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  1. Default Getting Open Nat with a Netscreen-5GT ADSL

    Hi,
    I am using a Netscreen-5GT ADSL to route/protect my internet
    connection and cannot seem to get the NAT config correct.

    I was previously using a Linksys WRT-54G running DD-WRT and could get
    Open NAT for xbox live no probs (either via uPnP or manual port
    forwards), but since migrating to the Netscreen, the xbox live diags
    always come back saying I have Strict NAT.

    I have forwarded the ports (UDP88 and UDP/TCP3074) using a VIP and
    have a policy in place to allow the traffic (with logging) and the
    Netscreen doesnt seem to even be hit with the packets from the
    outside. I have other services such as POP3 and BitTorrent working
    fine using the above method.

    Using MIP/DIP is not an option for me since my ISP will not assign me
    multiple public/routable IPs.

    I have tested a few random ALGs (such as SIP and portmapper) on the
    long shot thay the Xbox live protocal may work in the same way, but as
    expected nothing. I am runnnig ScreenOS 5.0.0r6.e, so I guess its
    possible that later versions have a specific ALG for this.

    Anyway - my question is, has anyone else got this working with a
    Netscreen 5 device? or am I mising something obvious?

    Thanks.


  2. Default RE: Getting Open Nat with a Netscreen-5GT ADSL

    I'm working on this issue as well - let me know if you find a fix and i will
    do the same as well. I have a 5gt adsl (wifi) as well.

    "malek.dannourah@gmail.com" wrote:

    > Hi,
    > I am using a Netscreen-5GT ADSL to route/protect my internet
    > connection and cannot seem to get the NAT config correct.
    >
    > I was previously using a Linksys WRT-54G running DD-WRT and could get
    > Open NAT for xbox live no probs (either via uPnP or manual port
    > forwards), but since migrating to the Netscreen, the xbox live diags
    > always come back saying I have Strict NAT.
    >
    > I have forwarded the ports (UDP88 and UDP/TCP3074) using a VIP and
    > have a policy in place to allow the traffic (with logging) and the
    > Netscreen doesnt seem to even be hit with the packets from the
    > outside. I have other services such as POP3 and BitTorrent working
    > fine using the above method.
    >
    > Using MIP/DIP is not an option for me since my ISP will not assign me
    > multiple public/routable IPs.
    >
    > I have tested a few random ALGs (such as SIP and portmapper) on the
    > long shot thay the Xbox live protocal may work in the same way, but as
    > expected nothing. I am runnnig ScreenOS 5.0.0r6.e, so I guess its
    > possible that later versions have a specific ALG for this.
    >
    > Anyway - my question is, has anyone else got this working with a
    > Netscreen 5 device? or am I mising something obvious?
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    >


  3. Default RE: Getting Open Nat with a Netscreen-5GT ADSL

    I'm working on this issue as well - let me know if you find a fix and i will
    do the same as well. I have a 5gt adsl (wifi) as well.

    "malek.dannourah@gmail.com" wrote:

    > Hi,
    > I am using a Netscreen-5GT ADSL to route/protect my internet
    > connection and cannot seem to get the NAT config correct.
    >
    > I was previously using a Linksys WRT-54G running DD-WRT and could get
    > Open NAT for xbox live no probs (either via uPnP or manual port
    > forwards), but since migrating to the Netscreen, the xbox live diags
    > always come back saying I have Strict NAT.
    >
    > I have forwarded the ports (UDP88 and UDP/TCP3074) using a VIP and
    > have a policy in place to allow the traffic (with logging) and the
    > Netscreen doesnt seem to even be hit with the packets from the
    > outside. I have other services such as POP3 and BitTorrent working
    > fine using the above method.
    >
    > Using MIP/DIP is not an option for me since my ISP will not assign me
    > multiple public/routable IPs.
    >
    > I have tested a few random ALGs (such as SIP and portmapper) on the
    > long shot thay the Xbox live protocal may work in the same way, but as
    > expected nothing. I am runnnig ScreenOS 5.0.0r6.e, so I guess its
    > possible that later versions have a specific ALG for this.
    >
    > Anyway - my question is, has anyone else got this working with a
    > Netscreen 5 device? or am I mising something obvious?
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    >


