paper and I have
> been reading LOTS of papers trying to get ideas on what to write a
> paper on. *Since I do not work with a professor now, I have to come up
> with topics on my own. *Finally I came upon an idea after reading a
> paper that used my knowledge of Math, Computers and a simple idea from
> Chemistry (believe it or not) that gave me a brilliant but an also
> frightening idea if it was used the wrong way.
>
> I have always been a fan of the television series "Pretender", a guy,
> Jerod, who can become anyone and he finds out his ideas (simulations)
> are being used the wrong way. *Unfortunately for me, my idea really
> only has one purpose, espionage. *Why else would anyone want to hide a
> message or picture inside of another picture.



o please

shyness

>*My idea really would
> make the espionage undetectable. *I have read many other ideas about
> hiding messages but nothing to the effect that I thought up. *I was
> hoping to publish these 2 papers (one talking about hiding messages
> and the other about hiding pictures) and get enough recognition that I
> might be able to finish my Master's and PhD, however, I am afraid that
> with my idea it would make espionage child's play. *I don't want to do
> anything that would harm national security.


WHOSE national security

o please

like as if you have even told us where you are a citizen of

you only told us where you go to school


and with a name like spaceman!!!!!

normal team loyalty and insults against other teams, I get,


>
> So, what would you do if you were in my shoes?


id' stop trolling here, mr contractor of nsa

I don't get why the niners spend huge amounts of time talking about
the doll fins in terms of such intense hate

solve that riddle then we will talk

>*If you knew 100% that
> your "idea" would make it impossible for even the best computers and
> cryptographers to spot this "new" espionage.



was the parcells on the niners

>*I want to publish and
> get recognition but I also don't want to cause America or any other
> country harm.



really? what's your citizenship mr spaceman

have you seen the ads for this show this new show,Flashpoint?

>*I really am looking for advice here as I do not know
> how to proceed. *Since I am writing these papers on my own, it will
> take a long time for me to write, since I work and need to polish my
> English, (wish I was still in the University and get help) so I am
> hoping to get some guidance from you all. *


o see so you ARE NOT a us citizen and you don't really give a crap
about US security

Enrico Colantoni is in this new show Flashpoint, I've always thought
he was a great actor


>Even if I don't publish
> these due to National Security at least I will gain the "experience"
> necessary in writing papers on my own. *


you got into college into a phd program but have no experience in
publishing papers.

o please


>That in itself will be worth
> the time it will take for me to write these 2 papers.
>
> Of course, people might think well, if you have an idea that would
> hide the espionage then they could discover it using advanced
> computers. *That is where the idea from Chemistry comes in (I don't
> want to say what that idea is, as it is the heart of this idea) but it
> would completely hide the espionage.
>
>



o just go right ahead

But for some reason I could swear the ads for Flashpoint show Antonin
Scalia too

mk5000

"cmon darling
its alright to show me
you don't need to be lonely
once you start to open your heart"--ben lee, we're all in this together
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