  4. Default Re: Getting Open Nat with a Netscreen-5GT ADSL

    On 2 Oct, 17:14, malek.dannou...@gmail.com wrote:
    > Hi,
    > I am using a Netscreen-5GT ADSL to route/protect my internet
    > connection and cannot seem to get the NAT config correct.
    >
    > I was previously using a Linksys WRT-54G running DD-WRT and could get
    > Open NAT for xbox live no probs (either via uPnP or manual port
    > forwards), but since migrating to the Netscreen, the xbox live diags
    > always come back saying I have Strict NAT.
    >
    > I have forwarded the ports (UDP88 and UDP/TCP3074) using a VIP and
    > have a policy in place to allow the traffic (with logging) and the
    > Netscreen doesnt seem to even be hit with the packets from the
    > outside. I have other services such as POP3 and BitTorrent working
    > fine using the above method.
    >
    > Using MIP/DIP is not an option for me since my ISP will not assign me
    > multiple public/routable IPs.
    >
    > I have tested a few random ALGs (such as SIP and portmapper) on the
    > long shot thay the Xbox live protocal may work in the same way, but as
    > expected nothing. I am runnnig ScreenOS 5.0.0r6.e, so I guess its
    > possible that later versions have a specific ALG for this.
    >
    > Anyway - my question is, has anyone else got this working with a
    > Netscreen 5 device? or am I mising something obvious?
    >
    > Thanks.


    I'm also trying to figure this one as well. I've managed to get it as
    far as moderate NAT, but not open. I wish I could say what it was that
    got it to moderate, as I've just told my IT department (it's a work
    VPN router) to assign the xbox's mac address to a static IP, and
    forward those ports to it.

    if anyone figures out what'll make it 'open', please let me know!

    thanks,
    chris


  5. Default Re: Getting Open Nat with a Netscreen-5GT ADSL

    On 2 Oct, 17:14, malek.dannou...@gmail.com wrote:
    > Hi,
    > I am using a Netscreen-5GT ADSL to route/protect my internet
    > connection and cannot seem to get the NAT config correct.
    >
    > I was previously using a Linksys WRT-54G running DD-WRT and could get
    > Open NAT for xbox live no probs (either via uPnP or manual port
    > forwards), but since migrating to the Netscreen, the xbox live diags
    > always come back saying I have Strict NAT.
    >
    > I have forwarded the ports (UDP88 and UDP/TCP3074) using a VIP and
    > have a policy in place to allow the traffic (with logging) and the
    > Netscreen doesnt seem to even be hit with the packets from the
    > outside. I have other services such as POP3 and BitTorrent working
    > fine using the above method.
    >
    > Using MIP/DIP is not an option for me since my ISP will not assign me
    > multiple public/routable IPs.
    >
    > I have tested a few random ALGs (such as SIP and portmapper) on the
    > long shot thay the Xbox live protocal may work in the same way, but as
    > expected nothing. I am runnnig ScreenOS 5.0.0r6.e, so I guess its
    > possible that later versions have a specific ALG for this.
    >
    > Anyway - my question is, has anyone else got this working with a
    > Netscreen 5 device? or am I mising something obvious?
    >
    > Thanks.


    I'm also trying to figure this one as well. I've managed to get it as
    far as moderate NAT, but not open. I wish I could say what it was that
    got it to moderate, as I've just told my IT department (it's a work
    VPN router) to assign the xbox's mac address to a static IP, and
    forward those ports to it.

    if anyone figures out what'll make it 'open', please let me know!

    thanks,
    chris


  6. Default Re: Getting Open Nat with a Netscreen-5GT ADSL

    Just a wild guess here, but I would be the VPN router doesn't support UPnP?
    You really need that for Open, but most of the older routers don't natively
    support it.
    --
    Chris H.
    Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
    Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
    http://forums.mobilepcworld.net
    Associate Expert
    Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone

    <chris.bransden@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:1194273149.923842.101550@o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
    > On 2 Oct, 17:14, malek.dannou...@gmail.com wrote:
    >> Hi,
    >> I am using a Netscreen-5GT ADSL to route/protect my internet
    >> connection and cannot seem to get the NAT config correct.
    >>
    >> I was previously using a Linksys WRT-54G running DD-WRT and could get
    >> Open NAT for xbox live no probs (either via uPnP or manual port
    >> forwards), but since migrating to the Netscreen, the xbox live diags
    >> always come back saying I have Strict NAT.
    >>
    >> I have forwarded the ports (UDP88 and UDP/TCP3074) using a VIP and
    >> have a policy in place to allow the traffic (with logging) and the
    >> Netscreen doesnt seem to even be hit with the packets from the
    >> outside. I have other services such as POP3 and BitTorrent working
    >> fine using the above method.
    >>
    >> Using MIP/DIP is not an option for me since my ISP will not assign me
    >> multiple public/routable IPs.
    >>
    >> I have tested a few random ALGs (such as SIP and portmapper) on the
    >> long shot thay the Xbox live protocal may work in the same way, but as
    >> expected nothing. I am runnnig ScreenOS 5.0.0r6.e, so I guess its
    >> possible that later versions have a specific ALG for this.
    >>
    >> Anyway - my question is, has anyone else got this working with a
    >> Netscreen 5 device? or am I mising something obvious?
    >>
    >> Thanks.

    >
    > I'm also trying to figure this one as well. I've managed to get it as
    > far as moderate NAT, but not open. I wish I could say what it was that
    > got it to moderate, as I've just told my IT department (it's a work
    > VPN router) to assign the xbox's mac address to a static IP, and
    > forward those ports to it.
    >
    > if anyone figures out what'll make it 'open', please let me know!
    >
    > thanks,
    > chris
    >



  7. Default Re: Getting Open Nat with a Netscreen-5GT ADSL

    Just a wild guess here, but I would be the VPN router doesn't support UPnP?
    You really need that for Open, but most of the older routers don't natively
    support it.
    --
    Chris H.
    Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
    Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
    http://forums.mobilepcworld.net
    Associate Expert
    Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone

    <chris.bransden@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:1194273149.923842.101550@o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
    > On 2 Oct, 17:14, malek.dannou...@gmail.com wrote:
    >> Hi,
    >> I am using a Netscreen-5GT ADSL to route/protect my internet
    >> connection and cannot seem to get the NAT config correct.
    >>
    >> I was previously using a Linksys WRT-54G running DD-WRT and could get
    >> Open NAT for xbox live no probs (either via uPnP or manual port
    >> forwards), but since migrating to the Netscreen, the xbox live diags
    >> always come back saying I have Strict NAT.
    >>
    >> I have forwarded the ports (UDP88 and UDP/TCP3074) using a VIP and
    >> have a policy in place to allow the traffic (with logging) and the
    >> Netscreen doesnt seem to even be hit with the packets from the
    >> outside. I have other services such as POP3 and BitTorrent working
    >> fine using the above method.
    >>
    >> Using MIP/DIP is not an option for me since my ISP will not assign me
    >> multiple public/routable IPs.
    >>
    >> I have tested a few random ALGs (such as SIP and portmapper) on the
    >> long shot thay the Xbox live protocal may work in the same way, but as
    >> expected nothing. I am runnnig ScreenOS 5.0.0r6.e, so I guess its
    >> possible that later versions have a specific ALG for this.
    >>
    >> Anyway - my question is, has anyone else got this working with a
    >> Netscreen 5 device? or am I mising something obvious?
    >>
    >> Thanks.

    >
    > I'm also trying to figure this one as well. I've managed to get it as
    > far as moderate NAT, but not open. I wish I could say what it was that
    > got it to moderate, as I've just told my IT department (it's a work
    > VPN router) to assign the xbox's mac address to a static IP, and
    > forward those ports to it.
    >
    > if anyone figures out what'll make it 'open', please let me know!
    >
    > thanks,
    > chris
    >



  8. Default Re: Getting Open Nat with a Netscreen-5GT ADSL

    Hey Chris - how did you get moderate?

    "chris.bransden@gmail.com" wrote:

    > On 2 Oct, 17:14, malek.dannou...@gmail.com wrote:
    > > Hi,
    > > I am using a Netscreen-5GT ADSL to route/protect my internet
    > > connection and cannot seem to get the NAT config correct.
    > >
    > > I was previously using a Linksys WRT-54G running DD-WRT and could get
    > > Open NAT for xbox live no probs (either via uPnP or manual port
    > > forwards), but since migrating to the Netscreen, the xbox live diags
    > > always come back saying I have Strict NAT.
    > >
    > > I have forwarded the ports (UDP88 and UDP/TCP3074) using a VIP and
    > > have a policy in place to allow the traffic (with logging) and the
    > > Netscreen doesnt seem to even be hit with the packets from the
    > > outside. I have other services such as POP3 and BitTorrent working
    > > fine using the above method.
    > >
    > > Using MIP/DIP is not an option for me since my ISP will not assign me
    > > multiple public/routable IPs.
    > >
    > > I have tested a few random ALGs (such as SIP and portmapper) on the
    > > long shot thay the Xbox live protocal may work in the same way, but as
    > > expected nothing. I am runnnig ScreenOS 5.0.0r6.e, so I guess its
    > > possible that later versions have a specific ALG for this.
    > >
    > > Anyway - my question is, has anyone else got this working with a
    > > Netscreen 5 device? or am I mising something obvious?
    > >
    > > Thanks.

    >
    > I'm also trying to figure this one as well. I've managed to get it as
    > far as moderate NAT, but not open. I wish I could say what it was that
    > got it to moderate, as I've just told my IT department (it's a work
    > VPN router) to assign the xbox's mac address to a static IP, and
    > forward those ports to it.
    >
    > if anyone figures out what'll make it 'open', please let me know!
    >
    > thanks,
    > chris
    >
    >


  9. Default Re: Getting Open Nat with a Netscreen-5GT ADSL

    Hey Chris - how did you get moderate?

    "chris.bransden@gmail.com" wrote:

    > On 2 Oct, 17:14, malek.dannou...@gmail.com wrote:
    > > Hi,
    > > I am using a Netscreen-5GT ADSL to route/protect my internet
    > > connection and cannot seem to get the NAT config correct.
    > >
    > > I was previously using a Linksys WRT-54G running DD-WRT and could get
    > > Open NAT for xbox live no probs (either via uPnP or manual port
    > > forwards), but since migrating to the Netscreen, the xbox live diags
    > > always come back saying I have Strict NAT.
    > >
    > > I have forwarded the ports (UDP88 and UDP/TCP3074) using a VIP and
    > > have a policy in place to allow the traffic (with logging) and the
    > > Netscreen doesnt seem to even be hit with the packets from the
    > > outside. I have other services such as POP3 and BitTorrent working
    > > fine using the above method.
    > >
    > > Using MIP/DIP is not an option for me since my ISP will not assign me
    > > multiple public/routable IPs.
    > >
    > > I have tested a few random ALGs (such as SIP and portmapper) on the
    > > long shot thay the Xbox live protocal may work in the same way, but as
    > > expected nothing. I am runnnig ScreenOS 5.0.0r6.e, so I guess its
    > > possible that later versions have a specific ALG for this.
    > >
    > > Anyway - my question is, has anyone else got this working with a
    > > Netscreen 5 device? or am I mising something obvious?
    > >
    > > Thanks.

    >
    > I'm also trying to figure this one as well. I've managed to get it as
    > far as moderate NAT, but not open. I wish I could say what it was that
    > got it to moderate, as I've just told my IT department (it's a work
    > VPN router) to assign the xbox's mac address to a static IP, and
    > forward those ports to it.
    >
    > if anyone figures out what'll make it 'open', please let me know!
    >
    > thanks,
    > chris
    >
    >


  10. Default Re: Getting Open Nat with a Netscreen-5GT ADSL

    I'd make sure your router supports UPnP. If it doesn't, most likely you're
    not going to get an Open Network Address Translation. Check with the
    support folks for your Internet Service Provider, if they're the ones who
    furnished the router.
    --
    Chris H.
    Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
    Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
    http://forums.mobilepcworld.net
    Associate Expert
    Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone

    "Malek" <Malek@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:8792311C-BBDF-4385-A6E3-E1344D9221B9@microsoft.com...
    > Hey Chris - how did you get moderate?
    >
    > "chris.bransden@gmail.com" wrote:
    >
    >> On 2 Oct, 17:14, malek.dannou...@gmail.com wrote:
    >> > Hi,
    >> > I am using a Netscreen-5GT ADSL to route/protect my internet
    >> > connection and cannot seem to get the NAT config correct.
    >> >
    >> > I was previously using a Linksys WRT-54G running DD-WRT and could get
    >> > Open NAT for xbox live no probs (either via uPnP or manual port
    >> > forwards), but since migrating to the Netscreen, the xbox live diags
    >> > always come back saying I have Strict NAT.
    >> >
    >> > I have forwarded the ports (UDP88 and UDP/TCP3074) using a VIP and
    >> > have a policy in place to allow the traffic (with logging) and the
    >> > Netscreen doesnt seem to even be hit with the packets from the
    >> > outside. I have other services such as POP3 and BitTorrent working
    >> > fine using the above method.
    >> >
    >> > Using MIP/DIP is not an option for me since my ISP will not assign me
    >> > multiple public/routable IPs.
    >> >
    >> > I have tested a few random ALGs (such as SIP and portmapper) on the
    >> > long shot thay the Xbox live protocal may work in the same way, but as
    >> > expected nothing. I am runnnig ScreenOS 5.0.0r6.e, so I guess its
    >> > possible that later versions have a specific ALG for this.
    >> >
    >> > Anyway - my question is, has anyone else got this working with a
    >> > Netscreen 5 device? or am I mising something obvious?
    >> >
    >> > Thanks.

    >>
    >> I'm also trying to figure this one as well. I've managed to get it as
    >> far as moderate NAT, but not open. I wish I could say what it was that
    >> got it to moderate, as I've just told my IT department (it's a work
    >> VPN router) to assign the xbox's mac address to a static IP, and
    >> forward those ports to it.
    >>
    >> if anyone figures out what'll make it 'open', please let me know!
    >>
    >> thanks,
    >> chris
    >>
    >>



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